I'm the co-owner of a dark and lit fiber trunk across the border between San Diego, California and Tijuana Mexico. If anyone can hit me off-list or even on list if there is interest in helping, were looking to setup ways to interact with other carriers who may need the crossing. We're open to ideas on how to further monetize the circuits beyond its current service usage. We have a ton of strands and a pop on both sides with last mile capabilities. Just seeking ideas or help with this overall. Norman Global Exchange Telecom 619-319-7055 (I prefer WhatsApp or Text if you do too.)
Norman, I was involved in a couple of projects like this 20 years or so ago, both of them using microwave radio links to cross the border, and ultimately the projects were killed because Telmex, the Mexican government’s telephone monopoly, claim ownership of the rights to cross the border with telecommunications lines. Has that situation changed? Or do you have some kind of government permission now to exchange data across the border? I was always puzzled about how Mexico ever got connected to the Internet at all with such a policy, but we were blocked from doing it using frame relay over microwave. Twice! -mel via cell
On Oct 29, 2026, at 2:42 PM, Norman Jester via NANOG <nanog@lists.nanog.org> wrote:
I'm the co-owner of a dark and lit fiber trunk across the border between San Diego, California and Tijuana Mexico. If anyone can hit me off-list or even on list if there is interest in helping, were looking to setup ways to interact with other carriers who may need the crossing. We're open to ideas on how to further monetize the circuits beyond its current service usage. We have a ton of strands and a pop on both sides with last mile capabilities. Just seeking ideas or help with this overall.
Norman Global Exchange Telecom 619-319-7055 (I prefer WhatsApp or Text if you do too.) _______________________________________________ NANOG mailing list https://lists.nanog.org/archives/list/nanog@lists.nanog.org/message/OBWL6CQG...
Hi! Things have changed a lot. I do remember the days of all the microwave and laser beam border crossings. In fact there is still an old laser facility on the land we own that was decommissioned many years ago and was the original landowner's property. Kinda interesting really and fun to look at. Its like looking at and old time gold mine, antique history. We have government permissons and had to go through all the proper channels to do this. We have been operating for about 10 years for our own network and now just want to capitalize on the infrastructure in a carrier neutral way. On Thu, Oct 29, 2026 at 2:57 PM Mel Beckman <mel@beckman.org> wrote:
Norman,
I was involved in a couple of projects like this 20 years or so ago, both of them using microwave radio links to cross the border, and ultimately the projects were killed because Telmex, the Mexican government’s telephone monopoly, claim ownership of the rights to cross the border with telecommunications lines.
Has that situation changed? Or do you have some kind of government permission now to exchange data across the border? I was always puzzled about how Mexico ever got connected to the Internet at all with such a policy, but we were blocked from doing it using frame relay over microwave. Twice!
-mel via cell
On Oct 29, 2026, at 2:42 PM, Norman Jester via NANOG <nanog@lists.nanog.org> wrote:
I'm the co-owner of a dark and lit fiber trunk across the border between San Diego, California and Tijuana Mexico. If anyone can hit me off-list or even on list if there is interest in helping, were looking to setup ways to interact with other carriers who may need the crossing. We're open to ideas on how to further monetize the circuits beyond its current service usage. We have a ton of strands and a pop on both sides with last mile capabilities. Just seeking ideas or help with this overall.
Norman Global Exchange Telecom 619-319-7055 (I prefer WhatsApp or Text if you do too.) _______________________________________________ NANOG mailing list https://lists.nanog.org/archives/list/nanog@lists.nanog.org/message/OBWL6CQG...
-- Norman Jester 619-319-7055 (I prefer WhatsApp or Text if you do too.)
That’s great to hear! We were quite unhappy after our large investor went to all the effort to build a crossing network that Telmex simply seized and held hostage! -mel via cell
On Oct 29, 2026, at 3:38 PM, Norman Jester <nj@jester.mx> wrote:
Hi! Things have changed a lot. I do remember the days of all the microwave and laser beam border crossings. In fact there is still an old laser facility on the land we own that was decommissioned many years ago and was the original landowner's property. Kinda interesting really and fun to look at. Its like looking at and old time gold mine, antique history.
We have government permissons and had to go through all the proper channels to do this. We have been operating for about 10 years for our own network and now just want to capitalize on the infrastructure in a carrier neutral way.
On Thu, Oct 29, 2026 at 2:57 PM Mel Beckman <mel@beckman.org> wrote:
Norman,
I was involved in a couple of projects like this 20 years or so ago, both of them using microwave radio links to cross the border, and ultimately the projects were killed because Telmex, the Mexican government’s telephone monopoly, claim ownership of the rights to cross the border with telecommunications lines.
Has that situation changed? Or do you have some kind of government permission now to exchange data across the border? I was always puzzled about how Mexico ever got connected to the Internet at all with such a policy, but we were blocked from doing it using frame relay over microwave. Twice!
-mel via cell
On Oct 29, 2026, at 2:42 PM, Norman Jester via NANOG <nanog@lists.nanog.org> wrote:
I'm the co-owner of a dark and lit fiber trunk across the border between San Diego, California and Tijuana Mexico. If anyone can hit me off-list or even on list if there is interest in helping, were looking to setup ways to interact with other carriers who may need the crossing. We're open to ideas on how to further monetize the circuits beyond its current service usage. We have a ton of strands and a pop on both sides with last mile capabilities. Just seeking ideas or help with this overall.
Norman Global Exchange Telecom 619-319-7055 (I prefer WhatsApp or Text if you do too.) _______________________________________________ NANOG mailing list https://lists.nanog.org/archives/list/nanog@lists.nanog.org/message/OBWL6CQG...
-- Norman Jester 619-319-7055 (I prefer WhatsApp or Text if you do too.)
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