NANOG 70 network diagram and upstream
Just a small thing, but as one of the folks who used to work on the core network gear of AS11404, the network diagram has something in it that might confuse attendees as to who is really sponsoring the upstream: https://www.nanog.org/meetings/nanog70/diagram AS11404 was formerly known as Spectrum Networks, acquired in 2013 by Wavedivision Holdings LLC (Wave Broadband) and became the backbone of the Wave network. It's a totally different thing than the Charter service which is trademarked as as Spectrum. https://www.peeringdb.com/asn/11404 The logo in the right side bubble there shouldn't be the Charter/Spectrum trademarked font, but rather should be Wave, who built the dark fiber into the hotel and are providing the upstream. The last mile fiber into the hotel is Wave. -Eric
Btw.... Wow, a ~2 million dollar boundary (dual PTX1000's) for the NANOG 70 conference.... geez -aaron -----Original Message----- From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-bounces@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Eric Kuhnke Sent: Friday, June 2, 2017 1:43 PM To: nanog@nanog.org list <nanog@nanog.org> Subject: NANOG 70 network diagram and upstream Just a small thing, but as one of the folks who used to work on the core network gear of AS11404, the network diagram has something in it that might confuse attendees as to who is really sponsoring the upstream: https://www.nanog.org/meetings/nanog70/diagram AS11404 was formerly known as Spectrum Networks, acquired in 2013 by Wavedivision Holdings LLC (Wave Broadband) and became the backbone of the Wave network. It's a totally different thing than the Charter service which is trademarked as as Spectrum. https://www.peeringdb.com/asn/11404 The logo in the right side bubble there shouldn't be the Charter/Spectrum trademarked font, but rather should be Wave, who built the dark fiber into the hotel and are providing the upstream. The last mile fiber into the hotel is Wave. -Eric
And the 4x100G. That's four times the capacity of the network I work for. ~100k subs. On Jun 2, 2017 16:54, "Aaron Gould" <aaron1@gvtc.com> wrote:
Btw....
Wow, a ~2 million dollar boundary (dual PTX1000's) for the NANOG 70 conference.... geez
-aaron
-----Original Message----- From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-bounces@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Eric Kuhnke Sent: Friday, June 2, 2017 1:43 PM To: nanog@nanog.org list <nanog@nanog.org> Subject: NANOG 70 network diagram and upstream
Just a small thing, but as one of the folks who used to work on the core network gear of AS11404, the network diagram has something in it that might confuse attendees as to who is really sponsoring the upstream:
https://www.nanog.org/meetings/nanog70/diagram
AS11404 was formerly known as Spectrum Networks, acquired in 2013 by Wavedivision Holdings LLC (Wave Broadband) and became the backbone of the Wave network. It's a totally different thing than the Charter service which is trademarked as as Spectrum.
https://www.peeringdb.com/asn/11404
The logo in the right side bubble there shouldn't be the Charter/Spectrum trademarked font, but rather should be Wave, who built the dark fiber into the hotel and are providing the upstream. The last mile fiber into the hotel is Wave.
-Eric
On Jun 2, 2017, at 5:34 PM, Eric Dugas <edugas@unknowndevice.ca> wrote:
And the 4x100G. That's four times the capacity of the network I work for. ~100k subs.
Disclaimer: Not an employee of NTT, but I was last Bellevue NANOG. Last time in Bellevue with the Comcast (dark) and Wave (dim) fiber we had 220G with diverse building entrances. Many people made fun of me for the overkill. It peaked at 1.1Gb/s as WWDC was at the same time and at least one person plugged in to the wired station to download the latest developer tools. WWDC overlaps this time as well, and I believe there will be some additional wired ports available, so bring your thunderbolt and USB to Ethernet adapters. :-) - Jared
Yeah, I was wondering about that 4x100G. is that a necessity or a "because we can" move? -----Original Message----- From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-bounces@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Eric Dugas Sent: Friday, June 2, 2017 4:35 PM To: Aaron Gould <aaron1@gvtc.com> Cc: NANOG <nanog@nanog.org> Subject: RE: NANOG 70 network diagram and upstream And the 4x100G. That's four times the capacity of the network I work for. ~100k subs. On Jun 2, 2017 16:54, "Aaron Gould" <aaron1@gvtc.com> wrote:
Btw....
Wow, a ~2 million dollar boundary (dual PTX1000's) for the NANOG 70 conference.... geez
-aaron
-----Original Message----- From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-bounces@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Eric Kuhnke Sent: Friday, June 2, 2017 1:43 PM To: nanog@nanog.org list <nanog@nanog.org> Subject: NANOG 70 network diagram and upstream
Just a small thing, but as one of the folks who used to work on the core network gear of AS11404, the network diagram has something in it that might confuse attendees as to who is really sponsoring the upstream:
https://www.nanog.org/meetings/nanog70/diagram
AS11404 was formerly known as Spectrum Networks, acquired in 2013 by Wavedivision Holdings LLC (Wave Broadband) and became the backbone of the Wave network. It's a totally different thing than the Charter service which is trademarked as as Spectrum.
https://www.peeringdb.com/asn/11404
The logo in the right side bubble there shouldn't be the Charter/Spectrum trademarked font, but rather should be Wave, who built the dark fiber into the hotel and are providing the upstream. The last mile fiber into the hotel is Wave.
-Eric
Doesn't cost a lot to use the regional shelf spares stocked by Juniper for a couple of days... On Jun 4, 2017 4:03 PM, "James Breeden" <James@arenalgroup.co> wrote:
Yeah, I was wondering about that 4x100G. is that a necessity or a "because we can" move?
