So... my colo was just bought.
By Knology. Should I be scared? My experiences with Knology have been fairly thin, but uniformly negative, for at least the last 5 years. But I know that the plural of 'anecdote' is not 'data'. That said, I'm accepting all anecdotes. :-) Cheers, -- jra -- Jay R. Ashworth Baylink jra@baylink.com Designer The Things I Think RFC 2100 Ashworth & Associates http://baylink.pitas.com 2000 Land Rover DII St Petersburg FL USA http://photo.imageinc.us +1 727 647 1274
Jay, Do you know if they'll be keeping/maintaining your colo? Or is it too early for that kind of information? -Hammer- "I was a normal American nerd" -Jack Herer On 1/10/2012 9:58 AM, Jay Ashworth wrote:
By Knology.
Should I be scared?
My experiences with Knology have been fairly thin, but uniformly negative, for at least the last 5 years. But I know that the plural of 'anecdote' is not 'data'. That said, I'm accepting all anecdotes. :-)
Cheers, -- jra
Jay- We experianced a similar situation 5 or 6 years ago. We were in a SAS70-II colo that had great staff and an impressive track record. They were national, but not huge. When we picked them, we had two colo providers that were competing for our business. The other was the company that bought our colo. In the end, we made our decision not on price/options, but we felt the smaller company would give us better service. We were right. The new owners are enormous and corprate thinks they are the best thing since sliced bread. I can tell you they are not. Since the buyout, we have had too many account reps to count on one hand, they are never local and they never seem to care. Getting anything done inside the DC is so complicated we almost never use our remote hands. Even getting into the DC now takes 15 minutes because of all the checks we have to go through. Unfortuneatly where I am located there are only 2 colos that can provide 15kw/rack reliably, and one company owns both of them. -----Original Message----- From: Jay Ashworth [mailto:jra@baylink.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2012 9:58 AM To: NANOG Subject: So... my colo was just bought. By Knology. Should I be scared? My experiences with Knology have been fairly thin, but uniformly negative, for at least the last 5 years. But I know that the plural of 'anecdote' is not 'data'. That said, I'm accepting all anecdotes. :-) Cheers, -- jra -- Jay R. Ashworth Baylink jra@baylink.com Designer The Things I Think RFC 2100 Ashworth & Associates http://baylink.pitas.com 2000 Land Rover DII St Petersburg FL USA http://photo.imageinc.us +1 727 647 1274
In the 2002-2003 time frame I worked for a company that colo'd strategic business servers in various telco facilities (big names, some that are still in business today), but these telco's had no problem with closing down the colo and giving 6 months notice to all tenants, with very little advanced notice. So this created a situation where a replacement site had to be found, space leased, equipment purchased, network bandwidth negotiated and purchased, etc. within that 6 month timeframe, or face the consequences of being essentially out of business. I can't speak for the company that is the subject of the email though, only of what has happened to me in the past. -----Original Message----- From: Jay Ashworth [mailto:jra@baylink.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2012 7:58 AM To: NANOG Subject: So... my colo was just bought. By Knology. Should I be scared? My experiences with Knology have been fairly thin, but uniformly negative, for at least the last 5 years. But I know that the plural of 'anecdote' is not 'data'. That said, I'm accepting all anecdotes. :-) Cheers, -- jra -- Jay R. Ashworth Baylink jra@baylink.com Designer The Things I Think RFC 2100 Ashworth & Associates http://baylink.pitas.com 2000 Land Rover DII St Petersburg FL USA http://photo.imageinc.us +1 727 647 1274 This communication, together with any attachments or embedded links, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain information that is confidential or legally protected. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any review, disclosure, copying, dissemination, distribution or use of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail message and delete the original and all copies of the communication, along with any attachments or embedded links, from your system.
On 1/10/2012 10:58 AM, Jay Ashworth wrote:
By Knology.
Should I be scared?
My experiences with Knology have been fairly thin, but uniformly negative, for at least the last 5 years. But I know that the plural of 'anecdote' is not 'data'. That said, I'm accepting all anecdotes. :-)
Cheers, -- jra
You have to read the contract you signed. If it is still valid ("survivable" I think is the phrase?) then you have less to worry about. If not, they can mess with you a lot. Expect all the local guys you dealt with to be gone in 6 months. --Patrick
If folks are having colo. issues please take a look at Telx. We will be in San Diego as well. In the meantime let's talk. Thanks, George 917.371.7257 -----Original Message----- From: Patrick Giagnocavo [mailto:patrick@zill.net] Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2012 12:31 PM To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: So... my colo was just bought. On 1/10/2012 10:58 AM, Jay Ashworth wrote:
By Knology.
Should I be scared?
My experiences with Knology have been fairly thin, but uniformly negative, for at least the last 5 years. But I know that the plural of 'anecdote' is not 'data'. That said, I'm accepting all anecdotes. :-)
Cheers, -- jra
You have to read the contract you signed. If it is still valid ("survivable" I think is the phrase?) then you have less to worry about. If not, they can mess with you a lot. Expect all the local guys you dealt with to be gone in 6 months. --Patrick ______________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned by the Symantec Email Security.cloud service. ______________________________________________________________________
George, We appreciate your sponsorship but using the NANOG mailing list to sell your colo is inappropriate. Best Regards, Paul On Tue, Jan 10, 2012 at 6:20 PM, George Fitzpatrick <gfitzpatrick@telx.com> wrote:
If folks are having colo. issues please take a look at Telx. We will be in San Diego as well. In the meantime let's talk.
