Re: NYT covers China cyberthreat
I'm only part way through, but I find it hard to believe that only micro$loth computers are used as the attack OS. Maybe I
--- calin.chiorean@secdisk.net wrote: From: "calin.chiorean" <calin.chiorean@secdisk.net> <snipped> :: when all tools are available for windows os, you just have to compile them. <sniped out the rest> ------------------------------------------------- From: Scott Weeks <surfer@mauigateway.com> ::: They're not all available for m$. --- wbailey@satelliteintelligencegroup.com wrote: From: Warren Bailey <wbailey@satelliteintelligencegroup.com> They are when you have a college full of programmers. -------------------------------------------------- Please elaborate. I didn't follow that. scott
Part of the entire 'chinese l337 hxx0r spy' 1st complex is apparently the local equivalent of a community college, where the passing out assignment is probably something on the lines of 'get me a dump of the dalai lama's email'. --srs (htc one x) On 20-Feb-2013 2:08 PM, "Scott Weeks" <surfer@mauigateway.com> wrote:
I'm only part way through, but I find it hard to believe that only micro$loth computers are used as the attack OS. Maybe I
--- calin.chiorean@secdisk.net wrote: From: "calin.chiorean" <calin.chiorean@secdisk.net>
<snipped> :: when all tools are available for windows os, you just have to compile them. <sniped out the rest> -------------------------------------------------
From: Scott Weeks <surfer@mauigateway.com>
::: They're not all available for m$.
--- wbailey@satelliteintelligencegroup.com wrote: From: Warren Bailey <wbailey@satelliteintelligencegroup.com>
They are when you have a college full of programmers. --------------------------------------------------
Please elaborate. I didn't follow that.
scott
Part of the entire 'chinese l337 hxx0r spy' 1st complex is apparently the local equivalent of a community college, where the passing out assignment is probably something on the lines of 'get me a dump of the dalai lama's email'.
american education is behind in many things. this is but one. randy
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From: "Randy Bush" <randy@psg.com>
Part of the entire 'chinese l337 hxx0r spy' 1st complex is apparently the local equivalent of a community college, where the passing out assignment is probably something on the lines of 'get me a dump of the dalai lama's email'.
american education is behind in many things. this is but one.
So true, Randy. But I think the underlying point here was more "when you do these things on the scale that nation-states do them, the result is different in type, not merely in degree". Cheers, -- jra -- Jay R. Ashworth Baylink jra@baylink.com Designer The Things I Think RFC 2100 Ashworth & Associates http://baylink.pitas.com 2000 Land Rover DII St Petersburg FL USA #natog +1 727 647 1274
( Well I'm sure that there is a few hundrends of paper on this subject ) I have a few ideas but it involve: .Dark Fiber; . All devices at FIPS 140 level; . Tonnes of resin; . Wire mesh; . Fiber DB monitoring; . Cable Shield monitoring; . Single Encryption Key injection for the FIPS 140 devices; . Central Provisioning; . Kill switch for suspected segments; <add your own crazy ideas> <etc> <add more of your own crazy ideas> And a private fab because it would not be a good idea to sub-contract that to lets says... some Chinese outfit =D TLDR: Feasable, hella costly. PS: http://spybusters.blogspot.ca/2010/11/fiber-optics-easier-to-wiretap-than.ht... Enjoy this week end of the world news. ----- Alain Hebert ahebert@pubnix.net PubNIX Inc. 50 boul. St-Charles P.O. Box 26770 Beaconsfield, Quebec H9W 6G7 Tel: 514-990-5911 http://www.pubnix.net Fax: 514-990-9443
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