-----Original Message----- From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-bounces@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Eric Dugas Sent: Friday, June 2, 2017 4:35 PM To: Aaron Gould <aaron1@gvtc.com> Cc: NANOG <nanog@nanog.org> Subject: RE: NANOG 70 network diagram and upstream
And the 4x100G. That's four times the capacity of the network I work for. ~100k subs.
On Jun 2, 2017 16:54, "Aaron Gould" <aaron1@gvtc.com> wrote:
Btw....
Wow, a ~2 million dollar boundary (dual PTX1000's) for the NANOG 70 conference.... geez
-aaron
-----Original Message----- From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-bounces@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Eric Kuhnke Sent: Friday, June 2, 2017 1:43 PM To: nanog@nanog.org list <nanog@nanog.org> Subject: NANOG 70 network diagram and upstream
Just a small thing, but as one of the folks who used to work on the core network gear of AS11404, the network diagram has something in it that might confuse attendees as to who is really sponsoring the upstream:
https://www.nanog.org/meetings/nanog70/diagram
AS11404 was formerly known as Spectrum Networks, acquired in 2013 by Wavedivision Holdings LLC (Wave Broadband) and became the backbone of the Wave network. It's a totally different thing than the Charter service which is trademarked as as Spectrum.
https://www.peeringdb.com/asn/11404
The logo in the right side bubble there shouldn't be the Charter/Spectrum trademarked font, but rather should be Wave, who built the dark fiber into the hotel and are providing the upstream. The last mile fiber into the hotel is Wave.
-Eric
Looks like the network diagram was updated and they ended up with just 2x 10Gb circuits from Wave. I guess the 100Gb connections and redundant carriers fell through? --Andrew
On Jun 4, 2017, at 5:33 PM, Eric Kuhnke <eric.kuhnke@gmail.com> wrote:
Doesn't cost a lot to use the regional shelf spares stocked by Juniper for a couple of days...
On Jun 4, 2017 4:03 PM, "James Breeden" <James@arenalgroup.co> wrote:
Yeah, I was wondering about that 4x100G. is that a necessity or a "because we can" move?
-----Original Message----- From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-bounces@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Eric Dugas Sent: Friday, June 2, 2017 4:35 PM To: Aaron Gould <aaron1@gvtc.com> Cc: NANOG <nanog@nanog.org> Subject: RE: NANOG 70 network diagram and upstream
And the 4x100G. That's four times the capacity of the network I work for. ~100k subs.
On Jun 2, 2017 16:54, "Aaron Gould" <aaron1@gvtc.com> wrote:
Btw....
Wow, a ~2 million dollar boundary (dual PTX1000's) for the NANOG 70 conference.... geez
-aaron
-----Original Message----- From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-bounces@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Eric Kuhnke Sent: Friday, June 2, 2017 1:43 PM To: nanog@nanog.org list <nanog@nanog.org> Subject: NANOG 70 network diagram and upstream
Just a small thing, but as one of the folks who used to work on the core network gear of AS11404, the network diagram has something in it that might confuse attendees as to who is really sponsoring the upstream:
https://www.nanog.org/meetings/nanog70/diagram
AS11404 was formerly known as Spectrum Networks, acquired in 2013 by Wavedivision Holdings LLC (Wave Broadband) and became the backbone of the Wave network. It's a totally different thing than the Charter service which is trademarked as as Spectrum.
https://www.peeringdb.com/asn/11404
The logo in the right side bubble there shouldn't be the Charter/Spectrum trademarked font, but rather should be Wave, who built the dark fiber into the hotel and are providing the upstream. The last mile fiber into the hotel is Wave.
-Eric
Yes, frankly, it doesn't cost us (NANOG) anything - the sponsors like to do it for the "cool" factor, and so long as it's not an undue burden on us, they can throw as much bandwidth at us as they'd like. -Dave On Sun, Jun 4, 2017 at 4:02 PM, James Breeden <James@arenalgroup.co> wrote:
Yeah, I was wondering about that 4x100G. is that a necessity or a "because we can" move?
-----Original Message----- From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-bounces@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Eric Dugas Sent: Friday, June 2, 2017 4:35 PM To: Aaron Gould <aaron1@gvtc.com> Cc: NANOG <nanog@nanog.org> Subject: RE: NANOG 70 network diagram and upstream
And the 4x100G. That's four times the capacity of the network I work for. ~100k subs.
On Jun 2, 2017 16:54, "Aaron Gould" <aaron1@gvtc.com> wrote:
Btw....
Wow, a ~2 million dollar boundary (dual PTX1000's) for the NANOG 70 conference.... geez
-aaron
-----Original Message----- From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-bounces@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Eric Kuhnke Sent: Friday, June 2, 2017 1:43 PM To: nanog@nanog.org list <nanog@nanog.org> Subject: NANOG 70 network diagram and upstream
Just a small thing, but as one of the folks who used to work on the core network gear of AS11404, the network diagram has something in it that might confuse attendees as to who is really sponsoring the upstream:
https://www.nanog.org/meetings/nanog70/diagram
AS11404 was formerly known as Spectrum Networks, acquired in 2013 by Wavedivision Holdings LLC (Wave Broadband) and became the backbone of the Wave network. It's a totally different thing than the Charter service which is trademarked as as Spectrum.
https://www.peeringdb.com/asn/11404
The logo in the right side bubble there shouldn't be the Charter/Spectrum trademarked font, but rather should be Wave, who built the dark fiber into the hotel and are providing the upstream. The last mile fiber into the hotel is Wave.
-Eric
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