Hello Everyone, I know we are very late in the game however, I need the community's help. As our company continues to grow and establish long term relationships and bringing additional customers onto our infrastructure, we find ourselves desperately needing to reserve a /24. I understand that IPv4 addresses are getting depleted as of 2015, can someone on here please guide us on how to best secure /24? Thank You in Advance, Terrance
Request it. We just got a /22 direct from ARIN yesterday. There is currently a supply of IPs available from ARIN. Otherwise your option is to buy at auction at a high expense.
On Dec 28, 2019, at 8:33 AM, Terrance Devor <ter.devor@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello Everyone,
I know we are very late in the game however, I need the community's help. As our company continues to grow and establish long term relationships and bringing additional customers onto our infrastructure, we find ourselves desperately needing to reserve a /24.
I understand that IPv4 addresses are getting depleted as of 2015, can someone on here please guide us on how to best secure /24?
Thank You in Advance,
Terrance
Thank You Matt! Can we please connect directly off the list to limit the noise? I would really appreciate a setup-by-step. Best, Terrance On Sat, Dec 28, 2019 at 9:29 AM Matt Hoppes < mattlists@rivervalleyinternet.net> wrote:
Request it. We just got a /22 direct from ARIN yesterday.
There is currently a supply of IPs available from ARIN.
Otherwise your option is to buy at auction at a high expense.
On Dec 28, 2019, at 8:33 AM, Terrance Devor <ter.devor@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello Everyone,
I know we are very late in the game however, I need the community's help. As our company continues to grow and establish long term relationships and bringing additional customers onto our infrastructure, we find ourselves desperately needing to reserve a /24.
I understand that IPv4 addresses are getting depleted as of 2015, can someone on here please guide us on how to best secure /24?
Thank You in Advance,
Terrance
Go to ARIN and request the block. We just received ours after getting on their waiting list. Took about 6 months, though. On Sat, Dec 28, 2019 at 9:57 AM Terrance Devor <ter.devor@gmail.com> wrote:
Thank You Matt! Can we please connect directly off the list to limit the noise? I would really appreciate a setup-by-step.
Best,
Terrance
On Sat, Dec 28, 2019 at 9:29 AM Matt Hoppes < mattlists@rivervalleyinternet.net> wrote:
Request it. We just got a /22 direct from ARIN yesterday.
There is currently a supply of IPs available from ARIN.
Otherwise your option is to buy at auction at a high expense.
On Dec 28, 2019, at 8:33 AM, Terrance Devor <ter.devor@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello Everyone,
I know we are very late in the game however, I need the community's help. As our company continues to grow and establish long term relationships and bringing additional customers onto our infrastructure, we find ourselves desperately needing to reserve a /24.
I understand that IPv4 addresses are getting depleted as of 2015, can someone on here please guide us on how to best secure /24?
Thank You in Advance,
Terrance
Thank You Jorge! What is important for us is not to overpay.... That's why auctions are really a last resort. Can someone please walk me through this with a few links? This is my first time going through this process. On Sat, Dec 28, 2019 at 10:04 AM Jorge Santiago <jscnetworks@gmail.com> wrote:
Go to ARIN and request the block. We just received ours after getting on their waiting list. Took about 6 months, though.
On Sat, Dec 28, 2019 at 9:57 AM Terrance Devor <ter.devor@gmail.com> wrote:
Thank You Matt! Can we please connect directly off the list to limit the noise? I would really appreciate a setup-by-step.
Best,
Terrance
On Sat, Dec 28, 2019 at 9:29 AM Matt Hoppes < mattlists@rivervalleyinternet.net> wrote:
Request it. We just got a /22 direct from ARIN yesterday.
There is currently a supply of IPs available from ARIN.
Otherwise your option is to buy at auction at a high expense.
On Dec 28, 2019, at 8:33 AM, Terrance Devor <ter.devor@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello Everyone,
I know we are very late in the game however, I need the community's help. As our company continues to grow and establish long term relationships and bringing additional customers onto our infrastructure, we find ourselves desperately needing to reserve a /24.
I understand that IPv4 addresses are getting depleted as of 2015, can someone on here please guide us on how to best secure /24?
