FYI, new USG Cybersecurity Coordinator ...


On Tue, 22 Dec 2009 07:42:18 CST, Jorge Amodio said:
http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/2009/12/22/introducing-new-cybersecurity-coordinator/?e=23&ref=image
"Meet the new boss / Same as the old boss" -- The Who, "Won't Get Fooled Again". Do we have any indication that anything has been changed this time around? Operational content: None, unless he's actually able to make things happen now, in which case things might get interesting...

Personally, I have been seeing much more of a substantive push in this arena than in times past, owing mostly to the large umbrella of the Department of Homeland Security. As an example here in Texas - municipal, county, and some state offices are requiring network engineers to be licensed SE's (Software Engineers) under the authority of the Texas Board of Professional Engineers. The language I have seen in policies published in the last 2 months requires that anyone programming, configuring, or commissioning routers or other network hardware that contain internal software systems carry that license. ...it seems that other states are preparing to adopt the SE license (likely not until the exam is completed) and I wouldn't be surprised if a "Cybersecurity Coordinator" required such a license Federally. http://www.tbpe.state.tx.us/swe/main.htm http://www.todaysengineer.org/2009/Sep/Software-PE.asp Brandon L. Technology Systems Director SHRADER ENGINEERING -----Original Message----- From: Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu [mailto:Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu] Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2009 9:10 AM To: Jorge Amodio Cc: NANOG Subject: Re: FYI, new USG Cybersecurity Coordinator ... On Tue, 22 Dec 2009 07:42:18 CST, Jorge Amodio said:
http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/2009/12/22/introducing-new-cybersecurit y-coordinator/?e=23&ref=image
"Meet the new boss / Same as the old boss" -- The Who, "Won't Get Fooled Again". Do we have any indication that anything has been changed this time around? Operational content: None, unless he's actually able to make things happen now, in which case things might get interesting...

On Tue, 22 Dec 2009 09:44:09 CST, "Brandon M. Lapointe" said:
municipal, county, and some state offices are requiring network engineers to be licensed SE's (Software Engineers) under the authority of the Texas Board of Professional Engineers.
Except it's not actually very clear that Software Engineering has all that much to do with Network Engineering. You *writing* IOS code, or just *using* it? I suppose it's a start, anyhow.

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On Tue, 22 Dec 2009 07:42:18 CST, Jorge Amodio said:
http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/2009/12/22/introducing-new-cybersecurity- coordinator/?e=23&ref=image
"Meet the new boss / Same as the old boss" -- The Who, "Won't Get Fooled Again".
Do we have any indication that anything has been changed this time around?
Operational content: None, unless he's actually able to make things happen now, in which case things might get interesting...
As I mentioned elsewhere, nobody else wanted the job. :-) - - ferg -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP Desktop 9.5.3 (Build 5003) wj8DBQFLMRibq1pz9mNUZTMRArJuAKDcElO6p/ryPn3j4Y1Lf/2VHaNn/gCdHrvc Df8KQ0fyt4sgsSatiaL+CLk= =z7Df -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- "Fergie", a.k.a. Paul Ferguson Engineering Architecture for the Internet fergdawgster(at)gmail.com ferg's tech blog: http://fergdawg.blogspot.com/

