As if it weren't bad enough that the pointy-haired management types are constantly taking credit for any innovation or improvement we make in our day-to-day duties as the keepers of the bits, our beloved Vice President has now decided to take credit for creating the internet! "During my service in the United States Congress, I took the initiative in creating the Internet." -- Al Gore, Idiot Extraordinare' http://www.wired.com/news/news/politics/story/18390.html ------------------------------------------------------------------ ML.ORG is gone. Check out http://www.EZ-IP.Net - It's *FREE* ------------------------------------------------------------------ Get your *FREE* Parked Domain account at http://www.EZ-Hosting.Com ------------------------------------------------------------------ John Fraizer | __ _ | The System Administrator | / / (_)__ __ ____ __ | The choice mailto:John.Fraizer@EnterZone.Net | / /__/ / _ \/ // /\ \/ / | of a GNU http://www.EnterZone.Net/ | /____/_/_//_/\_,_/ /_/\_\ | Generation PGP Key fingerprint = 7DB6 1CA2 DAA6 43DA 3AAF 44CD 258C 3D7E B425 81A8
On Fri, Mar 12, 1999 at 05:49:53AM -0500, John Fraizer wrote:
As if it weren't bad enough that the pointy-haired management types are constantly taking credit for any innovation or improvement we make in our day-to-day duties as the keepers of the bits, our beloved Vice President has now decided to take credit for creating the internet!
"During my service in the United States Congress, I took the initiative in creating the Internet." -- Al Gore, Idiot Extraordinare'
What do the folks over at GTE Internetworking have to say about that? :) -- Steve Sobol sjsobol@nacs.net (AKA support@nacs.net and abuse@nacs.net) "The world is headed for mutiny/When all we want is unity" --Creed, "One"
On Fri, Mar 12, 1999 at 05:49:53AM -0500, John Fraizer wrote:
What do the folks over at GTE Internetworking have to say about that? :)
You know, it seems to me that I remember some Sun Microsystems advertisement several years ago where *they* claim to have invented networking (now I see their current claim to fame is that they are the '.' in '.com' :-). Now that all these folks have laid claim to inventing the Internet, I wonder who will take the credit (blame?) for inventing the web? --Jeff
On Fri, Mar 12, 1999 at 02:12:24PM -0500, Jeff Aitken wrote:
Now that all these folks have laid claim to inventing the Internet, I wonder who will take the credit (blame?) for inventing the web?
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On Fri, 12 Mar 1999, Jeff Aitken wrote:
You know, it seems to me that I remember some Sun Microsystems advertisement several years ago where *they* claim to have invented networking (now I see their current claim to fame is that they are the '.' in '.com' :-).
Sure, they can claim to be the dot. Keep in mind that of the whole .com, the dot is the smallest most insignificant portion of it. :) ====================================================================== Derek J. Balling | "Bill Gates is a monocle and a white dredd@megacity.org | fluffy cat from being a villain in the http://www.megacity.org/ | next Bond film." - Dennis Miller ======================================================================
On Fri, 12 Mar 1999, Jeff Aitken wrote:
Now that all these folks have laid claim to inventing the Internet, I wonder who will take the credit (blame?) for inventing the web?
Microsoft, of course. Give people a year or so of the "your desktop is the web / the web is your desktop" mantra and it will seem quite natural that Microsoft invented the web. I mean most people think they invented the "General Protection Fault", right? Charles
--Jeff
On Fri, 12 Mar 1999, Charles Sprickman wrote:
On Fri, 12 Mar 1999, Jeff Aitken wrote:
Now that all these folks have laid claim to inventing the Internet, I wonder who will take the credit (blame?) for inventing the web?
Microsoft, of course. Give people a year or so of the "your desktop is the web / the web is your desktop" mantra and it will seem quite natural that Microsoft invented the web. I mean most people think they invented the "General Protection Fault", right?
Course not, they bought out the inventing company and added a feature to all their software. ---- As folks might have suspected, not much survives except roaches, and they don't carry large enough packets fast enough... --About the Internet and nuclear war.
On Fri, Mar 12, 1999 at 06:11:36PM -0500, Charles Sprickman wrote:
Now that all these folks have laid claim to inventing the Internet, I wonder who will take the credit (blame?) for inventing the web?
Microsoft, of course. Give people a year or so of the "your desktop is the web / the web is your desktop" mantra and it will seem quite natural that Microsoft invented the web. I mean most people think they invented the "General Protection Fault", right?
They did. :) (ObNetOps: Be glad Microsoft doesn't build routers.) -- Steve Sobol sjsobol@nacs.net (AKA support@nacs.net and abuse@nacs.net) "The world is headed for mutiny/When all we want is unity" --Creed, "One"
On Fri, 12 Mar 1999, Jeff Aitken wrote:
On Fri, Mar 12, 1999 at 05:49:53AM -0500, John Fraizer wrote:
What do the folks over at GTE Internetworking have to say about that? :)
You know, it seems to me that I remember some Sun Microsystems advertisement several years ago where *they* claim to have invented networking (now I see their current claim to fame is that they are the '.' in '.com' :-).
Now that all these folks have laid claim to inventing the Internet, I wonder who will take the credit (blame?) for inventing the web?
Berners-Lee ?? ---- As folks might have suspected, not much survives except roaches, and they don't carry large enough packets fast enough... --About the Internet and nuclear war.
Now that all these folks have laid claim to inventing the Internet, I wonder who will take the credit (blame?) for inventing the web? Berners-Lee ??
indeed, tbl deserves much credit for html and the client/server model and implementation. but hypertext, links, etc. were described by vanevar busch (sp?) in 1948. undoubtedly the sociopaths of the time excoriated him for it. randy
indeed, tbl deserves much credit for html and the client/server model and implementation.
Or SGML, derived from IBM's GML as one product solution to various attempts by the Pentagon to specify a generalized markup language back in the 70's.
but hypertext, links, etc. were described by vanevar busch (sp?) in 1948. undoubtedly the sociopaths of the time excoriated him for it.
Ted Nelson is usually given a lot of credit for putting hypertext into a recognizeable computer framework around 1961, he coined the term. Vannevar Busch's article, which I've read, certainly saw the shadows on the walls of the cave though I'm not entirely certain he wasn't just taking a baby step forward from the 1930's era Hollerith card crime data bank the FBI had built to match MO's and fingerprints etc. You can see the FBI stuff in old B&W crimebuster movies where they'll cut to grainy file footage of thousands of punchcards being sorted noisily in those large sorters as the G-men mercilessly hunt down their man, and the answer punches out on the KSR-33 in the local office... -- -Barry Shein Software Tool & Die | bzs@world.std.com | http://www.world.com Purveyors to the Trade | Voice: 617-739-0202 | Login: 617-739-WRLD The World | Public Access Internet | Since 1989 *oo*
On Fri, 12 Mar 1999, Jeff Aitken wrote:
Date: Fri, 12 Mar 1999 14:12:24 -0500 (EST) From: Jeff Aitken <jaitken@aitken.com> To: Steven J. Sobol <sjsobol@nacs.net> Cc: John.Fraizer@EnterZone.Net, nanog@merit.edu Subject: Re: They're at it again...
You know, it seems to me that I remember some Sun Microsystems advertisement several years ago where *they* claim to have invented networking (now I see their current claim to fame is that they are the '.' in '.com' :-).
If you read between the lines, there, I think Sun is actually claiming to get <between> you and the Internet (or at least the TLDs). *smirk* Russell -- Russell M. Van Tassell russell@cscorp.com
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