Thank You in Advance,
Terrance
On 12/28/19 7:12 AM, Terrance Devor wrote:
Thank You Jorge! What is important for us is not to overpay.... That's why auctions are really a last resort. Can someone please walk me through this with a few links? This is my first time going through this process.
Ask ARIN. They will help you.
In the most polite manner possible, RTFM. ARIN has all the info on their website on how to request resources. It is not difficult. I've never had to call them before. On Sat, Dec 28, 2019, 9:53 AM Seth Mattinen <sethm@rollernet.us> wrote:
On 12/28/19 7:12 AM, Terrance Devor wrote:
Thank You Jorge! What is important for us is not to overpay.... That's why auctions are really a last resort. Can someone please walk me through this with a few links? This is my first time going through this process.
Ask ARIN. They will help you.
They have changed their policies from what I can tell. It was easier to get IPs when there were none and you were buying from an auction but now that they have them they want you to fill out a bunch of info and recertify everything. Erich Kaiser The Fusion Network erich@gotfusion.net Office: 815-570-3101 On Sat, Dec 28, 2019 at 11:23 AM Darin Steffl <darin.steffl@mnwifi.com> wrote:
In the most polite manner possible, RTFM.
ARIN has all the info on their website on how to request resources. It is not difficult. I've never had to call them before.
On Sat, Dec 28, 2019, 9:53 AM Seth Mattinen <sethm@rollernet.us> wrote:
On 12/28/19 7:12 AM, Terrance Devor wrote:
Thank You Jorge! What is important for us is not to overpay.... That's why auctions are really a last resort. Can someone please walk me through this with a few links? This is my first time going through this process.
Ask ARIN. They will help you.
This is not a change. You've always had to justify in order to legitimately transfer even from an auction. Get Outlook for Android<https://aka.ms/ghei36> ________________________________ From: NANOG <nanog-bounces@nanog.org> on behalf of Kaiser, Erich <erich@gotfusion.net> Sent: Saturday, December 28, 2019 1:13:53 PM To: Darin Steffl <darin.steffl@mnwifi.com> Cc: North American Network Operators' Group <nanog@nanog.org> Subject: Re: Requesting /24 from ARIN They have changed their policies from what I can tell. It was easier to get IPs when there were none and you were buying from an auction but now that they have them they want you to fill out a bunch of info and recertify everything. Erich Kaiser The Fusion Network erich@gotfusion.net<mailto:erich@gotfusion.net> Office: 815-570-3101 [https://docs.google.com/uc?export=download&id=0B12mNmVrr3-PVWFkTjVnNnh2czg&revid=0B12mNmVrr3-PVlJBWlZ1Z3kyeS80RUJjSWZWaFBUa0NCV1lBPQ] On Sat, Dec 28, 2019 at 11:23 AM Darin Steffl <darin.steffl@mnwifi.com<mailto:darin.steffl@mnwifi.com>> wrote: In the most polite manner possible, RTFM. ARIN has all the info on their website on how to request resources. It is not difficult. I've never had to call them before. On Sat, Dec 28, 2019, 9:53 AM Seth Mattinen <sethm@rollernet.us<mailto:sethm@rollernet.us>> wrote: On 12/28/19 7:12 AM, Terrance Devor wrote:
Thank You Jorge! What is important for us is not to overpay.... That's why auctions are really a last resort. Can someone please walk me through this with a few links? This is my first time going through this process.
Ask ARIN. They will help you.
Yes been doing it for years but seems to be more in depth now from latest documentation I received, it has never been an easy process IMO. On Sat, Dec 28, 2019 at 12:22 PM Pennington, Scott < scott.pennington@cinbell.com> wrote:
This is not a change. You've always had to justify in order to legitimately transfer even from an auction.
Get Outlook for Android <https://aka.ms/ghei36>
------------------------------ *From:* NANOG <nanog-bounces@nanog.org> on behalf of Kaiser, Erich < erich@gotfusion.net> *Sent:* Saturday, December 28, 2019 1:13:53 PM *To:* Darin Steffl <darin.steffl@mnwifi.com> *Cc:* North American Network Operators' Group <nanog@nanog.org> *Subject:* Re: Requesting /24 from ARIN
They have changed their policies from what I can tell. It was easier to get IPs when there were none and you were buying from an auction but now that they have them they want you to fill out a bunch of info and recertify everything.
