IPv6 Residential Deployment Survey
NANOGers - If you are providing residential Internet service with IPv6 (or are a customer of same), please take a moment to complete Jordi’s survey - this will help provide insight into the actual technical practices being used in residential IPv6 deployment. More details in attached email - Thanks! /John Begin forwarded message: From: John Curran <jcurran@arin.net<mailto:jcurran@arin.net>> Subject: [arin-ppml] IPv6 Residential Deployment Survey Date: May 22, 2016 at 6:24:17 AM GMT+2 To: ARIN PPML <ppml@arin.net<mailto:ppml@arin.net>> Folks - Jordi Palet Martínez is conducting a brief survey regarding IPv6 deployment in residential Internet service. Having insight into the various practices that are in use may help to inform IPv6 number resource policy development, and thus I ask that you take a moment to complete the survey if you are providing such services (whether production or trial basis.) Jordi notes - "The results will be published and updated every month or so - No personal data will be published. (If you know your network, it takes less than 2 minutes to complete it) The survey can be responded even if is not yet a commercial service, and customers can also respond, not just the ISP. However, to avoid duplicate data, make sure to include the country and ISP name.” The IPv6 Residential Deployment Survey may be found here - <http://survey.consulintel.es/index.php/175122> Thanks! /John John Curran President and CEO ARIN
On Sun, May 22, 2016 at 04:32:11AM +0000, John Curran wrote:
NANOGers -
If you are providing residential Internet service with IPv6 (or are a customer of same), please take a moment to complete Jordi’s survey - this will help provide insight into the actual technical practices being used in residential IPv6 deployment.
John, Allow me to suggest an additional survey: If you're a customer of a provider that currently provides IPv6, and are not using it, please tell us why. In my case, on my consumer connection at home, I cannot utilize IPv6 because my provider does not wish to provide more than a /64 to a subscriber, and my equipment vendor (Juniper) does not support DHCPv6 PD delegation hints, so I'll always get a /64 that does not scale well to the >1 subnet I have internally. (4: Managment, Media, Guest, & Internal.) --msa
On May 22, 2016, at 9:04 AM, Majdi S. Abbas <msa@latt.net> wrote:
On Sun, May 22, 2016 at 04:32:11AM +0000, John Curran wrote:
NANOGers -
If you are providing residential Internet service with IPv6 (or are a customer of same), please take a moment to complete Jordi’s survey - this will help provide insight into the actual technical practices being used in residential IPv6 deployment.
John,
Allow me to suggest an additional survey:
If you're a customer of a provider that currently provides IPv6, and are not using it, please tell us why.
In my case, on my consumer connection at home, I cannot utilize IPv6 because my provider does not wish to provide more than a /64 to a subscriber, and my equipment vendor (Juniper) does not support DHCPv6 PD delegation hints, so I'll always get a /64 that does not scale well to the >1 subnet I have internally. (4: Managment, Media, Guest, & Internal.)
Majdi - You should definitely complete the survey accordingly… that’s the kind of technical feedback that I believe Jordi is trying to collect! /John
NANOGers , is there anyway for AAA to get special online subscriber usage information without enable interim accouting on BRAS? Reading through RADIUS protocol , it seems that if we want to get online subscriber information enable interim accounting on BRAS is the only way . But, if enable that on BRAS ,, all online subscribers accouting infromation will be reported periodically. that will generate too much load on AAA , and we need to monitor a small set of subscribers only. thanks in advance. joe sun
radius On Thu, Jan 24, 2019 at 10:37 AM aun Joe <sj_hznm@hotmail.com> wrote:
NANOGers ,
is there anyway for AAA to get special online subscriber usage information without enable interim accouting on BRAS?
