New Natural Disaster! 8/27/2011 Hurricane Irene
The US Airforce has sent most of the fighters from the East Coast to Indiana, what are you doing to prepare for the storm of the next 2 days? Ready, Set, DISCUSS!
Irene is already past me. I'm outside of Jacksonville, Florida by the coast. Irene snapped my tomato plant in half overnight Wednesday.
On 08/26/2011 09:51 PM, Scott Morris wrote:
Did you have backup tomatoes?
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From nanog-bounces+bonomi=mail.r-bonomi.com@nanog.org Fri Aug 26 21:58:30 2011 Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2011 21:56:48 -0500 From: Charles N Wyble <charles@knownelement.com> To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: New Natural Disaster! 8/27/2011 Hurricane Irene
On 08/26/2011 09:51 PM, Scott Morris wrote:
Did you have backup tomatoes?
Indeed. Multi gardening is all the rage.
I thought I heard somone muttering about 'hot(house) spares'. Incompatible with IP though, 'vines' required.
Off-site (at the supermarket). On Fri, 26 Aug 2011, Scott Morris wrote:
Did you have backup tomatoes?
On 8/26/11 10:05 PM, Chris wrote:
Irene is already past me. I'm outside of Jacksonville, Florida by the coast. Irene snapped my tomato plant in half overnight Wednesday.
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On 8/26/2011 6:55 PM, Andrew Kirch wrote:
The US Airforce has sent most of the fighters from the East Coast to Indiana, what are you doing to prepare for the storm of the next 2 days?
Ready, Set, DISCUSS!
Same thing I always do when a hurricane hits the coast of the US... wonder why people insist on rebuilding on those coastlines again and again. Matthew Kaufman
On Aug 26, 2011, at 7:08 PM, Matthew Kaufman wrote:
On 8/26/2011 6:55 PM, Andrew Kirch wrote:
The US Airforce has sent most of the fighters from the East Coast to Indiana, what are you doing to prepare for the storm of the next 2 days?
Ready, Set, DISCUSS!
Same thing I always do when a hurricane hits the coast of the US... wonder why people insist on rebuilding on those coastlines again and again.
Matthew Kaufman
Because other than the occasional hurricane, some consider it a nice place to live and it's not like there is anywhere on the planet that is completely devoid of some form of natural disaster. Owen
On 8/26/2011 7:13 PM, Owen DeLong wrote:
On Aug 26, 2011, at 7:08 PM, Matthew Kaufman wrote:
On 8/26/2011 6:55 PM, Andrew Kirch wrote:
The US Airforce has sent most of the fighters from the East Coast to Indiana, what are you doing to prepare for the storm of the next 2 days?
Ready, Set, DISCUSS!
Same thing I always do when a hurricane hits the coast of the US... wonder why people insist on rebuilding on those coastlines again and again.
Matthew Kaufman Because other than the occasional hurricane, some consider it a nice place to live and it's not like there is anywhere on the planet that is completely devoid of some form of natural disaster.
Owen
I wasn't asking for an answer... just saying what I was doing to prepare. Matthew Kaufman
The US Airforce has sent most of the fighters from the East Coast to Indiana, what are you doing to prepare for the storm of the next 2 days? Ready, Set, DISCUSS!
I'm probably the only one on the list from Southeastern Virginia (Norfolk/Virginia Beach Area.) It's expected to be here tomorrow morning early. Storm prep is mostly moving equipment from low lying areas that are likely to get flooded. I'm sure the cellular companies are on standby with generators for the sites that don't have permanant ones, if the fiber network holds up. In past storms our region has lost much of the metro fiber business network from Cox due to power outages and lack of optical bypass switches and other issues. Previous storms that looked like they were bad were nothing. Others that looked like nothing caused huge amounts of outages. Time will tell!