Erich Kaiser The Fusion Network erich@gotfusion.net Office: 815-570-3101
On Sat, Dec 28, 2019 at 11:23 AM Darin Steffl <darin.steffl@mnwifi.com> wrote:
In the most polite manner possible, RTFM.
ARIN has all the info on their website on how to request resources. It is not difficult. I've never had to call them before.
On Sat, Dec 28, 2019, 9:53 AM Seth Mattinen <sethm@rollernet.us> wrote:
On 12/28/19 7:12 AM, Terrance Devor wrote:
Thank You Jorge! What is important for us is not to overpay.... That's why auctions are really a last resort. Can someone please walk me through this with a few links? This is my first time going through this process.
Ask ARIN. They will help you.
I feel it's the same now as it was 5 years ago. Same spreadsheet and justification as years ago. I just got a /22 yesterday and it was no different from an ARIN allocation to a purchase and transfer. On Sat, Dec 28, 2019, 12:37 PM Kaiser, Erich <erich@gotfusion.net> wrote:
Yes been doing it for years but seems to be more in depth now from latest documentation I received, it has never been an easy process IMO.
On Sat, Dec 28, 2019 at 12:22 PM Pennington, Scott < scott.pennington@cinbell.com> wrote:
This is not a change. You've always had to justify in order to legitimately transfer even from an auction.
Get Outlook for Android <https://aka.ms/ghei36>
------------------------------ *From:* NANOG <nanog-bounces@nanog.org> on behalf of Kaiser, Erich < erich@gotfusion.net> *Sent:* Saturday, December 28, 2019 1:13:53 PM *To:* Darin Steffl <darin.steffl@mnwifi.com> *Cc:* North American Network Operators' Group <nanog@nanog.org> *Subject:* Re: Requesting /24 from ARIN
They have changed their policies from what I can tell. It was easier to get IPs when there were none and you were buying from an auction but now that they have them they want you to fill out a bunch of info and recertify everything.
Erich Kaiser The Fusion Network erich@gotfusion.net Office: 815-570-3101
On Sat, Dec 28, 2019 at 11:23 AM Darin Steffl <darin.steffl@mnwifi.com> wrote:
In the most polite manner possible, RTFM.
ARIN has all the info on their website on how to request resources. It is not difficult. I've never had to call them before.
On Sat, Dec 28, 2019, 9:53 AM Seth Mattinen <sethm@rollernet.us> wrote:
On 12/28/19 7:12 AM, Terrance Devor wrote:
Thank You Jorge! What is important for us is not to overpay.... That's why auctions are really a last resort. Can someone please walk me through this with a few links? This is my first time going through this process.
Ask ARIN. They will help you.
I think I am feeling sour about having to do the entire process all over again LOL. Just looked at doc and it is very similar to old required info. On Sat, Dec 28, 2019 at 12:37 PM Kaiser, Erich <erich@gotfusion.net> wrote:
Yes been doing it for years but seems to be more in depth now from latest documentation I received, it has never been an easy process IMO.
On Sat, Dec 28, 2019 at 12:22 PM Pennington, Scott < scott.pennington@cinbell.com> wrote:
This is not a change. You've always had to justify in order to legitimately transfer even from an auction.
Get Outlook for Android <https://aka.ms/ghei36>
------------------------------ *From:* NANOG <nanog-bounces@nanog.org> on behalf of Kaiser, Erich < erich@gotfusion.net> *Sent:* Saturday, December 28, 2019 1:13:53 PM *To:* Darin Steffl <darin.steffl@mnwifi.com> *Cc:* North American Network Operators' Group <nanog@nanog.org> *Subject:* Re: Requesting /24 from ARIN
They have changed their policies from what I can tell. It was easier to get IPs when there were none and you were buying from an auction but now that they have them they want you to fill out a bunch of info and recertify everything.
Erich Kaiser The Fusion Network erich@gotfusion.net Office: 815-570-3101
On Sat, Dec 28, 2019 at 11:23 AM Darin Steffl <darin.steffl@mnwifi.com> wrote:
In the most polite manner possible, RTFM.
ARIN has all the info on their website on how to request resources. It is not difficult. I've never had to call them before.