Reading through RADIUS protocol , it seems that if we want to get online subscriber information enable interim accounting on BRAS is the only way . But, if enable that on BRAS ,, all online subscribers accouting infromation will be reported periodically. that will generate too much load on AAA , and we need to monitor a small set of subscribers only.
thanks in advance.
joe sun
Hi, I don't know what your scale is but setting a 15minute interim radius update has always worked well for me. A standard freeradius server running on SSD's would be able to handle the load from 100k users without too much of a load issue. Above that load balancing radius requests among servers is not really that difficult. From: NANOG <nanog-bounces@nanog.org> On Behalf Of aun Joe Sent: Thursday, 24 January 2019 9:28 PM To: NANOG <nanog@nanog.org> Subject: Any way to collect network usage data for dial-up subscriber NANOGers , is there anyway for AAA to get special online subscriber usage information without enable interim accouting on BRAS? Reading through RADIUS protocol , it seems that if we want to get online subscriber information enable interim accounting on BRAS is the only way . But, if enable that on BRAS ,, all online subscribers accouting infromation will be reported periodically. that will generate too much load on AAA , and we need to monitor a small set of subscribers only. thanks in advance. joe sun
The 'Next' button just keeps refreshing the initial page for me (Chrome, Linux). I was hoping there was an option in the survey for "I contacted my local monopoly^H^H^H^H^H provider, talked with their 'network guy' and asked about IPv6. He said he'd heard about it, but they probably won't going to even investigate it for 'a couple of years'". -A On Sat, May 21, 2016 at 9:32 PM, John Curran <jcurran@arin.net> wrote:
NANOGers -
If you are providing residential Internet service with IPv6 (or are a customer of same), please take a moment to complete Jordi’s survey - this will help provide insight into the actual technical practices being used in residential IPv6 deployment.
More details in attached email - Thanks! /John
Begin forwarded message:
From: John Curran <jcurran@arin.net<mailto:jcurran@arin.net>> Subject: [arin-ppml] IPv6 Residential Deployment Survey Date: May 22, 2016 at 6:24:17 AM GMT+2 To: ARIN PPML <ppml@arin.net<mailto:ppml@arin.net>>
Folks -
Jordi Palet Martínez is conducting a brief survey regarding IPv6 deployment in residential Internet service. Having insight into the various practices that are in use may help to inform IPv6 number resource policy development, and thus I ask that you take a moment to complete the survey if you are providing such services (whether production or trial basis.)
Jordi notes -
"The results will be published and updated every month or so - No personal data will be published.
(If you know your network, it takes less than 2 minutes to complete it) The survey can be responded even if is not yet a commercial service, and customers can also respond, not just the ISP. However, to avoid duplicate data, make sure to include the country and ISP name.”
The IPv6 Residential Deployment Survey may be found here - <http://survey.consulintel.es/index.php/175122>
Thanks! /John
John Curran President and CEO ARIN
Hi Aaron, Sorry to heard that. Is the first report I got about this problem (253 responses already and many using Chrome), so may be specific to Chrome+Linux, not sure if you have been able to try with another browser or OS. Regards, Jordi -----Mensaje original----- De: NANOG <nanog-bounces@nanog.org> en nombre de "Aaron C. de Bruyn" <aaron@heyaaron.com> Responder a: <aaron@heyaaron.com> Fecha: domingo, 22 de mayo de 2016, 20:15 Para: John Curran <jcurran@arin.net> CC: NANOG <nanog@nanog.org> Asunto: Re: IPv6 Residential Deployment Survey
The 'Next' button just keeps refreshing the initial page for me (Chrome, Linux).
I was hoping there was an option in the survey for "I contacted my local monopoly^H^H^H^H^H provider, talked with their 'network guy' and asked about IPv6. He said he'd heard about it, but they probably won't going to even investigate it for 'a couple of years'".
-A
On Sat, May 21, 2016 at 9:32 PM, John Curran <jcurran@arin.net> wrote:
NANOGers -
If you are providing residential Internet service with IPv6 (or are a customer of same), please take a moment to complete Jordi’s survey - this will help provide insight into the actual technical practices being used in residential IPv6 deployment.
