View of traffic into the ISP with Netflow/etc is very different than all on my lan traffic.

Tr-069 is bad news.

On Thu, Mar 24, 2022, 15:53 Tom Beecher <beecher@beecher.cc> wrote:
You don't even have to use their equipment. My provider at home is Charter / Spectrum. I own my own cable modem  / router ,they have no equipment in my home. Their privacy policy is pretty standard.
 
Essentially : 
- Anything they can see that I transmit they will collect. 
- Anything they can see when I use their apps , even if I'm not on their network, they will collect. 
- They will use that information for their technical and business reasons, whatever they want. 
- I am very limited in what I can request that they don't collect or use. 

None of this is new in the US. I think more people care about this than we think, but people don't really have an option to vote with their wallets. 

On Thu, Mar 24, 2022 at 6:45 AM Giovane C. M. Moura via NANOG <nanog@nanog.org> wrote:
Hello there,

Several years ago, a friend of mine was working for a large telco and
his job was to detect which clients had the worst networking experience.

To do that, the telco had this hadoop cluster, where it collected _tons_
of data from home users routers, and his job was to use ML to tell the
signal from the noise.

  I remember seeing a sample csv from this data, which contained
_thousands_ of data fields (features) from each client.

I was _shocked_ by the amount of (meta)data they are able to pull from
home routers. These even included your wifi network name _and_ password!
(it's been several years since then).

And home users are _completely_ unaware of this.

So my question to you folks is:

- What's the policy regulations on this? I don't remember the features
(thousands) but I'm pretty sure you could some profiling with it.

- Is anyone aware of any public discussion on this? I have never seen it.

Thanks,

Giovane Moura