Happy Monday. This seems to me to be equivalent (and bad for the same reasons) to cable companies and/or ISPs being co-owned with program providers. http://www.zdnet.com/article/oracle-acquires-dns-provider-dyn-to-take-on-ama... How will this affect *your* operations planning, if at all? Am I being overly cynical about Larry Ellison? :-) Cheers, -- jra -- Jay R. Ashworth Baylink jra@baylink.com Designer The Things I Think RFC 2100 Ashworth & Associates http://www.bcp38.info 2000 Land Rover DII St Petersburg FL USA BCP38: Ask For It By Name! +1 727 647 1274
Don't blame ya I'm a little negative on this one too as I can already "assume" specialized DNS integration with oracle products among possibly ?oracle cloud? Structures spawning up for competition with AWS, Azure ... others but these are just speculations. -- Onward!, Jason Hellenthal, Systems & Network Admin, Mobile: 0x9CA0BD58, JJH48-ARIN On Nov 21, 2016, at 10:26, Jay R. Ashworth <jra@baylink.com> wrote: Happy Monday. This seems to me to be equivalent (and bad for the same reasons) to cable companies and/or ISPs being co-owned with program providers. http://www.zdnet.com/article/oracle-acquires-dns-provider-dyn-to-take-on-ama... How will this affect *your* operations planning, if at all? Am I being overly cynical about Larry Ellison? :-) Cheers, -- jra -- Jay R. Ashworth Baylink jra@baylink.com Designer The Things I Think RFC 2100 Ashworth & Associates http://www.bcp38.info 2000 Land Rover DII St Petersburg FL USA BCP38: Ask For It By Name! +1 727 647 1274
I chuckled at "In September, after the release of Oracle's second-generation Infrastructure-as-a-Service (IaaS) datacenters, Oracle CTO Larry Ellison proclaimed that "Amazon's lead is over" in the cloud market." Eric On Nov 21 2016, at 12:18 pm, J. Hellenthal <jhellenthal@dataix.net> wrote:
Don't blame ya I'm a little negative on this one too as I can already "assume" specialized DNS integration with oracle products among possibly ?oracle cloud? Structures spawning up for competition with AWS, Azure ... others but these are just speculations.
\-- Onward!, Jason Hellenthal, Systems & Network Admin, Mobile: 0x9CA0BD58, JJH48-ARIN
On Nov 21, 2016, at 10:26, Jay R. Ashworth <jra@baylink.com> wrote:
Happy Monday.
This seems to me to be equivalent (and bad for the same reasons) to cable companies and/or ISPs being co-owned with program providers.
http://www.zdnet.com/article/oracle-acquires-dns-provider-dyn-to-take-on- amazons-lead-in-the-cloud
How will this affect *your* operations planning, if at all? Am I being overly cynical about Larry Ellison? :-)
Cheers, \-- jra
\-- Jay R. Ashworth Baylink jra@baylink.com Designer The Things I Think RFC 2100 Ashworth & Associates <http://www.bcp38.info> 2000 Land Rover DII St Petersburg FL USA BCP38: Ask For It By Name! +1 727 647 1274
Route53 just uses Dyn and Ultra. I would expect AWS to roll out their own soon. On Mon, Nov 21, 2016 at 12:18 PM, J. Hellenthal <jhellenthal@dataix.net> wrote:
Don't blame ya I'm a little negative on this one too as I can already "assume" specialized DNS integration with oracle products among possibly ?oracle cloud? Structures spawning up for competition with AWS, Azure ... others but these are just speculations.
-- Onward!, Jason Hellenthal, Systems & Network Admin, Mobile: 0x9CA0BD58, JJH48-ARIN
On Nov 21, 2016, at 10:26, Jay R. Ashworth <jra@baylink.com> wrote:
Happy Monday.
This seems to me to be equivalent (and bad for the same reasons) to cable companies and/or ISPs being co-owned with program providers.
http://www.zdnet.com/article/oracle-acquires-dns-provider- dyn-to-take-on-amazons-lead-in-the-cloud
How will this affect *your* operations planning, if at all? Am I being overly cynical about Larry Ellison? :-)
Cheers, -- jra
-- Jay R. Ashworth Baylink jra@baylink.com Designer The Things I Think RFC 2100 Ashworth & Associates http://www.bcp38.info 2000 Land Rover DII St Petersburg FL USA BCP38: Ask For It By Name! +1 727 647 1274
Lets just hope so, or Id think that the there will eventually be a price hike by AWS to compensate for Oracle’s outrageous costs. But again only speculation at this point.
On Nov 21, 2016, at 11:22, Akshay Kumar <akshay@mongodb.com> wrote:
Route53 just uses Dyn and Ultra. I would expect AWS to roll out their own soon.
On Mon, Nov 21, 2016 at 12:18 PM, J. Hellenthal <jhellenthal@dataix.net> wrote: Don't blame ya I'm a little negative on this one too as I can already "assume" specialized DNS integration with oracle products among possibly ?oracle cloud? Structures spawning up for competition with AWS, Azure ... others but these are just speculations.
-- Onward!, Jason Hellenthal, Systems & Network Admin, Mobile: 0x9CA0BD58, JJH48-ARIN
On Nov 21, 2016, at 10:26, Jay R. Ashworth <jra@baylink.com> wrote:
Happy Monday.
This seems to me to be equivalent (and bad for the same reasons) to cable companies and/or ISPs being co-owned with program providers.
http://www.zdnet.com/article/oracle-acquires-dns-provider-dyn-to-take-on-ama...
