Hello all, Is there a WiFi equivalent to the VoIP MOS score? We are looking for a way to measure performance of a fairly large WiFi deployment. We have 8000+ access points (All Cisco). WE have the standard Cisco tools for managing the wireless network (ISE, Prime etc). But we are coming up short with a way to “score” the network. Does anyone have experience with this that might be able to help? How do large conferences “measure” wireless service quality etc? We are already doing end user surveys etc. We have “soft date”, we really need data points. —Jim
I've seen some conferences do a virtual participant device that joins the wifi and reports back data. Jared Mauch
On Mar 16, 2016, at 1:54 PM, Jim Wininger <jbotctc@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello all,
Is there a WiFi equivalent to the VoIP MOS score?
We are looking for a way to measure performance of a fairly large WiFi deployment.
We have 8000+ access points (All Cisco). WE have the standard Cisco tools for managing the wireless network (ISE, Prime etc). But we are coming up short with a way to “score” the network.
Does anyone have experience with this that might be able to help? How do large conferences “measure” wireless service quality etc? We are already doing end user surveys etc. We have “soft date”, we really need data points.
—Jim
On 3/20/16 12:34 PM, Jared Mauch wrote:
I've seen some conferences do a virtual participant device that joins the wifi and reports back data.
netbeez is an example of one such device. https://netbeez.net
Jared Mauch
On Mar 16, 2016, at 1:54 PM, Jim Wininger <jbotctc@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello all,
Is there a WiFi equivalent to the VoIP MOS score?
We are looking for a way to measure performance of a fairly large WiFi deployment.
We have 8000+ access points (All Cisco). WE have the standard Cisco tools for managing the wireless network (ISE, Prime etc). But we are coming up short with a way to “score” the network.
Does anyone have experience with this that might be able to help? How do large conferences “measure” wireless service quality etc? We are already doing end user surveys etc. We have “soft date”, we really need data points.
—Jim
When we do large events, we use the "virtual participant" type of testing (throughput, latency, connection time from clients we control at different locations in the venue) in addition to regular infrastructure-side metrics like RSSI, SNR, last known receive data rate, and system-specific metrics (we often use Aerohive gear, which has additional metrics like Radio Health, Network Health, Application Health). I'd suggest taking a look at what aspects of the network matter most for your deployments and developing a score based on the primary influencing metrics; most of it should be doable from the infrastructure side, but you may also consider the virtual participant option for additional data collection. Dan On Sun, Mar 20, 2016 at 12:34 PM, Jared Mauch <jared@puck.nether.net> wrote:
I've seen some conferences do a virtual participant device that joins the wifi and reports back data.
Jared Mauch
On Mar 16, 2016, at 1:54 PM, Jim Wininger <jbotctc@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello all,
Is there a WiFi equivalent to the VoIP MOS score?
We are looking for a way to measure performance of a fairly large WiFi deployment.
We have 8000+ access points (All Cisco). WE have the standard Cisco tools for managing the wireless network (ISE, Prime etc). But we are coming up short with a way to “score” the network.
Does anyone have experience with this that might be able to help? How do large conferences “measure” wireless service quality etc? We are already doing end user surveys etc. We have “soft date”, we really need data points.
—Jim
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Jim, There isn't such an animal and that's because the notion of an opinion score for voice is pretty easy to quantify, but a good WiFi experience depends a lot more on what you find to be acceptable for your deployment and that normally depends a lot on your budget. What we do is determine what our target metrics are and then measure to that, most of the commercial APs and controllers can provide all this data, average speed, clients per AP, average RSSI, number of associations and auths per minute, and error counts. The reason you can't just get an industry standardized score is that while most conferences are happy if the average PHY speed is over 6 mbps that's clearly bad in an enterprise service. Scott Helms Chief Technology Officer ZCorum (678) 507-5000 -------------------------------- http://twitter.com/kscotthelms -------------------------------- On Wed, Mar 16, 2016 at 1:54 PM, Jim Wininger <jbotctc@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello all,
Is there a WiFi equivalent to the VoIP MOS score?
We are looking for a way to measure performance of a fairly large WiFi deployment.
We have 8000+ access points (All Cisco). WE have the standard Cisco tools for managing the wireless network (ISE, Prime etc). But we are coming up short with a way to “score” the network.
Does anyone have experience with this that might be able to help? How do large conferences “measure” wireless service quality etc? We are already doing end user surveys etc. We have “soft date”, we really need data points.
—Jim
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