On Sat, Dec 28, 2019, 9:53 AM Seth Mattinen <sethm@rollernet.us> wrote:
On 12/28/19 7:12 AM, Terrance Devor wrote:
Thank You Jorge! What is important for us is not to overpay.... That's why auctions are really a last resort. Can someone please walk me through this with a few links? This is my first time going through this process.
Ask ARIN. They will help you.
I’ve done it many times. I’ve got my own resources and I’ve also helped many clients through the process. It really isn’t difficult. It can be a little tedious and a little time-consuming, especially if you’re needing to provide documentation for a significant allocation (e.g. an IPv6 /24), but it’s still quite do-able. Owen
On Dec 28, 2019, at 10:37 , Kaiser, Erich <erich@gotfusion.net> wrote:
Yes been doing it for years but seems to be more in depth now from latest documentation I received, it has never been an easy process IMO.
On Sat, Dec 28, 2019 at 12:22 PM Pennington, Scott <scott.pennington@cinbell.com <mailto:scott.pennington@cinbell.com>> wrote: This is not a change. You've always had to justify in order to legitimately transfer even from an auction.
Get Outlook for Android <https://aka.ms/ghei36> From: NANOG <nanog-bounces@nanog.org <mailto:nanog-bounces@nanog.org>> on behalf of Kaiser, Erich <erich@gotfusion.net <mailto:erich@gotfusion.net>> Sent: Saturday, December 28, 2019 1:13:53 PM To: Darin Steffl <darin.steffl@mnwifi.com <mailto:darin.steffl@mnwifi.com>> Cc: North American Network Operators' Group <nanog@nanog.org <mailto:nanog@nanog.org>> Subject: Re: Requesting /24 from ARIN
They have changed their policies from what I can tell. It was easier to get IPs when there were none and you were buying from an auction but now that they have them they want you to fill out a bunch of info and recertify everything.
Erich Kaiser The Fusion Network erich@gotfusion.net <mailto:erich@gotfusion.net> Office: 815-570-3101
On Sat, Dec 28, 2019 at 11:23 AM Darin Steffl <darin.steffl@mnwifi.com <mailto:darin.steffl@mnwifi.com>> wrote: In the most polite manner possible, RTFM.
ARIN has all the info on their website on how to request resources. It is not difficult. I've never had to call them before.
On Sat, Dec 28, 2019, 9:53 AM Seth Mattinen <sethm@rollernet.us <mailto:sethm@rollernet.us>> wrote: On 12/28/19 7:12 AM, Terrance Devor wrote:
Thank You Jorge! What is important for us is not to overpay.... That's why auctions are really a last resort. Can someone please walk me through this with a few links? This is my first time going through this process.
Ask ARIN. They will help you.
Hello Scott, That is the part I am a little confused about. Justification? We are cloud based solution/service providers with ISP reseller accounts and increased amount of long term relationships who need dedicated IP addresses. Securing a /24 is our entry point and we will require more as we move forward. What type of justifications will they need? Kind Regards, Terrance On Sat, Dec 28, 2019 at 1:23 PM Pennington, Scott < scott.pennington@cinbell.com> wrote:
This is not a change. You've always had to justify in order to legitimately transfer even from an auction.
Get Outlook for Android <https://aka.ms/ghei36>
------------------------------ *From:* NANOG <nanog-bounces@nanog.org> on behalf of Kaiser, Erich < erich@gotfusion.net> *Sent:* Saturday, December 28, 2019 1:13:53 PM *To:* Darin Steffl <darin.steffl@mnwifi.com> *Cc:* North American Network Operators' Group <nanog@nanog.org> *Subject:* Re: Requesting /24 from ARIN
They have changed their policies from what I can tell. It was easier to get IPs when there were none and you were buying from an auction but now that they have them they want you to fill out a bunch of info and recertify everything.
Erich Kaiser The Fusion Network erich@gotfusion.net Office: 815-570-3101
On Sat, Dec 28, 2019 at 11:23 AM Darin Steffl <darin.steffl@mnwifi.com> wrote:
In the most polite manner possible, RTFM.
ARIN has all the info on their website on how to request resources. It is not difficult. I've never had to call them before.