How will this affect *your* operations planning, if at all? Am I being overly cynical about Larry Ellison? :-)
Cheers, -- jra
-- Jay R. Ashworth Baylink jra@baylink.com Designer The Things I Think RFC 2100 Ashworth & Associates http://www.bcp38.info 2000 Land Rover DII St Petersburg FL USA BCP38: Ask For It By Name! +1 727 647 1274
-- Jason Hellenthal JJH48-ARIN
Oracle has exhibition booths at most web hosting events in Europe. They get very little traffic. Am skeptical they can be a player. - R. ________________________________ From: NANOG <nanog-bounces@nanog.org> on behalf of Jason Hellenthal <jhellenthal@dataix.net> Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 6:27 PM To: North American Network Operators' Group Subject: Re: Oracle buys... Dyn. Lets just hope so, or Id think that the there will eventually be a price hike by AWS to compensate for Oracle's outrageous costs. But again only speculation at this point.
On Nov 21, 2016, at 11:22, Akshay Kumar <akshay@mongodb.com> wrote:
Route53 just uses Dyn and Ultra. I would expect AWS to roll out their own soon.
On Mon, Nov 21, 2016 at 12:18 PM, J. Hellenthal <jhellenthal@dataix.net> wrote: Don't blame ya I'm a little negative on this one too as I can already "assume" specialized DNS integration with oracle products among possibly ?oracle cloud? Structures spawning up for competition with AWS, Azure ... others but these are just speculations.
-- Onward!, Jason Hellenthal, Systems & Network Admin, Mobile: 0x9CA0BD58, JJH48-ARIN
On Nov 21, 2016, at 10:26, Jay R. Ashworth <jra@baylink.com> wrote:
Happy Monday.
This seems to me to be equivalent (and bad for the same reasons) to cable companies and/or ISPs being co-owned with program providers.
http://www.zdnet.com/article/oracle-acquires-dns-provider-dyn-to-take-on-ama... [http://zdnet3.cbsistatic.com/hub/i/r/2016/11/21/28ab95ae-b687-4f4b-8caf-03c9062595ad/thumbnail/770x578/f50013e5a44bbde27721ff1b4d6e562f/screen-shot-2016-11-21-at-13-26-57.jpg]<http://www.zdnet.com/article/oracle-acquires-dns-provider-dyn-to-take-on-amazons-lead-in-the-cloud>
Oracle acquires DNS powerhouse Dyn to take on leading cloud players | ZDNet<http://www.zdnet.com/article/oracle-acquires-dns-provider-dyn-to-take-on-amazons-lead-in-the-cloud> www.zdnet.com Oracle is a strong player in the datacenter realm, but with this deal, perhaps Larry Ellison's cloud dreams are coming closer.
How will this affect *your* operations planning, if at all? Am I being overly cynical about Larry Ellison? :-)
Cheers, -- jra
-- Jay R. Ashworth Baylink jra@baylink.com Designer The Things I Think RFC 2100 Ashworth & Associates http://www.bcp38.info 2000 Land Rover DII St Petersburg FL USA BCP38: Ask For It By Name! +1 727 647 1274
-- Jason Hellenthal JJH48-ARIN
Yes false. Amazon do use dyn + others for their own domains in addition to their own Route 53 but Route 53 itself is a completely separate service. Kind Regards Lee Fuller (mobile) PGP: 4F58 D91E 3886 2AAA 26F5 17BD FA12 7914 8308 45D0 On 21 Nov 2016 6:16 pm, "Eli Lindsey" <eli@siliconsprawl.com> wrote:
On Nov 21, 2016, at 11:22, Akshay Kumar <akshay@mongodb.com> wrote:
Route53 just uses Dyn and Ultra. I would expect AWS to roll out their own soon.
This is completely false.
-eli
Yeah amazonaws.com NOT route53. On Mon, Nov 21, 2016 at 1:22 PM, Lee Fuller <leefuller23@gmail.com> wrote:
Yes false. Amazon do use dyn + others for their own domains in addition to their own Route 53 but Route 53 itself is a completely separate service.
Kind Regards
Lee Fuller (mobile) PGP: 4F58 D91E 3886 2AAA 26F5 17BD FA12 7914 8308 45D0
On 21 Nov 2016 6:16 pm, "Eli Lindsey" <eli@siliconsprawl.com> wrote:
On Nov 21, 2016, at 11:22, Akshay Kumar <akshay@mongodb.com> wrote:
Route53 just uses Dyn and Ultra. I would expect AWS to roll out their own soon.
This is completely false.
-eli
amazonaws.com is split Route 53/ultra - given resolver retry behavior and the impact of screwing up DNS, there's little reason not to use multiple providers on such a domain. However, most subdomains will delegate to R53 only (eg. dig +trace s3-us-west-1.amazonaws.com). None of this is related to Route 53 as a service. -eli On Mon, Nov 21, 2016, at 01:29 PM, Akshay Kumar wrote:
Yeah amazonaws.com NOT route53.
On Mon, Nov 21, 2016 at 1:22 PM, Lee Fuller <leefuller23@gmail.com> wrote:
Yes false. Amazon do use dyn + others for their own domains in addition to their own Route 53 but Route 53 itself is a completely separate service. Kind Regards
Lee Fuller (mobile)
PGP: 4F58 D91E 3886 2AAA 26F5 17BD FA12 7914 8308 45D0
On 21 Nov 2016 6:16 pm, "Eli Lindsey" <eli@siliconsprawl.com> wrote:
On Nov 21, 2016, at 11:22, Akshay Kumar <akshay@mongodb.com> wrote:
Route53 just uses Dyn and Ultra. I would expect AWS to roll out their own soon.
This is completely false.
-eli
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