Re: Google Wants to Create a Dotless Domain Called "Search"..?
On 4/11/13, Oliver Garraux <oliver@g.garraux.net> wrote:
The whole custom TLD thing is just a truly awful, awful idea.
--------- mysidia@gmail.com wrote: ------------------- From: Jimmy Hess <mysidia@gmail.com> Agreed; but it would seem that unstoppable forces have been set into motion by ICANN, to cause it to happen, regardless of whether it is beneficial to the community, and regardless of any objections from the public... ---------------------------------------------- I believe that unstoppable force is called the want of money. scott
On 04/12/2013 04:10 PM, Scott Weeks wrote:
On 4/11/13, Oliver Garraux <oliver@g.garraux.net> wrote:
The whole custom TLD thing is just a truly awful, awful idea.
--------- mysidia@gmail.com wrote: ------------------- From: Jimmy Hess <mysidia@gmail.com>
Agreed; but it would seem that unstoppable forces have been set into motion by ICANN, to cause it to happen, regardless of whether it is beneficial to the community, and regardless of any objections from the public... ----------------------------------------------
I believe that unstoppable force is called the want of money.
The ICANN board, and to some extent the staff, rather vigorously opposed the further expansion of the TLD space after what can only charitably be described as the modest success of the 2000 round names (of which INFO was the only standout of the seven, and the only one which continues to hold its own). However, the pressure from the community was overwhelming to open up the process again, and continued unabated from a time even before the 2000 round was closed. Whatever criticisms you can lay at the feet of ICANN, especially in recent years, "greed for new TLDs" is not one of them. Disclaimer, I followed the ICANN process closely from the beginning, and was a founding member of the SSAC from 2001 until I joined the staff in 2003. I left the ICANN staff in 2005, but remain deeply interested in what it does, and how it does it. Doug
On 4/12/13 9:29 PM, Doug Barton wrote:
Whatever criticisms you can lay at the feet of ICANN, especially in recent years, "greed for new TLDs" is not one of them.
Hmmm. Many people would disagree with that, based on episodes like this: http://domainincite.com/5212-calls-to-fix-new-gtld-revolving-door-at-icann -- Robert L Mathews, Tiger Technologies, http://www.tigertech.net/
The Internet already have a problem with "one of everything" where a single provider is much more popular than the other ones. Amazon, Google, Reddit, Wikipedia... The 2th cooperative encyclopedia editing website is much less popular than Wikipedia. This is not a good thing, is a bad thing since we are at the infancy of everything, there are a million things to try, learn, invent and explore. The average user visit the same 4 websites again and again every day.. not knowing the next door has something cool to offer, and really need visitors. What is the problem that people is trying to solve here? is this the correct place to solve it?, If is a usability problem in the browser, maybe the solution is more how browsers are build and how to function. Maybe browsers creators need to be more creative!. Maybe the current browser implementation and UI standards are shit. Do we need a internet-wide solution?, maybe just making the protocol "search://" redirect to a default search engine passing the term will solve the same problem ( search://tabacco => http://www.google.com/?q=tabacco ) -- -- ℱin del ℳensaje.
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From: "." <oscar.vives@gmail.com>
What is the problem that people is trying to solve here? is this the correct place to solve it?
Wow; really? The problem is "Google isn't *quite* a monopoly, yet, and we'd like to be, even though that's evil". And the answer is "no, it's not". In general: no, no one should be allowed to operate a registry for a public domain for "internal" use, and no one should be allowed to put an A record on a one-element gTLD. Cheers, -- jr 'what, me? opinionated?' a -- Jay R. Ashworth Baylink jra@baylink.com Designer The Things I Think RFC 2100 Ashworth & Associates http://baylink.pitas.com 2000 Land Rover DII St Petersburg FL USA #natog +1 727 647 1274
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