On Sat, Dec 28, 2019, 9:53 AM Seth Mattinen <sethm@rollernet.us> wrote:
On 12/28/19 7:12 AM, Terrance Devor wrote:
Thank You Jorge! What is important for us is not to overpay.... That's why auctions are really a last resort. Can someone please walk me through this with a few links? This is my first time going through this process.
Ask ARIN. They will help you.
Hi Terrance. I don't represent ARIN in any way, but typically proof of dual BGP homing with 2 or more upstreams is adequate for my customers. Get Outlook for Android<https://aka.ms/ghei36> ________________________________ From: Terrance Devor <ter.devor@gmail.com> Sent: Saturday, December 28, 2019 2:33:09 PM To: Pennington, Scott <scott.pennington@cinbell.com> Cc: Kaiser, Erich <erich@gotfusion.net>; Darin Steffl <darin.steffl@mnwifi.com>; North American Network Operators' Group <nanog@nanog.org> Subject: Re: Requesting /24 from ARIN Hello Scott, That is the part I am a little confused about. Justification? We are cloud based solution/service providers with ISP reseller accounts and increased amount of long term relationships who need dedicated IP addresses. Securing a /24 is our entry point and we will require more as we move forward. What type of justifications will they need? Kind Regards, Terrance On Sat, Dec 28, 2019 at 1:23 PM Pennington, Scott <scott.pennington@cinbell.com<mailto:scott.pennington@cinbell.com>> wrote: This is not a change. You've always had to justify in order to legitimately transfer even from an auction. Get Outlook for Android<https://aka.ms/ghei36> ________________________________ From: NANOG <nanog-bounces@nanog.org<mailto:nanog-bounces@nanog.org>> on behalf of Kaiser, Erich <erich@gotfusion.net<mailto:erich@gotfusion.net>> Sent: Saturday, December 28, 2019 1:13:53 PM To: Darin Steffl <darin.steffl@mnwifi.com<mailto:darin.steffl@mnwifi.com>> Cc: North American Network Operators' Group <nanog@nanog.org<mailto:nanog@nanog.org>> Subject: Re: Requesting /24 from ARIN They have changed their policies from what I can tell. It was easier to get IPs when there were none and you were buying from an auction but now that they have them they want you to fill out a bunch of info and recertify everything. Erich Kaiser The Fusion Network erich@gotfusion.net<mailto:erich@gotfusion.net> Office: 815-570-3101 [https://docs.google.com/uc?export=download&id=0B12mNmVrr3-PVWFkTjVnNnh2czg&revid=0B12mNmVrr3-PVlJBWlZ1Z3kyeS80RUJjSWZWaFBUa0NCV1lBPQ] On Sat, Dec 28, 2019 at 11:23 AM Darin Steffl <darin.steffl@mnwifi.com<mailto:darin.steffl@mnwifi.com>> wrote: In the most polite manner possible, RTFM. ARIN has all the info on their website on how to request resources. It is not difficult. I've never had to call them before. On Sat, Dec 28, 2019, 9:53 AM Seth Mattinen <sethm@rollernet.us<mailto:sethm@rollernet.us>> wrote: On 12/28/19 7:12 AM, Terrance Devor wrote:
Thank You Jorge! What is important for us is not to overpay.... That's why auctions are really a last resort. Can someone please walk me through this with a few links? This is my first time going through this process.
Ask ARIN. They will help you.
I'm going to bet that: 1) the docs at ARIN talk about all you need to do to get this mission accomplished 2) questions to the hostmaster/registration-services-desk will also get all of these questions answered 3) taking up 10k+ people's time on what is solved with the above 2 things isn't really helpful anymore call the registration services desk, Mr Sweating already provided the contact details. good luck fellow traveler. -chris On Sat, Dec 28, 2019 at 2:41 PM Pennington, Scott < scott.pennington@cinbell.com> wrote:
Hi Terrance. I don't represent ARIN in any way, but typically proof of dual BGP homing with 2 or more upstreams is adequate for my customers.