More details in attached email - Thanks! /John
Begin forwarded message:
From: John Curran <jcurran@arin.net<mailto:jcurran@arin.net>> Subject: [arin-ppml] IPv6 Residential Deployment Survey Date: May 22, 2016 at 6:24:17 AM GMT+2 To: ARIN PPML <ppml@arin.net<mailto:ppml@arin.net>>
Folks -
Jordi Palet Martínez is conducting a brief survey regarding IPv6 deployment in residential Internet service. Having insight into the various practices that are in use may help to inform IPv6 number resource policy development, and thus I ask that you take a moment to complete the survey if you are providing such services (whether production or trial basis.)
Jordi notes -
"The results will be published and updated every month or so - No personal data will be published.
(If you know your network, it takes less than 2 minutes to complete it) The survey can be responded even if is not yet a commercial service, and customers can also respond, not just the ISP. However, to avoid duplicate data, make sure to include the country and ISP name.”
The IPv6 Residential Deployment Survey may be found here - <http://survey.consulintel.es/index.php/175122>
Thanks! /John
John Curran President and CEO ARIN
Did some digging, it's was being caused by a plugin. Thanks, -A On Sun, May 22, 2016 at 11:37 AM, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ < jordi.palet@consulintel.es> wrote:
Hi Aaron,
Sorry to heard that. Is the first report I got about this problem (253 responses already and many using Chrome), so may be specific to Chrome+Linux, not sure if you have been able to try with another browser or OS.
Regards, Jordi
-----Mensaje original----- De: NANOG <nanog-bounces@nanog.org> en nombre de "Aaron C. de Bruyn" < aaron@heyaaron.com> Responder a: <aaron@heyaaron.com> Fecha: domingo, 22 de mayo de 2016, 20:15 Para: John Curran <jcurran@arin.net> CC: NANOG <nanog@nanog.org> Asunto: Re: IPv6 Residential Deployment Survey
The 'Next' button just keeps refreshing the initial page for me (Chrome, Linux).
I was hoping there was an option in the survey for "I contacted my local monopoly^H^H^H^H^H provider, talked with their 'network guy' and asked about IPv6. He said he'd heard about it, but they probably won't going to even investigate it for 'a couple of years'".
-A
On Sat, May 21, 2016 at 9:32 PM, John Curran <jcurran@arin.net> wrote:
NANOGers -
If you are providing residential Internet service with IPv6 (or are a customer of same), please take a moment to complete Jordi’s survey - this will help provide insight into the actual technical practices being used in residential IPv6 deployment.
More details in attached email - Thanks! /John
Begin forwarded message:
From: John Curran <jcurran@arin.net<mailto:jcurran@arin.net>> Subject: [arin-ppml] IPv6 Residential Deployment Survey Date: May 22, 2016 at 6:24:17 AM GMT+2 To: ARIN PPML <ppml@arin.net<mailto:ppml@arin.net>>
Folks -
Jordi Palet Martínez is conducting a brief survey regarding IPv6 deployment in residential Internet service. Having insight into the various practices that are in use may help to inform IPv6 number resource policy development, and thus I ask that you take a moment to complete the survey if you are providing such services (whether production or trial basis.)
Jordi notes -
"The results will be published and updated every month or so - No personal data will be published.
(If you know your network, it takes less than 2 minutes to complete it) The survey can be responded even if is not yet a commercial service, and customers can also respond, not just the ISP. However, to avoid duplicate data, make sure to include the country and ISP name.”
The IPv6 Residential Deployment Survey may be found here - <http://survey.consulintel.es/index.php/175122>
Thanks! /John
John Curran President and CEO ARIN
Thanks a lot ¡ Saludos, Jordi -----Mensaje original----- De: "Aaron C. de Bruyn" <aaron@heyaaron.com> Responder a: <aaron@heyaaron.com> Fecha: domingo, 22 de mayo de 2016, 22:11 Para: Jordi Palet Martinez <jordi.palet@consulintel.es> CC: John Curran <jcurran@arin.net>, NANOG <nanog@nanog.org> Asunto: Re: IPv6 Residential Deployment Survey
Did some digging, it's was being caused by a plugin. Thanks,
-A
On Sun, May 22, 2016 at 11:37 AM, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ <jordi.palet@consulintel.es> wrote:
Hi Aaron,
Sorry to heard that. Is the first report I got about this problem (253 responses already and many using Chrome), so may be specific to Chrome+Linux, not sure if you have been able to try with another browser or OS.
