Are underground utility markers essential workers?
Utility markers don't get the recognition they deserve. If they aren't essential workers, they should be.... and get hazard pay. They help protect everyone's fiber and cables and pipes that go boom.
In the scope and performance of their duties includes any work involving essential telecommunications expansion or restoration - then yes. And agreed. They save lives. Period. Call before you dig. Please. -Ben Ms. Benjamin PD Cannon, ASCE 6x7 Networks & 6x7 Telecom, LLC CEO ben@6by7.net <mailto:ben@6by7.net> "The only fully end-to-end encrypted global telecommunications company in the world."
On Apr 21, 2020, at 11:57 AM, Sean Donelan <sean@donelan.com> wrote:
Utility markers don't get the recognition they deserve. If they aren't essential workers, they should be.... and get hazard pay.
They help protect everyone's fiber and cables and pipes that go boom.
Since in our case they are Outside Plant Tech's who are assigned the duties as needed, they are essential workers. On Tue, Apr 21, 2020 at 11:59 AM Sean Donelan <sean@donelan.com> wrote:
Utility markers don't get the recognition they deserve. If they aren't essential workers, they should be.... and get hazard pay.
They help protect everyone's fiber and cables and pipes that go boom.
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USIC is not marking on Fridays around here. URG is marking but only 4 hours a day. - Jared
On Apr 21, 2020, at 4:44 PM, Jeff Shultz <jeffshultz@sctcweb.com> wrote:
Since in our case they are Outside Plant Tech's who are assigned the duties as needed, they are essential workers.
On Tue, Apr 21, 2020 at 11:59 AM Sean Donelan <sean@donelan.com> wrote:
Utility markers don't get the recognition they deserve. If they aren't essential workers, they should be.... and get hazard pay.
They help protect everyone's fiber and cables and pipes that go boom.
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USIC marked on April 17 (last Friday) here. At least the email said they did in the afternoon - we just had to call them back to locate (there were no red/power flags). Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Apr 21, 2020 at 4:48 PM Jared Mauch <jared@puck.nether.net> wrote:
USIC is not marking on Fridays around here.
URG is marking but only 4 hours a day.
- Jared
On Apr 21, 2020, at 4:44 PM, Jeff Shultz <jeffshultz@sctcweb.com> wrote:
Since in our case they are Outside Plant Tech's who are assigned the duties as needed, they are essential workers.
On Tue, Apr 21, 2020 at 11:59 AM Sean Donelan <sean@donelan.com> wrote:
Utility markers don't get the recognition they deserve. If they aren't essential workers, they should be.... and get hazard pay.
They help protect everyone's fiber and cables and pipes that go boom.
-- Jeff Shultz
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On 4/21/20 2:57 PM, Sean Donelan wrote:
Utility markers don't get the recognition they deserve. If they aren't essential workers, they should be.... and get hazard pay.
They help protect everyone's fiber and cables and pipes that go boom.
If underground construction is an essential activity (and it certainly is, at least repairs generally are - new construction perhaps could be argued), then underground utility marking is, too, since it's mandatory for safely performing underground construction. -- Brandon Martin
On Tue, Apr 21, 2020 at 11:57 AM Sean Donelan <sean@donelan.com> wrote:
Utility markers don't get the recognition they deserve. If they aren't essential workers, they should be.... and get hazard pay.
Hi Sean, I agree that they're essential, but what hazard are we talking about? The virus isn't mysteriously floating about "out there," beyond your window. it's proximate to other people and more indoors than out. Utility markers only rarely wound their way through crowds even when the crowds weren't hunkered down at home. Delivery workers, grocery workers, medical staff, I see a plausible source of hazard there. What's the abnormal hazard to utility markers? Regards, Bill Herrin -- William Herrin bill@herrin.us https://bill.herrin.us/
It really goes back to what I have maintained in that you can't really say who is essential or not because such declarations never extend the full width and breadth of the supply and distribution chain. For example, someone manufacturing cardboard boxes might not be thought of as essential but when these cardboard boxes are used to package food items so they can be sent around the country, does that mean that they now are? What if they're being used to package medical supplies? Trying to judge "essential" and "non-essential" is always going to be problematic and you're always going to get it wrong. On Tue, Apr 21, 2020 at 02:57:15PM -0400, Sean Donelan wrote:
Utility markers don't get the recognition they deserve. If they aren't essential workers, they should be.... and get hazard pay.
They help protect everyone's fiber and cables and pipes that go boom.
--- Wayne Bouchard web@typo.org Network Dude http://www.typo.org/~web/
Sean Donelan wrote on 21/04/2020 19:57:
Utility markers don't get the recognition they deserve. If they aren't essential workers, they should be.... and get hazard pay.
They help protect everyone's fiber and cables and pipes that go boom.
we have a very poorly-defined idea of what constitutes an "essential worker", and in the more general case, what constitutes an essential supplier. Supply chains are complex, and disruptions in one place can serious downstream ripple effects in another. There are plenty of examples like this at the moment:
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-04-16/broadcom-says-orders-requ... Nick
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