Get Outlook for Android <https://aka.ms/ghei36>
------------------------------ *From:* Terrance Devor <ter.devor@gmail.com> *Sent:* Saturday, December 28, 2019 2:33:09 PM *To:* Pennington, Scott <scott.pennington@cinbell.com> *Cc:* Kaiser, Erich <erich@gotfusion.net>; Darin Steffl < darin.steffl@mnwifi.com>; North American Network Operators' Group < nanog@nanog.org> *Subject:* Re: Requesting /24 from ARIN
Hello Scott,
That is the part I am a little confused about. Justification? We are cloud based solution/service providers with ISP reseller accounts and increased amount of long term relationships who need dedicated IP addresses. Securing a /24 is our entry point and we will require more as we move forward. What type of justifications will they need?
Kind Regards,
Terrance
On Sat, Dec 28, 2019 at 1:23 PM Pennington, Scott < scott.pennington@cinbell.com> wrote:
This is not a change. You've always had to justify in order to legitimately transfer even from an auction.
Get Outlook for Android <https://aka.ms/ghei36>
------------------------------ *From:* NANOG <nanog-bounces@nanog.org> on behalf of Kaiser, Erich < erich@gotfusion.net> *Sent:* Saturday, December 28, 2019 1:13:53 PM *To:* Darin Steffl <darin.steffl@mnwifi.com> *Cc:* North American Network Operators' Group <nanog@nanog.org> *Subject:* Re: Requesting /24 from ARIN
They have changed their policies from what I can tell. It was easier to get IPs when there were none and you were buying from an auction but now that they have them they want you to fill out a bunch of info and recertify everything.
Erich Kaiser The Fusion Network erich@gotfusion.net Office: 815-570-3101
On Sat, Dec 28, 2019 at 11:23 AM Darin Steffl <darin.steffl@mnwifi.com> wrote:
In the most polite manner possible, RTFM.
ARIN has all the info on their website on how to request resources. It is not difficult. I've never had to call them before.
On Sat, Dec 28, 2019, 9:53 AM Seth Mattinen <sethm@rollernet.us> wrote:
On 12/28/19 7:12 AM, Terrance Devor wrote:
Thank You Jorge! What is important for us is not to overpay.... That's why auctions are really a last resort. Can someone please walk me through this with a few links? This is my first time going through this process.
Ask ARIN. They will help you.
Thank you Chris, and I really appreciate the information I have received so far. Apologies everyone for the noise. Terrance On Sat, Dec 28, 2019 at 2:47 PM Christopher Morrow <morrowc.lists@gmail.com> wrote:
I'm going to bet that: 1) the docs at ARIN talk about all you need to do to get this mission accomplished 2) questions to the hostmaster/registration-services-desk will also get all of these questions answered 3) taking up 10k+ people's time on what is solved with the above 2 things isn't really helpful anymore
call the registration services desk, Mr Sweating already provided the contact details. good luck fellow traveler. -chris
On Sat, Dec 28, 2019 at 2:41 PM Pennington, Scott < scott.pennington@cinbell.com> wrote:
Hi Terrance. I don't represent ARIN in any way, but typically proof of dual BGP homing with 2 or more upstreams is adequate for my customers.
Get Outlook for Android <https://aka.ms/ghei36>
------------------------------ *From:* Terrance Devor <ter.devor@gmail.com> *Sent:* Saturday, December 28, 2019 2:33:09 PM *To:* Pennington, Scott <scott.pennington@cinbell.com> *Cc:* Kaiser, Erich <erich@gotfusion.net>; Darin Steffl < darin.steffl@mnwifi.com>; North American Network Operators' Group < nanog@nanog.org> *Subject:* Re: Requesting /24 from ARIN
Hello Scott,
That is the part I am a little confused about. Justification? We are cloud based solution/service providers with ISP reseller accounts and increased amount of long term relationships who need dedicated IP addresses. Securing a /24 is our entry point and we will require more as we move forward. What type of justifications will they need?
Kind Regards,
Terrance
On Sat, Dec 28, 2019 at 1:23 PM Pennington, Scott < scott.pennington@cinbell.com> wrote:
This is not a change. You've always had to justify in order to legitimately transfer even from an auction.
