have a friend who is a penguinista and wants to run a simple soft pbx. support of soft phones, 7960s, connect to a commercial sip gate, ... reccos for a packaged solution. i run a raw asterisk and would not wish it on my worst enemy. randy
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From: "Randy Bush" <randy@psg.com>
have a friend who is a penguinista and wants to run a simple soft pbx. support of soft phones, 7960s, connect to a commercial sip gate, ... reccos for a packaged solution.
i run a raw asterisk and would not wish it on my worst enemy.
Heh. I've been fond of FreePBX, myself, though the new version they were working on seemed like it was going to break all the best bits. Ward Mundy, @NerdUno, packages it as PBXinaFlash; 1.7.5.5 was decent. Cheers, -- jra -- Jay R. Ashworth Baylink jra@baylink.com Designer The Things I Think RFC 2100 Ashworth & Associates http://baylink.pitas.com 2000 Land Rover DII St Petersburg FL USA http://photo.imageinc.us +1 727 647 1274
Elastix should do the trick. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jay Ashworth" <jra@baylink.com> To: "NANOG" <nanog@nanog.org> Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2012 10:15:08 AM Subject: Re: pbx recco ----- Original Message -----
From: "Randy Bush" <randy@psg.com>
have a friend who is a penguinista and wants to run a simple soft pbx. support of soft phones, 7960s, connect to a commercial sip gate, ... reccos for a packaged solution.
i run a raw asterisk and would not wish it on my worst enemy.
Heh. I've been fond of FreePBX, myself, though the new version they were working on seemed like it was going to break all the best bits. Ward Mundy, @NerdUno, packages it as PBXinaFlash; 1.7.5.5 was decent. Cheers, -- jra -- Jay R. Ashworth Baylink jra@baylink.com Designer The Things I Think RFC 2100 Ashworth & Associates http://baylink.pitas.com 2000 Land Rover DII St Petersburg FL USA http://photo.imageinc.us +1 727 647 1274 Notice to Recipient: Information contained in this message may be privileged, confidential and protected from disclosure. If you are not an intended recipient, it is strictly prohibited to use, disseminate or copy this communication. If you have received this in error, please reply to the sender and then delete the message.Thank you.
i can see the ads coming now.... 1 weird trick for a good phone system! rofl On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 1:18 PM, Cody Grosskopf <cgrosskopf@scoe.org> wrote:
Elastix should do the trick.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Jay Ashworth" <jra@baylink.com> To: "NANOG" <nanog@nanog.org> Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2012 10:15:08 AM Subject: Re: pbx recco
----- Original Message -----
From: "Randy Bush" <randy@psg.com>
have a friend who is a penguinista and wants to run a simple soft pbx. support of soft phones, 7960s, connect to a commercial sip gate, ... reccos for a packaged solution.
i run a raw asterisk and would not wish it on my worst enemy.
Heh.
I've been fond of FreePBX, myself, though the new version they were working on seemed like it was going to break all the best bits.
Ward Mundy, @NerdUno, packages it as PBXinaFlash; 1.7.5.5 was decent.
Cheers, -- jra -- Jay R. Ashworth Baylink jra@baylink.com Designer The Things I Think RFC 2100 Ashworth & Associates http://baylink.pitas.com 2000 Land Rover DII St Petersburg FL USA http://photo.imageinc.us +1 727 647 1274
Notice to Recipient: Information contained in this message may be privileged, confidential and protected from disclosure. If you are not an intended recipient, it is strictly prohibited to use, disseminate or copy this communication. If you have received this in error, please reply to the sender and then delete the message.Thank you.
Randy, Greets from 105/102! Now that I've said that I have had some luck with Trixbox. His fun will be getting the Cisco phones talking sip and liking it. Wayne On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 10:00 AM, Randy Bush <randy@psg.com> wrote:
have a friend who is a penguinista and wants to run a simple soft pbx. support of soft phones, 7960s, connect to a commercial sip gate, ... reccos for a packaged solution.
i run a raw asterisk and would not wish it on my worst enemy.
randy
Wayne Wenthin (wayne.wenthin) writes:
Randy,
Greets from 105/102! Now that I've said that I have had some luck with Trixbox. His fun will be getting the Cisco phones talking sip and liking it.
