OK. You need photo-id to get your boarding pass. Since I always use e-tickets, the boarding pass is the only "paper" involved.
Under normal circumstances for flights within the US the FAA seems not to require ANY form of ID. It's many of the *airlines* that require ID, supposedly in the name of security, but mainly to keep people from using other people's tickets. Continental does not enforce an ID requirement at SFO, for instance. You stick your credit or frequent flyer card in the machine and it spits out your boarding pass, which you then hand to the gate agent.
On Wed, Sep 12, 2001 at 02:54:17PM -0700, Eliot Lear wrote:
OK. You need photo-id to get your boarding pass. Since I always use e-tickets, the boarding pass is the only "paper" involved.
Under normal circumstances for flights within the US the FAA seems not to require ANY form of ID. It's many of the *airlines* that require ID, supposedly in the name of security, but mainly to keep people from using other people's tickets. Continental does not enforce an ID requirement at SFO, for instance. You stick your credit or frequent flyer card in the machine and it spits out your boarding pass, which you then hand to the gate agent.
some airlines allow you to check-in for flights at home (as well as using these e-machines). It will be interesting to see if they are unable to use these machines and services due to (new) FAA requirements. - Jared -- Jared Mauch | pgp key available via finger from jared@puck.nether.net clue++; | http://puck.nether.net/~jared/ My statements are only mine.
E-tickets are history, per NPR... -- A host is a host from coast to coast.................wb8foz@nrk.com & no one will talk to a host that's close........[v].(301) 56-LINUX Unless the host (that isn't close).........................pob 1433 is busy, hung or dead....................................20915-1433
At 07:51 PM 9/12/2001 -0400, David Lesher wrote:
E-tickets are history, per NPR...
Why? Who cares if they mail you a paper ticket, as long as you are checked for weapons before getting on the plane? And if they are worried about ID, mailing you a paper ticket will not help, ID will still have to be checked at the airport. This is getting silly. They are talking about removing all the plastic knives for "security". What's next? No pens? (You might stab someone.) And certainly no laptops! (You might bash the pilot over the head.) And I hope you like eating soup & jello, since you cannot have forks. (You might stick someone in the eye.) Grrrr. US Airport security was a joke, and we all knew it. Please tighten it, but do not be ridiculous about it. Other countries seem to let people fly without these pathetic rules. Perhaps we should ask them instead of making up silly rules. -- TTFN, patrick
Patrick W. Gilmore wrote:
At 07:51 PM 9/12/2001 -0400, David Lesher wrote:
E-tickets are history, per NPR...
Why? Who cares if they mail you a paper ticket, as long as you are checked for weapons before getting on the plane? And if they are worried about ID, mailing you a paper ticket will not help, ID will still have to be checked at the airport.
This is getting silly. They are talking about removing all the plastic knives for "security". What's next? No pens? (You might stab someone.) And certainly no laptops! (You might bash the pilot over the head.) And I hope you like eating soup & jello, since you cannot have forks. (You might stick someone in the eye.)
Grrrr. US Airport security was a joke, and we all knew it. Please tighten it, but do not be ridiculous about it.
Other countries seem to let people fly without these pathetic rules. Perhaps we should ask them instead of making up silly rules.
Il-Al, the Israeli national airline, has a armed policemen/solder called the "cowboy" on all flights. We used to have Air Marshals on domestic flights but the FAA scaled back to only having some Sky Marshals on international flights. People are talking about separate entrances for the pilots and other solutions that would need a total redesign of the airplane... What's so hard about putting the Air Marshals back on domestic flights again? Hell, what's so hard about giving the *pilot* a frigging gun in a lock box? If the lock box gets opened--the plane's transponder starts sending a sos out. Two birds with one stone... That still does not fix the real problem: What do you do with people who want to destroy the West and are willing to kill everybody including themselves to do it...??? /herb
Eliot Lear wrote:
OK. You need photo-id to get your boarding pass. Since I always use e-tickets, the boarding pass is the only "paper" involved.
Under normal circumstances for flights within the US the FAA seems not to require ANY form of ID. It's many of the *airlines* that require ID, supposedly in the name of security, but mainly to keep people from using other people's tickets. Continental does not enforce an ID requirement at SFO, for instance. You stick your credit or frequent flyer card in the machine and it spits out your boarding pass, which you then hand to the gate agent.
Even if you did require photo ID for the boarding pass.. I can't recall a flight in last several years where I was asked to present photo ID and boarding pass when entering the jet way.
If you're committing suicide, identifying yourself may not be an issue. One good thing with strong authentication is that the ones pulling the "strings" (still alive), may be traceable.
-----Original Message----- From: owner-nanog@merit.edu [mailto:owner-nanog@merit.edu]On Behalf Of Christian Kuhtz Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 6:41 PM To: Eliot Lear Cc: John Fraizer; nanog@merit.edu Subject: Re: OT Re: Analysis from a JHU CS Prof
Eliot Lear wrote:
OK. You need photo-id to get your boarding pass. Since I always use e-tickets, the boarding pass is the only "paper" involved.
Under normal circumstances for flights within the US the FAA seems not to require ANY form of ID. It's many of the *airlines* that require ID, supposedly in the name of security, but mainly to keep people from using other people's tickets. Continental does not enforce an ID requirement at SFO, for instance. You stick your credit or frequent flyer card in the machine and it spits out your boarding pass, which you then hand to the gate agent.
Even if you did require photo ID for the boarding pass.. I can't recall a flight in last several years where I was asked to present photo ID and boarding pass when entering the jet way.
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