Regards, Jordi
-----Mensaje original----- De: NANOG <nanog-bounces@nanog.org> en nombre de "Aaron C. de Bruyn" <aaron@heyaaron.com> Responder a: <aaron@heyaaron.com> Fecha: domingo, 22 de mayo de 2016, 20:15 Para: John Curran <jcurran@arin.net> CC: NANOG <nanog@nanog.org> Asunto: Re: IPv6 Residential Deployment Survey
The 'Next' button just keeps refreshing the initial page for me (Chrome, Linux).
I was hoping there was an option in the survey for "I contacted my local monopoly^H^H^H^H^H provider, talked with their 'network guy' and asked about IPv6. He said he'd heard about it, but they probably won't going to even investigate it for 'a couple of years'".
-A
On Sat, May 21, 2016 at 9:32 PM, John Curran <jcurran@arin.net> wrote:
NANOGers -
If you are providing residential Internet service with IPv6 (or are a customer of same), please take a moment to complete Jordi’s survey - this will help provide insight into the actual technical practices being used in residential IPv6 deployment.
More details in attached email - Thanks! /John
Begin forwarded message:
From: John Curran <jcurran@arin.net<mailto:jcurran@arin.net>> Subject: [arin-ppml] IPv6 Residential Deployment Survey Date: May 22, 2016 at 6:24:17 AM GMT+2 To: ARIN PPML <ppml@arin.net<mailto:ppml@arin.net>>
Folks -
Jordi Palet Martínez is conducting a brief survey regarding IPv6 deployment in residential Internet service. Having insight into the various practices that are in use may help to inform IPv6 number resource policy development, and thus I ask that you take a moment to complete the survey if you are providing such services (whether production or trial basis.)
Jordi notes -
"The results will be published and updated every month or so - No personal data will be published.
(If you know your network, it takes less than 2 minutes to complete it) The survey can be responded even if is not yet a commercial service, and customers can also respond, not just the ISP. However, to avoid duplicate data, make sure to include the country and ISP name.”
The IPv6 Residential Deployment Survey may be found here - <http://survey.consulintel.es/index.php/175122>
Thanks! /John
John Curran President and CEO ARIN
Hi, My business provider (Shentel) doesn't even offer IPv6. I have asked repeatedly. Gary
-----Original Message----- From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-bounces@nanog.org] On Behalf Of John Curran Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 12:32 AM To: NANOG Subject: IPv6 Residential Deployment Survey
NANOGers -
If you are providing residential Internet service with IPv6 (or are a customer of same), please take a moment to complete Jordi’s survey - this will help provide insight into the actual technical practices being used in residential IPv6 deployment.
More details in attached email - Thanks! /John
Begin forwarded message:
From: John Curran <jcurran@arin.net<mailto:jcurran@arin.net>> Subject: [arin-ppml] IPv6 Residential Deployment Survey Date: May 22, 2016 at 6:24:17 AM GMT+2 To: ARIN PPML <ppml@arin.net<mailto:ppml@arin.net>>
Folks -
Jordi Palet Martínez is conducting a brief survey regarding IPv6 deployment in residential Internet service. Having insight into the various practices that are in use may help to inform IPv6 number resource policy development, and thus I ask that you take a moment to complete the survey if you are providing such services (whether production or trial basis.)
Jordi notes -
"The results will be published and updated every month or so - No personal data will be published.
(If you know your network, it takes less than 2 minutes to complete it) The survey can be responded even if is not yet a commercial service, and customers can also respond, not just the ISP. However, to avoid duplicate data, make sure to include the country and ISP name.”