Am running Trixbox (which wraps FreePBX) for 11 users, and using 7940s. Has been working like a charm for the last 3 years. Phil
Trixbox is basically stagnated. The last update was in 2010 On 5/15/2012 11:29 AM, Wayne Wenthin wrote:
Randy,
Greets from 105/102! Now that I've said that I have had some luck with Trixbox. His fun will be getting the Cisco phones talking sip and liking it.
Wayne
On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 10:00 AM, Randy Bush<randy@psg.com> wrote:
have a friend who is a penguinista and wants to run a simple soft pbx. support of soft phones, 7960s, connect to a commercial sip gate, ... reccos for a packaged solution.
i run a raw asterisk and would not wish it on my worst enemy.
randy
On May 15, 2012, at 1:00 PM, Randy Bush wrote:
have a friend who is a penguinista and wants to run a simple soft pbx. support of soft phones, 7960s, connect to a commercial sip gate, ... reccos for a packaged solution.
I'd recommend checking out SipXecs .. It's a really slick open source system supporting all of the above, plus a bit more. And there's a commercial arm as well that offers a commercially supported version with additional bells and whistles. http://www.sipfoundry.org
randy
--------------------------- Jason 'XenoPhage' Frisvold xenophage@godshell.com --------------------------- "Any sufficiently advanced magic is indistinguishable from technology." - Niven's Inverse of Clarke's Third Law
Randy Bush <randy@psg.com> writes:
have a friend who is a penguinista and wants to run a simple soft pbx. support of soft phones, 7960s, connect to a commercial sip gate, ... reccos for a packaged solution.
While Asterisk's configuration files are horrible (and written by people who didn't understand what a tokenizer is) it's really a case of the more clueful you are the worse off you'll find it. You just have to take a megadose of stupid pills in order to be happy with Asterisk's configuration. I've been using Astlinux, which allows access to the underlying files (in fact you edit them through a web interface) successfully with voip.ms (wholesale voip provider for cheap) for almost three years now. My experience fooling around with stuff like Trixbox, Askozia, and FreePBX is that there are plenty of cute GUI wrappers out there for configuring stuff, but at the end of the day as painful as handling the files directly is, it's a lot less painful than trying to work around the GUI's lossage whenever you want to do something that the designers didn't anticipate, which is pretty much all the time. Making Cisco 7940/7960 phones with SIP loads talk to Asterisk is well-documented, and their lossage modes are well-understood. Back to Astlinux, it's a pre-baked distro with click-here upgradability that will run nicely from CF on an embedded box like a PCEngines ALIX 2d3 (~15 simultaneous calls if you're not transcoding). 6 watts of power. Not a bad deal.
i run a raw asterisk and would not wish it on my worst enemy.
Sure you would, you'd encourage your competitors to use it. :) -r
On May 15, 2012, at 3:33 PM, Robert E. Seastrom wrote:
Randy Bush <randy@psg.com> writes:
have a friend who is a penguinista and wants to run a simple soft pbx. support of soft phones, 7960s, connect to a commercial sip gate, ... reccos for a packaged solution.
While Asterisk's configuration files are horrible (and written by people who didn't understand what a tokenizer is) it's really a case of the more clueful you are the worse off you'll find it. You just have to take a megadose of stupid pills in order to be happy with Asterisk's configuration.
so, I've also been running asterisk in various iterations. It's much better than it was in the past, but what I've found is once you poke at it enough macros are your friend and make your life easier. I'm not sure how many of you have programmed some other type of PBX while on a modem or terminal, but asterisk clearly makes it easier to diagnose what is going on and integrate a number of other solutions. It's also really meant to be run in a Linux environment vs *BSD. Much pain can be explained by trying to deal with OS port variances. The biggest problem I've seen is that for mass-users, the diverse network environments pose challenges to VoIP. Many international hotels block 5060 or have broken NAT/ALG issues. You usually need to VPN to the PBX or "internet" to work around these issues in my experience. - Jared (A mostly happy asterisk user)
+1 on pbxinaflash http://pbxinaflash.net/ Carlos Alcantar Race Communications / Race Team Member 101 Haskins Way, So. San Francisco, CA. 94080 Phone: +1 415 376 3314 / carlos@race.com / http://www.race.com -----Original Message----- From: Randy Bush <randy@psg.com> Date: Tue, 15 May 2012 07:00:18 -1000 To: "nanog@nanog.org" <nanog@nanog.org> Subject: pbx recco have a friend who is a penguinista and wants to run a simple soft pbx. support of soft phones, 7960s, connect to a commercial sip gate, ... reccos for a packaged solution. i run a raw asterisk and would not wish it on my worst enemy. randy
On 15/05/12 18:00, Randy Bush wrote:
i run a raw asterisk and would not wish it on my worst enemy.