Get Outlook for Android <https://aka.ms/ghei36>
------------------------------ *From:* NANOG <nanog-bounces@nanog.org> on behalf of Kaiser, Erich < erich@gotfusion.net> *Sent:* Saturday, December 28, 2019 1:13:53 PM *To:* Darin Steffl <darin.steffl@mnwifi.com> *Cc:* North American Network Operators' Group <nanog@nanog.org> *Subject:* Re: Requesting /24 from ARIN
They have changed their policies from what I can tell. It was easier to get IPs when there were none and you were buying from an auction but now that they have them they want you to fill out a bunch of info and recertify everything.
Erich Kaiser The Fusion Network erich@gotfusion.net Office: 815-570-3101
On Sat, Dec 28, 2019 at 11:23 AM Darin Steffl <darin.steffl@mnwifi.com> wrote:
In the most polite manner possible, RTFM.
ARIN has all the info on their website on how to request resources. It is not difficult. I've never had to call them before.
On Sat, Dec 28, 2019, 9:53 AM Seth Mattinen <sethm@rollernet.us> wrote:
On 12/28/19 7:12 AM, Terrance Devor wrote:
Thank You Jorge! What is important for us is not to overpay.... That's why auctions are really a last resort. Can someone please walk me through this with a few links? This is my first time going through this process.
Ask ARIN. They will help you.
I did my first one back in 2015 I think. It's really not that difficult. Give me a call if you would like a general idea on what needs to be done. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Sat, Dec 28, 2019 at 2:53 PM Terrance Devor <ter.devor@gmail.com> wrote:
Thank you Chris, and I really appreciate the information I have received so far.
Apologies everyone for the noise.
Terrance
On Sat, Dec 28, 2019 at 2:47 PM Christopher Morrow < morrowc.lists@gmail.com> wrote:
I'm going to bet that: 1) the docs at ARIN talk about all you need to do to get this mission accomplished 2) questions to the hostmaster/registration-services-desk will also get all of these questions answered 3) taking up 10k+ people's time on what is solved with the above 2 things isn't really helpful anymore
call the registration services desk, Mr Sweating already provided the contact details. good luck fellow traveler. -chris
On Sat, Dec 28, 2019 at 2:41 PM Pennington, Scott < scott.pennington@cinbell.com> wrote:
Hi Terrance. I don't represent ARIN in any way, but typically proof of dual BGP homing with 2 or more upstreams is adequate for my customers.
Get Outlook for Android <https://aka.ms/ghei36>
------------------------------ *From:* Terrance Devor <ter.devor@gmail.com> *Sent:* Saturday, December 28, 2019 2:33:09 PM *To:* Pennington, Scott <scott.pennington@cinbell.com> *Cc:* Kaiser, Erich <erich@gotfusion.net>; Darin Steffl < darin.steffl@mnwifi.com>; North American Network Operators' Group < nanog@nanog.org> *Subject:* Re: Requesting /24 from ARIN
Hello Scott,
That is the part I am a little confused about. Justification? We are cloud based solution/service providers with ISP reseller accounts and increased amount of long term relationships who need dedicated IP addresses. Securing a /24 is our entry point and we will require more as we move forward. What type of justifications will they need?
Kind Regards,
Terrance
On Sat, Dec 28, 2019 at 1:23 PM Pennington, Scott < scott.pennington@cinbell.com> wrote:
This is not a change. You've always had to justify in order to legitimately transfer even from an auction.
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------------------------------ *From:* NANOG <nanog-bounces@nanog.org> on behalf of Kaiser, Erich < erich@gotfusion.net> *Sent:* Saturday, December 28, 2019 1:13:53 PM *To:* Darin Steffl <darin.steffl@mnwifi.com> *Cc:* North American Network Operators' Group <nanog@nanog.org> *Subject:* Re: Requesting /24 from ARIN
They have changed their policies from what I can tell. It was easier to get IPs when there were none and you were buying from an auction but now that they have them they want you to fill out a bunch of info and recertify everything.
Erich Kaiser The Fusion Network erich@gotfusion.net Office: 815-570-3101
On Sat, Dec 28, 2019 at 11:23 AM Darin Steffl <darin.steffl@mnwifi.com> wrote:
In the most polite manner possible, RTFM.
ARIN has all the info on their website on how to request resources. It is not difficult. I've never had to call them before.
On Sat, Dec 28, 2019, 9:53 AM Seth Mattinen <sethm@rollernet.us> wrote:
Thank You Jorge! What is important for us is not to overpay.... That's why auctions are really a last resort. Can someone please walk me through this with a few links? This is my first time going
On 12/28/19 7:12 AM, Terrance Devor wrote: through this
process.