The IPv6 Residential Deployment Survey may be found here - <http://survey.consulintel.es/index.php/175122>
Thanks! /John
John Curran President and CEO ARIN
Got as far as the second page, where I was met by the question "What technology is used for the customer link ? Choose one of the following answers " Come on... One technology per ISP? In what world is that? Bjørn John Curran <jcurran@arin.net> writes:
NANOGers -
If you are providing residential Internet service with IPv6 (or are a customer of same), please take a moment to complete Jordi’s survey - this will help provide insight into the actual technical practices being used in residential IPv6 deployment.
More details in attached email - Thanks! /John
Begin forwarded message:
From: John Curran <jcurran@arin.net<mailto:jcurran@arin.net>> Subject: [arin-ppml] IPv6 Residential Deployment Survey Date: May 22, 2016 at 6:24:17 AM GMT+2 To: ARIN PPML <ppml@arin.net<mailto:ppml@arin.net>>
Folks -
Jordi Palet Martínez is conducting a brief survey regarding IPv6 deployment in residential Internet service. Having insight into the various practices that are in use may help to inform IPv6 number resource policy development, and thus I ask that you take a moment to complete the survey if you are providing such services (whether production or trial basis.)
Jordi notes -
"The results will be published and updated every month or so - No personal data will be published.
(If you know your network, it takes less than 2 minutes to complete it) The survey can be responded even if is not yet a commercial service, and customers can also respond, not just the ISP. However, to avoid duplicate data, make sure to include the country and ISP name.”
The IPv6 Residential Deployment Survey may be found here - <http://survey.consulintel.es/index.php/175122>
Thanks! /John
John Curran President and CEO ARIN
Hi, The intend is to make the survey simple, so in that case, you have two choices: 1) The same IPv6 services by means of DSL and FTTH (example), then you can use “other” and indicate that. 2) Different IPv6 services with different access technology, then you better fill one survey for each technology. After initial responses in a “smaller” survey via simple email, it was considered that case 2 is most common, so I didn't considered, to simplify stats, to be able to choose simultaneously several technologies. Regards, Jordi -----Mensaje original----- De: NANOG <nanog-bounces@nanog.org> en nombre de Bjørn Mork <bjorn@mork.no> Organización: m Responder a: <bjorn@mork.no> Fecha: lunes, 23 de mayo de 2016, 15:34 Para: John Curran <jcurran@arin.net> CC: NANOG <nanog@nanog.org> Asunto: Re: IPv6 Residential Deployment Survey
Got as far as the second page, where I was met by the question
"What technology is used for the customer link ? Choose one of the following answers "
Come on... One technology per ISP? In what world is that?
Bjørn
John Curran <jcurran@arin.net> writes:
NANOGers -
If you are providing residential Internet service with IPv6 (or are a customer of same), please take a moment to complete Jordi’s survey - this will help provide insight into the actual technical practices being used in residential IPv6 deployment.
More details in attached email - Thanks! /John
Begin forwarded message:
From: John Curran <jcurran@arin.net<mailto:jcurran@arin.net>> Subject: [arin-ppml] IPv6 Residential Deployment Survey Date: May 22, 2016 at 6:24:17 AM GMT+2 To: ARIN PPML <ppml@arin.net<mailto:ppml@arin.net>>
Folks -
Jordi Palet Martínez is conducting a brief survey regarding IPv6 deployment in residential Internet service. Having insight into the various practices that are in use may help to inform IPv6 number resource policy development, and thus I ask that you take a moment to complete the survey if you are providing such services (whether production or trial basis.)
Jordi notes -
"The results will be published and updated every month or so - No personal data will be published.
(If you know your network, it takes less than 2 minutes to complete it) The survey can be responded even if is not yet a commercial service, and customers can also respond, not just the ISP. However, to avoid duplicate data, make sure to include the country and ISP name.”
The IPv6 Residential Deployment Survey may be found here - <http://survey.consulintel.es/index.php/175122>
Thanks! /John
John Curran President and CEO ARIN
On Mon, May 23, 2016 at 9:34 AM, Bjørn Mork <bjorn@mork.no> wrote:
Got as far as the second page, where I was met by the question
"What technology is used for the customer link ? Choose one of the following answers "
Come on... One technology per ISP? In what world is that?
isn't this one answer stream per individual? so YOUR link at YOUR home is X-type. YOUR link at YOUR office/coffee-shop could be Y-type. you just need to answer the survey a few times...