I've been itching to try Freeswitch ever since I read this: http://www.freeswitch.org/node/117 Tom
On 16 May 2012, at 00:01, Tom Hill wrote:
I've been itching to try Freeswitch ever since I read this: http://www.freeswitch.org/node/117
Using FreeSwitch to provide trunk services for nearly a year. Very happy with it. Just does what it says on the tin. Currently installing a CudaTel as our office PBX before recommending it or not to customer (eating your own dog food) so far so good :) Thomas
On 2012-05-15 19:01, Tom Hill wrote:
On 15/05/12 18:00, Randy Bush wrote:
i run a raw asterisk and would not wish it on my worst enemy.
I've been itching to try Freeswitch
I know FreeSWITCH and Asterisk from the inside out because we ported both of them to IPv6. Verdict: - Asterisk started ugly but is getting much better very quickly. They actually have paid professional coders working on it, and it shows. They started participating in the IETF. They recently implemented ICE. They're on the right track. - FreeSWITCH started much prettier by reusing third-party libraries. But the glue code around these libs is absolutely horrendous. That glue code keeps growing and getting uglier. Their level of clue is dropping. Right now, I'd pick Asterisk over FreeSWITCH. Simon -- DTN made easy, lean, and smart --> http://postellation.viagenie.ca NAT64/DNS64 open-source --> http://ecdysis.viagenie.ca STUN/TURN server --> http://numb.viagenie.ca
On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 8:39 AM, Simon Perreault <simon.perreault@viagenie.ca> wrote:
On 2012-05-15 19:01, Tom Hill wrote:
On 15/05/12 18:00, Randy Bush wrote:
i run a raw asterisk and would not wish it on my worst enemy.
I've been itching to try Freeswitch
I know FreeSWITCH and Asterisk from the inside out because we ported both of them to IPv6.
Verdict:
- Asterisk started ugly but is getting much better very quickly. They actually have paid professional coders working on it, and it shows. They started participating in the IETF. They recently implemented ICE. They're on the right track.
- FreeSWITCH started much prettier by reusing third-party libraries. But the glue code around these libs is absolutely horrendous. That glue code keeps growing and getting uglier. Their level of clue is dropping.
Right now, I'd pick Asterisk over FreeSWITCH.
Simon -- DTN made easy, lean, and smart --> http://postellation.viagenie.ca NAT64/DNS64 open-source --> http://ecdysis.viagenie.ca STUN/TURN server --> http://numb.viagenie.ca
Thanks Simon, I was about to say something. Users that have a hard time with Asterisk do not understand it. -- ~ Andrew "lathama" Latham lathama@gmail.com http://lathama.net ~
Users that have a hard time with Asterisk do not understand it.
been running it since pre 1. have large complex configs with confs, follow-me (my original need), extensions and sip/iax peering with strange things all over the developing world. i still think config sucks. and changing syntax regulary may look like improvement to those with the copious spare time to track it. but for someone trying to run a stable install yet get the security patch of the week, it sucks bigtime. randy
yate hasnt been mentioned, which i am using successfully in multiple roles. http://yate.null.ro/pmwiki/ they have a distro similar to freepbx at http://www.freesentral.com/ however, we are currently evaluating sip:provider CE, which may be more than you need, but definitively worth a look. http://www.sipwise.com/products/spce/ its an open source softswitch implementation, which has made tremendous progress in recent releases. kind regards Thilo
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Roy -
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Tom Hill -
Wayne Wenthin