Thanks, George 917.371.7257
-----Original Message----- From: Patrick Giagnocavo [mailto:patrick@zill.net] Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2012 12:31 PM To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: So... my colo was just bought.
On 1/10/2012 10:58 AM, Jay Ashworth wrote:
By Knology.
Should I be scared?
My experiences with Knology have been fairly thin, but uniformly negative, for at least the last 5 years. But I know that the plural of 'anecdote' is not 'data'. That said, I'm accepting all anecdotes. :-)
Cheers, -- jra
You have to read the contract you signed. If it is still valid ("survivable" I think is the phrase?) then you have less to worry about. If not, they can mess with you a lot.
Expect all the local guys you dealt with to be gone in 6 months.
--Patrick
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Yes sorry for the post, Thanks. -----Original Message----- From: Paul WALL [mailto:pauldotwall@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2012 1:59 PM To: George Fitzpatrick Cc: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: So... my colo was just bought. George, We appreciate your sponsorship but using the NANOG mailing list to sell your colo is inappropriate. Best Regards, Paul On Tue, Jan 10, 2012 at 6:20 PM, George Fitzpatrick <gfitzpatrick@telx.com> wrote:
If folks are having colo. issues please take a look at Telx. We will be in San Diego as well. In the meantime let's talk.
Thanks, George 917.371.7257
-----Original Message----- From: Patrick Giagnocavo [mailto:patrick@zill.net] Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2012 12:31 PM To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: So... my colo was just bought.
On 1/10/2012 10:58 AM, Jay Ashworth wrote:
By Knology.
Should I be scared?
My experiences with Knology have been fairly thin, but uniformly negative, for at least the last 5 years. But I know that the plural of 'anecdote' is not 'data'. That said, I'm accepting all anecdotes. :-)
Cheers, -- jra
You have to read the contract you signed. If it is still valid ("survivable" I think is the phrase?) then you have less to worry about. If not, they can mess with you a lot.
Expect all the local guys you dealt with to be gone in 6 months.
--Patrick
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darn... and I was going to sublease some rack space in my sub-basement... /bill On Tue, Jan 10, 2012 at 06:58:33PM +0000, Paul WALL wrote:
George,
We appreciate your sponsorship but using the NANOG mailing list to sell your colo is inappropriate.
Best Regards, Paul
On Tue, Jan 10, 2012 at 6:20 PM, George Fitzpatrick <gfitzpatrick@telx.com> wrote:
If folks are having colo. issues please take a look at Telx. We will be in San Diego as well. In the meantime let's talk.
Thanks, George 917.371.7257
-----Original Message----- From: Patrick Giagnocavo [mailto:patrick@zill.net] Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2012 12:31 PM To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: So... my colo was just bought.
On 1/10/2012 10:58 AM, Jay Ashworth wrote:
By Knology.
Should I be scared?
My experiences with Knology have been fairly thin, but uniformly negative, for at least the last 5 years. But I know that the plural of 'anecdote' is not 'data'. That said, I'm accepting all anecdotes. :-)
Cheers, -- jra
You have to read the contract you signed. If it is still valid ("survivable" I think is the phrase?) then you have less to worry about. If not, they can mess with you a lot.
Expect all the local guys you dealt with to be gone in 6 months.
--Patrick
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Jay Ashworth" <jra@baylink.com>
By Knology.
Should I be scared?
My experiences with Knology have been fairly thin, but uniformly negative, for at least the last 5 years. But I know that the plural of 'anecdote' is not 'data'. That said, I'm accepting all anecdotes. :-)
And what I got was lots of stories about how bad "my colo just got bought by $BIGCO" can suck. For which, thanks... but I already knew that. I had been more interested in whether people had opinions about *the buyer*, Knology, which might counteract my personal, but anecdotal, bad impression. No one actually appears to have anything specifically bad to say about them, so I guess that's good. Cheers, -- jr 'waggles finger at the people who *called* them cause of my post' a -- Jay R. Ashworth Baylink jra@baylink.com Designer The Things I Think RFC 2100 Ashworth & Associates http://baylink.pitas.com 2000 Land Rover DII St Petersburg FL USA http://photo.imageinc.us +1 727 647 1274
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jay Ashworth" <jra@baylink.com>
No one actually appears to have anything specifically bad to say about them, so I guess that's good.
And for the record, I've been quite happy with E-Sol; as long as Knology plays no games with the staff, I don't expect any problems. Cheers, -- jra -- Jay R. Ashworth Baylink jra@baylink.com Designer The Things I Think RFC 2100 Ashworth & Associates http://baylink.pitas.com 2000 Land Rover DII St Petersburg FL USA http://photo.imageinc.us +1 727 647 1274
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bret Clark" <bclark@spectraaccess.com>
On 01/11/2012 04:38 PM, Jay Ashworth wrote:
And for the record, I've been quite happy with E-Sol; as long as Knology plays no games with the staff, I don't expect any problems.
It's extremely important you let the right people in Knology know that.
Wouldn't it be pretty to think The Right People just saw it? :-) Cheers, -- jra -- Jay R. Ashworth Baylink jra@baylink.com Designer The Things I Think RFC 2100 Ashworth & Associates http://baylink.pitas.com 2000 Land Rover DII St Petersburg FL USA http://photo.imageinc.us +1 727 647 1274
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