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So, if there's more than 4 billion ants... what are they going to do? Andrew On 4/5/2014 1:44 AM, Larry Sheldon wrote:
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On Sat, Apr 5, 2014 at 2:32 AM, Andrew D Kirch <trelane@trelane.net> wrote:
So, if there's more than 4 billion ants... what are they going to do?
there will never be more than 4 billion ants.
On 4/5/2014 1:44 AM, Larry Sheldon wrote:
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Large Scale aNt will be good enough. Plus this has security advantages. On Saturday, April 5, 2014, Jeff Kell <jeff-kell@utc.edu> wrote:
On 4/5/2014 2:32 AM, Andrew D Kirch wrote:
So, if there's more than 4 billion ants... what are they going to do?
Who knows, but they'll definitely need IPv6 :)
Jeff
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This has been a solved problem for a long time. You just need to implement Virtual Local Ant Nest (VLAN) and use overlapping local address schemes. On 4/5/2014 2:32 AM, Andrew D Kirch wrote:
So, if there's more than 4 billion ants... what are they going to do?
Andrew
On 4/5/2014 1:44 AM, Larry Sheldon wrote:
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On Tue, 6 May 2014, Dave Crocker wrote:
On 4/4/2014 11:32 PM, Andrew D Kirch wrote:
So, if there's more than 4 billion ants... what are they going to do?
get larger ants.
No, no. The solution is far simpler than that, and would probably give a good example of real-world population control. Just get an ant-eater.
(and the responses have now covered both pro forma responses.)
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On Sat, Apr 05, 2014 at 12:44:05AM -0500, Larry Sheldon <LarrySheldon@cox.net> wrote a message of 9 lines which said:
But what is the equivalent of 3-way handshake? And of ECN (ants carrying back messages "I still bring food but it won't last")? And the security implications (what prevent bad ants to disrupt the mechanism: ants did not invent random ISNs)? Is there a source quench mechanism or did the ants deprecate it long before RFC 6633? And what is the size of the initial window? Should we cancel all patents related to TCP because there is prior ant art? Many questions unanswered.
Ant algorithms are currently part of the communications infrastructure. Here is a recent paper, and see the reference in the paper about the Ant Based Control (ABC) algorithm that is used for circuit switched networks. Marc http://www.ijarcsse.com/docs/papers/Volume_3/3_March2013/V3I3-0125.pdf -----Original Message----- From: Larry Sheldon [mailto:LarrySheldon@cox.net] Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2014 1:44 AM To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Anternet Offered for your amusement--no followup. http://kottke.org/14/04/the-anternet -- Requiescas in pace o email Two identifying characteristics of System Administrators: Ex turpi causa non oritur actio Infallibility, and the ability to learn from their mistakes. (Adapted from Stephen Pinker)
On 5 April 2014 07:44, Larry Sheldon <LarrySheldon@cox.net> wrote:
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A forager won't return to the nest until it finds food. If seeds are plentiful, foragers return faster, and more ants leave the nest to forage. If, however, ants begin returning empty handed, the search is slowed, and perhaps called off. <<<<<<
No wonders ants don't govern us. This algorithm is atrocious. So if food is scarce, most ants will stay at home and play videogames all day, but if theres a lot of food, all of them will go around and return with mountains of food they can't store. Is a algorithm, from a madman, designed to kill the hive if theres very low food or too much food. I propose ants start using "food debts"/"food promises". Ants will print "food debts" to explorer ants, these explorer ants must "pay" these debts by finding food. If some ant need a lot of food, that ant will print more debt. The more food the hive need, more debt is printed. -- -- ℱin del ℳensaje.
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