Folks, I googled around and could not find anything on this. Can anyone share their experience with IPv6 on the Verizon's LTE network? It is my understanding that it would be a dual-stack service, but i have not seen any screenshots or reviews that mention anything about IPv6 at all from a users perspective. Cameron ps. T-Mobile USA has an IPv6 beta with nokia device http://bit.ly/9s0Ed3 pps. 22 pages of reviews and such focused on the N900 operating with IPv6 here http://goo.gl/cUUga
On Tue, Dec 28, 2010 at 10:58 AM, Cameron Byrne <cb.list6@gmail.com> wrote:
Folks,
I googled around and could not find anything on this. Can anyone share their experience with IPv6 on the Verizon's LTE network? It is
I had thought the capable devices weren't hitting the market for ~2-3 weeks still?[0]
my understanding that it would be a dual-stack service, but i have not
The hype and the reality... maybe not the same thing :( I suspect, reading the wording of the press releases and such the devices and network gear are supposed to be v6 capable, that doesn't mean they'll be deploying v6 on day-0 :( I'm personally taking a 'show me' stance on this, I HOPE vzw does the right thing and launches with v4/v6 dualstack on the devices in all regions where deployment happens. I don't have much hope that this will actually happen though :(
seen any screenshots or reviews that mention anything about IPv6 at all from a users perspective.
I suspect you'll see something like a private-ipv4 and maybe public-ipv6, but that's just a guess on my part. -chris 0: <http://www.networkworld.com/news/2010/112310-verizon-lte-launch.html> - CES[1] stated timeframe for 'smartphones' to launch on LTE 1: <http://www.cesweb.org/> - Jan 6-9 - so ~2wks till launch of LTE smartphones on vzw.
On Tue, 28 Dec 2010 12:49:37 EST, Christopher Morrow said:
on this, I HOPE vzw does the right thing and launches with v4/v6 dualstack on the devices in all regions where deployment happens. I don't have much hope that this will actually happen though :(
Personally, I hope they roll it out a region at a time (even a "new time zone each day" would probably be good enough), so they can shake the bugs out of each region and lower the amount of stress on the network engineers having to get *everything* staged at the same time.. Rolling a totally new thing out to 100% of the user base on the same day will rarely end well.
On Tue, Dec 28, 2010 at 10:15 AM, <Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu> wrote:
On Tue, 28 Dec 2010 12:49:37 EST, Christopher Morrow said:
on this, I HOPE vzw does the right thing and launches with v4/v6 dualstack on the devices in all regions where deployment happens. I don't have much hope that this will actually happen though :(
Personally, I hope they roll it out a region at a time (even a "new time zone each day" would probably be good enough), so they can shake the bugs out of each region and lower the amount of stress on the network engineers having to get *everything* staged at the same time.. Rolling a totally new thing out to 100% of the user base on the same day will rarely end well.
Just to update the group, a helpful person sent me a screenshot of the VZW LTE connection manager, and it does indeed have a public IPv6 address an a 10.x.x.x IPv4 address. So, true to claim, the new LTE service available today on USB sticks is production dual-stack. Bravo! Cameron ====== http://groups.google.com/group/tmoipv6beta ======
On Tue, 28 Dec 2010, Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu wrote:
Rolling a totally new thing out to 100% of the user base on the same day will rarely end well.
If this is LTE only the it's a "totally new thing" anyway and I doubt some extra IPv6 troubles will hurt that much more :P -- Mikael Abrahamsson email: swmike@swm.pp.se
On Tue, Dec 28, 2010 at 1:15 PM, <Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu> wrote:
On Tue, 28 Dec 2010 12:49:37 EST, Christopher Morrow said:
on this, I HOPE vzw does the right thing and launches with v4/v6 dualstack on the devices in all regions where deployment happens. I
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ (note critical caveat)
don't have much hope that this will actually happen though :(
Personally, I hope they roll it out a region at a time (even a "new time zone each day" would probably be good enough), so they can shake the bugs out of each region and lower the amount of stress on the network engineers having to get *everything* staged at the same time.. Rolling a totally new thing out to 100% of the user base on the same day will rarely end well.
see note.
On Tue, 28 Dec 2010 13:54:38 EST, Christopher Morrow said:
On Tue, Dec 28, 2010 at 1:15 PM, <Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu> wrote:
On Tue, 28 Dec 2010 12:49:37 EST, Christopher Morrow said:
on this, I HOPE vzw does the right thing and launches with v4/v6 dualstack on the devices in all regions where deployment happens. I
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ (note critical caveat)
Sorry, I read the original note as "it's all launching that day", not "starting on"....
On Tue, Dec 28, 2010 at 3:20 PM, <Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu> wrote:
On Tue, 28 Dec 2010 13:54:38 EST, Christopher Morrow said:
On Tue, Dec 28, 2010 at 1:15 PM, <Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu> wrote:
On Tue, 28 Dec 2010 12:49:37 EST, Christopher Morrow said:
on this, I HOPE vzw does the right thing and launches with v4/v6 dualstack on the devices in all regions where deployment happens. I
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ (note critical caveat)
Sorry, I read the original note as "it's all launching that day", not "starting on"....
no biggie, I get that they'll be launching 'cities' at a time, I'm just hoping they'll be doing dualstack on each as they roll them out. it'd be super nice if the only devices they permitted on were dualstack as well (more incentive for OS and HW vendors to play ball). -chris
I believe Verizon's specs for 4G devices required v6 support from the start: http://www.personal.psu.edu/dvm105/blogs/ipv6/2009/06/verizon-mandates-ipv6-... I seem to recall IPv6 support being a requirement for smartphones on their 3G network as well, but I can't find a reference for that. On Dec 28, 2010, at 3:32 PM, Christopher Morrow wrote:
On Tue, Dec 28, 2010 at 3:20 PM, <Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu> wrote:
On Tue, 28 Dec 2010 13:54:38 EST, Christopher Morrow said:
On Tue, Dec 28, 2010 at 1:15 PM, <Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu> wrote:
On Tue, 28 Dec 2010 12:49:37 EST, Christopher Morrow said:
on this, I HOPE vzw does the right thing and launches with v4/v6 dualstack on the devices in all regions where deployment happens. I
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ (note critical caveat)
Sorry, I read the original note as "it's all launching that day", not "starting on"....
no biggie, I get that they'll be launching 'cities' at a time, I'm just hoping they'll be doing dualstack on each as they roll them out. it'd be super nice if the only devices they permitted on were dualstack as well (more incentive for OS and HW vendors to play ball).
-chris
On 12/28/2010 09:58 AM, Cameron Byrne wrote:
I googled around and could not find anything on this. Can anyone share their experience with IPv6 on the Verizon's LTE network? It is my understanding that it would be a dual-stack service, but i have not seen any screenshots or reviews that mention anything about IPv6 at all from a users perspective.
I briefly chatted with someone on IRC (freenode, #ipv6) last week who recently discovered that the connection software for their Verizon aircard is now picking up an IPv6 address and -- since that change -- a NATted IPv4 address. Unfortunately I don't have contact info for this person, but they were kind enough to share the IPv6 address they were assigned (under 2600:1007:*, not sure if the remainder is user-identifiable). Not terribly helpful, I'm aware, but it at least implies that there's still IPv4, albeit with NAT. Jima
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