Ask ARIN. They will help you.
On Sat, Dec 28, 2019, 2:33 PM Terrance Devor <ter.devor@gmail.com> wrote:
That is the part I am a little confused about. Justification
One major advantage of working through a broker / auctioneer is that they can help you with this. Documentation and justification is a hidden cost. It's not hard but it is arcane. The broker can help you phrase the explanation of your intended use in a way that doesn't cause you difficulty when ARIN staff analyzes it for compliance with the many policies. And help you make inexpensive changes and additions which will align your intended use with those policies. All of which you really want to do before the first time you tell ARIN staff what you intend to do with the addresses. Cause it's harder to turn a no into a yes than to get your ducks in a row so that it's a yes the first time. Regards, Bill Herrin
On Dec 28, 2019, at 06:29 , Matt Hoppes <mattlists@rivervalleyinternet.net> wrote:
Request it. We just got a /22 direct from ARIN yesterday.
There is currently a supply of IPs available from ARIN.
Otherwise your option is to buy at auction at a high expense.
For a /24, there’s also another option… Especially if you are doing a greenfield deployment… Deploy IPv6. If you deploy IPv6, you can get a /24 of IPv4 space from ARIN under NRPM section 4.10 to facilitate your IPv6 deployment. Owen
On Dec 28, 2019, at 8:33 AM, Terrance Devor <ter.devor@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello Everyone,
I know we are very late in the game however, I need the community's help. As our company continues to grow and establish long term relationships and bringing additional customers onto our infrastructure, we find ourselves desperately needing to reserve a /24.
I understand that IPv4 addresses are getting depleted as of 2015, can someone on here please guide us on how to best secure /24?
Thank You in Advance,
Terrance
On Sat, Dec 28, 2019 at 8:34 AM Terrance Devor <ter.devor@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello Everyone,
I know we are very late in the game however, I need the community's help. As our company continues to grow and establish long term relationships and bringing additional customers onto our infrastructure, we find ourselves desperately needing to reserve a /24.
I understand that IPv4 addresses are getting depleted as of 2015, can someone on here please guide us on how to best secure /24?
Buying this on the auction market is probably the best (only realistic?) way — e.g: https://auctions.ipv4.global/ W
Thank You in Advance,
Terrance
-- I don't think the execution is relevant when it was obviously a bad idea in the first place. This is like putting rabid weasels in your pants, and later expressing regret at having chosen those particular rabid weasels and that pair of pants. ---maf
Hi Terrence Your best bet and for the most accurate information is to call the ARIN help desk first thing Monday morning and talk with one of our awesome Analysts. Wait time is usually less than a minute. ARIN's Registration Services Help Desk is open and available by phone at +1.703.227.0660<tel:+1.703.227.0660>, Monday through Friday, 7:00 AM to 7:00 PM Eastern Time. You may also visit arin.net and review the section "Request IP Addresses & ASNs" Thanks John Sent from my iPhone On Dec 28, 2019, at 8:34 AM, Terrance Devor <ter.devor@gmail.com> wrote: ? Hello Everyone, I know we are very late in the game however, I need the community's help. As our company continues to grow and establish long term relationships and bringing additional customers onto our infrastructure, we find ourselves desperately needing to reserve a /24. I understand that IPv4 addresses are getting depleted as of 2015, can someone on here please guide us on how to best secure /24? Thank You in Advance, Terrance
Could go through Level3, or CenturyLink now I guess. We received a /24 a few weeks ago from CenturyLink without much hassle. Not sure what you're at network-wise so there may be a step in-between but it's something to look into. -------- Original message --------From: Terrance Devor <ter.devor@gmail.com> Date: 12/28/19 7:35 AM (GMT-06:00) To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Requesting /24 from ARIN Hello Everyone,I know we are very late in the game however, I need the community's help. As our company continues to grow and establish long term relationships and bringing additional customers onto our infrastructure, we find ourselves desperately needing to reserve a /24.I understand that IPv4 addresses are getting depleted as of 2015, can someone on here please guide us on how to best secure /24?Thank You in Advance,Terrance
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