On Mon, May 23, 2016 at 10:14 AM, Christopher Morrow < morrowc.lists@gmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, May 23, 2016 at 9:34 AM, Bjørn Mork <bjorn@mork.no> wrote:
Got as far as the second page, where I was met by the question
"What technology is used for the customer link ? Choose one of the following answers "
Come on... One technology per ISP? In what world is that?
isn't this one answer stream per individual? so YOUR link at YOUR home is X-type. YOUR link at YOUR office/coffee-shop could be Y-type.
you just need to answer the survey a few times...
ha! sorry... question 3: Pre-commercial/Commercial Service Is IPv6 already part of your commercial service ? "no" and question 4 is: "What ipv6 configuraiton for your WAN link?" err.. I said no to the previous question...
This is done so if you are part of a trial can keep answering. Otherwise, no sense to keep going, I guess … In other words, if you don’t offer IPv6 you must not answer to the survey … Saludos, Jordi -----Mensaje original----- De: NANOG <nanog-bounces@nanog.org> en nombre de Christopher Morrow <morrowc.lists@gmail.com> Responder a: <morrowc.lists@gmail.com> Fecha: lunes, 23 de mayo de 2016, 16:15 Para: Bjørn Mork <bjorn@mork.no> CC: John Curran <jcurran@arin.net>, NANOG <nanog@nanog.org> Asunto: Re: IPv6 Residential Deployment Survey
On Mon, May 23, 2016 at 10:14 AM, Christopher Morrow < morrowc.lists@gmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, May 23, 2016 at 9:34 AM, Bjørn Mork <bjorn@mork.no> wrote:
Got as far as the second page, where I was met by the question
"What technology is used for the customer link ? Choose one of the following answers "
Come on... One technology per ISP? In what world is that?
isn't this one answer stream per individual? so YOUR link at YOUR home is X-type. YOUR link at YOUR office/coffee-shop could be Y-type.
you just need to answer the survey a few times...
ha! sorry... question 3: Pre-commercial/Commercial Service Is IPv6 already part of your commercial service ?
"no"
and question 4 is: "What ipv6 configuraiton for your WAN link?"
err.. I said no to the previous question...
On Mon, May 23, 2016 at 10:47 AM, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ < jordi.palet@consulintel.es> wrote:
This is done so if you are part of a trial can keep answering. Otherwise, no sense to keep going, I guess …
In other words, if you don’t offer IPv6 you must not answer to the survey …
'don't offer' from the perspective of a client is really: "Did not get" i filled in the survey as a client of the ISP.
Saludos, Jordi
-----Mensaje original----- De: NANOG <nanog-bounces@nanog.org> en nombre de Christopher Morrow < morrowc.lists@gmail.com> Responder a: <morrowc.lists@gmail.com> Fecha: lunes, 23 de mayo de 2016, 16:15 Para: Bjørn Mork <bjorn@mork.no> CC: John Curran <jcurran@arin.net>, NANOG <nanog@nanog.org> Asunto: Re: IPv6 Residential Deployment Survey
On Mon, May 23, 2016 at 10:14 AM, Christopher Morrow < morrowc.lists@gmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, May 23, 2016 at 9:34 AM, Bjørn Mork <bjorn@mork.no> wrote:
Got as far as the second page, where I was met by the question
"What technology is used for the customer link ? Choose one of the following answers "
Come on... One technology per ISP? In what world is that?
isn't this one answer stream per individual? so YOUR link at YOUR home
is
X-type. YOUR link at YOUR office/coffee-shop could be Y-type.
you just need to answer the survey a few times...
ha! sorry... question 3: Pre-commercial/Commercial Service Is IPv6 already part of your commercial service ?
"no"
and question 4 is: "What ipv6 configuraiton for your WAN link?"
err.. I said no to the previous question...
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Tony Wicks