On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 7:06 PM, Paul Ferguson <fergdawgster@gmail.com> wrote:
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On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 7:09 AM, <Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu> wrote:
On Tue, 22 Dec 2009 07:42:18 CST, Jorge Amodio said:
http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/2009/12/22/introducing-new-cybersecurity- coordinator/?e=23&ref=image
"Meet the new boss / Same as the old boss" -- The Who, "Won't Get Fooled Again".
Do we have any indication that anything has been changed this time around?
Operational content: None, unless he's actually able to make things happen now, in which case things might get interesting...
As I mentioned elsewhere, nobody else wanted the job. :-)
- - ferg
I'm sure Gadi Evron wanted it--- except he used to work for Israel Defence Force (IDF, Military Intelligence) http://www.linkedin.com/in/gadievron and knew he would be denied. Also, Marcus Sachs probably wanted it. Both are power hungry morons in the Cybersecurity realm respected by little but no people. But as Marcus Sachs already states on SANS ISC, http://isc.sans.org/diary.html?storyid=7792 he is friends with Howard Schmidt "I've known and worked with Howard for over 12 years and I think he's going to do well in this position." Yeah I bet he will--- with you and Gadi telling him what to do behind the scenes. Israel and Pakistan working Howard Schmidt by the strings. So even though Gadi is Israeli and Marcus Sachs Pakistani and couldn't be appointed as cybersecurity czar, they both are going to be working the strings attached to the puppet show that is about to commence in 2010. Just when we thought we might have a Cybersecurity czar not related to Marcus Sachs and Gadi Evron, the White House let's us down again, and the circle of power continues, the ring of evil that is Gadi and Marcus, both with connections to foreign Intelligence agency's and working the strings of the new Cybersecurity puppet. Anybody who is 12 years friends with Marcus Sachs shouldn't of been appointed in my humble opinion, and we know Gadi is best friends with Marcus Sachs, so we are all pretty much doomed to failure, as we all know Marcus and Gadi have a pro-cyber war agenda and will try and ramp it up to Howard Schmidt from behind the scenes. While folks said no one wanted the job, thats correct, but what will be happening now, is a lot of folks who are power hungry trying to influence Howard Schmidt for their own agendas from behind closed doors. The power hungry's will now be jockeying for position behind the scenes, to influence and manipulate the new Cybersecurity czar for their own agendas, and unless Howard Schmidt is on the ball and aware of this he's going to be used and abused by everybody and he and the White House will be taken for a ride because all the interest groups with their own cybersecurity agendas are going to want to exploit Howard Schmidt, and not all of this might be in the best interests of the United States. The United States will need to be careful who gets access to Howard Schmidt, who is friends with Howard Schmidt and who might be trying to manipulate and play him. We are living in dangerous times, unless the new cybersecurity czar is managed properly. There are people out there, just two of them mentioned above, who are pro-cyber war and will want access to Howard Schmidt and they should be denied access to him, because we don't want Howard Schmidt to be told the wrong things, that relayed back to Obama and the wrong cyber political messages being said on television by Obama. I'm not worried, i'm very worried about who has access to Howard Schmidt.

On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 7:19 AM, Christopher Morrow <morrowc.lists@gmail.com> wrote:
(again, this seems really off topic, but)
On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 7:33 PM, andrew.wallace <andrew.wallace@rocketmail.com> wrote:
though Gadi is Israeli and Marcus Sachs Pakistani and couldn't be
marcus is pakistani?
"He was born in Lahore, Pakistan in 1959 and moved to Tallahassee, Florida with his parents and younger brother in 1961." --Wikipedia. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marcus_Sachs To me its amazing how deep into U.S Intelligence and The White House he's been allowed to go up until now.

andrew.wallace wrote:
"He was born in Lahore, Pakistan in 1959 and moved to Tallahassee, Florida with his parents and younger brother in 1961." --Wikipedia.
Just like many Americans.
To me its amazing how deep into U.S Intelligence and The White House he's been allowed to go up until now.
"... Georgia Institute of Technology in Atlanta, where he graduated in 1981 with a Bachelor of Civil Engineering degree. "Commissioned as a Second Lieutenant of Engineers in the United States Army in 1981, he served over 20 years as an officer in the Army Corps of Engineers. He graduated from the United States Army Command and General Staff College, and holds a master's degree in Science and Technology Commercialization from the University of Texas and a master's degree in Computer Science from James Madison University." An un-American mole, loyal to a country and a long-time US allied government that he probably doesn't remember? I'm wondering whether you're related to: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Wallace

+BIGINT The real issues are (a) is this billet actually able to originate policy, (b) interpret existing policy, (c) at least find the RNC mail archive, (d) ... Who the hell cares if the billet is filled by a Soviet Mole (tm) if the job is decoration? Eric On 12/23/09 12:42 PM, William Allen Simpson wrote:
andrew.wallace wrote:
"He was born in Lahore, Pakistan in 1959 and moved to Tallahassee, Florida with his parents and younger brother in 1961." --Wikipedia.
Just like many Americans.
To me its amazing how deep into U.S Intelligence and The White House he's been allowed to go up until now.
"... Georgia Institute of Technology in Atlanta, where he graduated in 1981 with a Bachelor of Civil Engineering degree.
"Commissioned as a Second Lieutenant of Engineers in the United States Army in 1981, he served over 20 years as an officer in the Army Corps of Engineers. He graduated from the United States Army Command and General Staff College, and holds a master's degree in Science and Technology Commercialization from the University of Texas and a master's degree in Computer Science from James Madison University."
An un-American mole, loyal to a country and a long-time US allied government that he probably doesn't remember?
I'm wondering whether you're related to:
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andrew.wallace
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Brandon M. Lapointe
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Christopher Morrow
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Eric Brunner-Williams
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Jorge Amodio
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Paul Ferguson
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Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu
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William Allen Simpson