View of traffic into the ISP with Netflow/etc is very different than all on my lan traffic. Tr-069 is bad news. On Thu, Mar 24, 2022, 15:53 Tom Beecher <beecher@beecher.cc> wrote:
You don't even have to use their equipment. My provider at home is Charter / Spectrum. I own my own cable modem / router ,they have no equipment in my home. Their privacy policy is pretty standard.
Essentially : - Anything they can see that I transmit they will collect. - Anything they can see when I use their apps , even if I'm not on their network, they will collect. - They will use that information for their technical and business reasons, whatever they want. - I am very limited in what I can request that they don't collect or use.
None of this is new in the US. I think more people care about this than we think, but people don't really have an option to vote with their wallets.
On Thu, Mar 24, 2022 at 6:45 AM Giovane C. M. Moura via NANOG < nanog@nanog.org> wrote:
Hello there,
Several years ago, a friend of mine was working for a large telco and his job was to detect which clients had the worst networking experience.
To do that, the telco had this hadoop cluster, where it collected _tons_ of data from home users routers, and his job was to use ML to tell the signal from the noise.
I remember seeing a sample csv from this data, which contained _thousands_ of data fields (features) from each client.
I was _shocked_ by the amount of (meta)data they are able to pull from home routers. These even included your wifi network name _and_ password! (it's been several years since then).
And home users are _completely_ unaware of this.
So my question to you folks is:
- What's the policy regulations on this? I don't remember the features (thousands) but I'm pretty sure you could some profiling with it.
- Is anyone aware of any public discussion on this? I have never seen it.
Thanks,
Giovane Moura