Academic Paper - ISPs Sharing Long Haul Infrastructure in the USN
This might of interest to network engineers seeking to ensure their upstreams are physical diverse. http://pages.cs.wisc.edu/~pb/tubes_final.pdf Roderick Beck Sales - Europe and the Americas Hibernia Networks http://www.hibernianetworks.com Budapest and New York This e-mail and any attachments thereto is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may be proprietary and/or legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email, and any attachments thereto, without the prior written permission of the sender is strictly prohibited. If you receive this e-mail in error, please immediately telephone or e-mail the sender and permanently delete the original copy and any copy of this e-mail, and any printout thereof. All documents, contracts or agreements referred or attached to this e-mail are SUBJECT TO CONTRACT. The contents of an attachment to this e-mail may contain software viruses that could damage your own computer system. While Hibernia Networks has taken every reasonable precaution to minimize this risk, we cannot accept liability for any damage that you sustain as a result of software viruses. You should carry out your own virus checks before opening any attachment.
Thanks for this. I've had physical diversity on my mind lately so this was helpful. On Mon, Sep 21, 2015 at 8:02 AM, Rod Beck <Rod.Beck@hibernianetworks.com> wrote:
This might of interest to network engineers seeking to ensure their upstreams are physical diverse.
On Mon, Sep 21, 2015 at 12:24 PM, Ian Clark <ian.clark@dreamhost.com> wrote:
Thanks for this. I've had physical diversity on my mind lately so this was helpful.
On Mon, Sep 21, 2015 at 8:02 AM, Rod Beck <Rod.Beck@hibernianetworks.com> wrote:
This might of interest to network engineers seeking to ensure their upstreams are physical diverse.
<cough> paper from sales person of longhaul meets expectations</cough> (mostly joking... but still)
Academics face a severe challenge in gaining access to fiber maps since the industry classifies virtually everything as proprietary. If you know a better paper, please post it. Roderick Beck Sales - Europe and the Americas Hibernia Networks This e-mail and any attachments thereto is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may be proprietary and/or legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email, and any attachments thereto, without the prior written permission of the sender is strictly prohibited. If you receive this e-mail in error, please immediately telephone or e-mail the sender and permanently delete the original copy and any copy of this e-mail, and any printout thereof. All documents, contracts or agreements referred or attached to this e-mail are SUBJECT TO CONTRACT. The contents of an attachment to this e-mail may contain software viruses that could damage your own computer system. While Hibernia Networks has taken every reasonable precaution to minimize this risk, we cannot accept liability for any damage that you sustain as a result of software viruses. You should carry out your own virus checks before opening any attachment.
On Mon, Sep 21, 2015 at 1:56 PM, Rod Beck <Rod.Beck@hibernianetworks.com> wrote:
Academics face a severe challenge in gaining access to fiber maps since the industry classifies virtually everything as proprietary. If you know a better paper, please post it.
I don't, which was part of why I was joking.
Roderick Beck Sales - Europe and the Americas Hibernia Networks This e-mail and any attachments thereto is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may be proprietary and/or legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email, and any attachments thereto, without the prior written permission of the sender is strictly prohibited. If you receive this e-mail in error, please immediately telephone or e-mail the sender and permanently delete the original copy and any copy of this e-mail, and any printout thereof. All documents, contracts or agreements referred or attached to this e-mail are SUBJECT TO CONTRACT. The contents of an attachment to this e-mail may contain software viruses that could damage your own computer system. While Hibernia Networks has taken every reasonable precaution to minimize this risk, we cannot accept liability for any damage that you sustain as a result of software viruses. You should carry out your own virus checks before opening any attachment.
On Mon, 21 Sep 2015, Christopher Morrow wrote:
On Mon, Sep 21, 2015 at 1:56 PM, Rod Beck <Rod.Beck@hibernianetworks.com> wrote:
Academics face a severe challenge in gaining access to fiber maps since the industry classifies virtually everything as proprietary. If you know a better paper, please post it.
I don't, which was part of why I was joking.
The ATIS final report on the National Diversity Assurance Iniative is decent. ATIS had access to proprietary carrier maps and personnel to check things on the ground. Unfortunately, the NDAI report seems to have disappeared down the Internet memory hole of dead links. http://www.atis.org/ndai It could be summarized as "Circuit route diversity sucks." The only thing worse than circuit route diversity were the processes to assure diverse circuit orders stayed diverse.
On 9/21/2015 2:31 PM, Sean Donelan wrote:
The ATIS final report on the National Diversity Assurance Iniative is decent. ATIS had access to proprietary carrier maps and personnel to check things on the ground. Unfortunately, the NDAI report seems to have disappeared down the Internet memory hole of dead links.
It could be summarized as "Circuit route diversity sucks." The only thing worse than circuit route diversity were the processes to assure diverse circuit orders stayed diverse.
Sean: FCC' Clearinghouse has a copy (2006) ... here: https://transition.fcc.gov/bureaus/pshs/docs/clearinghouse/ATIS_NDAI_Final_R...
On Mon, 21 Sep 2015, Sean Donelan wrote:
It could be summarized as "Circuit route diversity sucks." The only thing worse than circuit route diversity were the processes to assure diverse circuit orders stayed diverse.
No small feat when carriers re-groom circuits and don't bother to tell anyone, beyond *maybe* a cryptic notification regarding "maintenance on your service". jms
Undersea is a lot easier since cables pose safety threats. Any fishing organization will have maps of where the undersea cables are located. http://www.kis-orca.eu/map#.VgBHpJdS3IU Roderick Beck Sales - Europe and the Americas Hibernia Networks http://www.hibernianetworks.com This e-mail and any attachments thereto is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may be proprietary and/or legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email, and any attachments thereto, without the prior written permission of the sender is strictly prohibited. If you receive this e-mail in error, please immediately telephone or e-mail the sender and permanently delete the original copy and any copy of this e-mail, and any printout thereof. All documents, contracts or agreements referred or attached to this e-mail are SUBJECT TO CONTRACT. The contents of an attachment to this e-mail may contain software viruses that could damage your own computer system. While Hibernia Networks has taken every reasonable precaution to minimize this risk, we cannot accept liability for any damage that you sustain as a result of software viruses. You should carry out your own virus checks before opening any attachment.
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