Subject: Urgent hurricane alert Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2011 14:55:15 -0400 From: borowitzreport.com <andy@borowitzreport.com> To: <zita@psg.com> Internet Outages from Hurricane Could Force People to Interact with Other People, Officials Warn FEMA: Prepare for Unwanted Eye Contact, Awkward Silences WASHINGTON (*The Borowitz Report – As Hurricane Irene prepared to batter the East Coast of the United States, federal disaster officials warned that Internet outages caused by the storm could force people to interact with other people for the first time in years. News of the possible interpersonal interactions created panic up and down the coast as residents braced themselves for the horror of awkward silences and unwanted eye contact. And as officials warned people in the hurricane zone to stay indoors, residents feared the worst: conversations with members of their immediate family. At the Federal Emergency Management Agency, FEMA chief Craig Fugate offered these words of advice for those who may be forced into direct contact with other human beings: “Be prepared. Write down possible topics to talk about in advance. Sports is a good one, and of course the weather. Remember, a conversation is basically a series of Facebook updates strung together.” He also offered these words of hope for those trapped interacting with other people due to an Internet outage: “At some point, the wifi will go back on, and hopefully you won’t have to go through anything like this again for a long, long time.” In a related story, the Rev. Pat Robertson said the best way to prepare for Hurricane Irene is not being gay.
On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 09:55:10PM -0400, Andrew Kirch wrote:
The US Airforce has sent most of the fighters from the East Coast to Indiana, what are you doing to prepare for the storm of the next 2 days?
Ready, Set, DISCUSS!
Personally, I was very happy to hear that Equinix had laid in stores of MREs, and so, with luck, nobody we know there will have to resort to cannibalism or being cannibalized. (Although they may wish they had, depending on the age and type of MRE.) --msa
On 8/26/2011 9:07 PM, Majdi S. Abbas wrote:
DISCUSS!
Personally, I was very happy to hear that Equinix had laid in stores of MREs, and so, with luck, nobody we know there will have to resort to cannibalism or being cannibalized. (Although they may wish they had, depending on the age and type of MRE.)
--msa
MRE's? In an enclosed space? For an extended period? Time to implement the new Marine Rule of Engagement - no audible farting. Hopefully they've gotten rid of the "bean component" ones. -- Jeff Shultz
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MRE's? In an enclosed space? For an extended period? Time to implement the new Marine Rule of Engagement - no audible farting. Hopefully they've gotten rid of the "bean component" ones.
The audible ones are usually the ones you need to worry about ;)
I think you meant "usually *don't* need to worry about". Cheers, -- jr 'silent but deadly' a -- Jay R. Ashworth Baylink jra@baylink.com Designer The Things I Think RFC 2100 Ashworth & Associates http://baylink.pitas.com 2000 Land Rover DII St Petersburg FL USA http://photo.imageinc.us +1 727 647 1274
On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 09:55:10PM -0400, Andrew Kirch wrote:
The US Airforce has sent most of the fighters from the East Coast to Indiana, what are you doing to prepare for the storm of the next 2 days?
Ready, Set, DISCUSS!
Personally, I was very happy to hear that Equinix had laid in stores of MREs, and so, with luck, nobody we know there will have to resort to cannibalism or being cannibalized. (Although they may wish they had, depending on the age and type of MRE.)
The parking lot was pretty empty. I've now been at Equinix during a blizzard, a power failure, a tornado, and a hurricane. It's very hard to tell one thing from the next. Except the power failure, because the lights all went out. Anyways, if the MRE's fail to satisfy, there's a hammer in my toolbox and a vending machine in the customer silo, for anyone desperate to avoid cannibalism. ;-) ;-) ... JG -- Joe Greco - sol.net Network Services - Milwaukee, WI - http://www.sol.net "We call it the 'one bite at the apple' rule. Give me one chance [and] then I won't contact you again." - Direct Marketing Ass'n position on e-mail spam(CNN) With 24 million small businesses in the US alone, that's way too many apples.
It looks like the DHS, FEMA got this emergency wrong... by the time it got to NYC it was the equivalent of a normal day in Scotland.I live in Scotland... Andrew
On 11-08-28 09:01 AM, andrew.wallace wrote:
It looks like the DHS, FEMA got this emergency wrong... by the time it got to NYC it was the equivalent of a normal day in Scotland.I live in Scotland...
Andrew
Except that the reality of the situation is, if the DHS, FEMA, etc downplayed the severity of this then there would have been an outcry that they didn't do enough *in addition* to the fact that there would have been a lot more than just 11 (at last count) deaths as a result. You have to prepare for the worst.. just like you don't build out a DC without backup generators just because you don't see the lights in your house go out that often. However, on a more technical note, it's good to see the notices trickle in from the different DCs that everything is all clear and that no power actually had to be preemptively cut by ConEd in the Lower Manhattan Financial District. Cheers, /toph
On 8/28/2011 6:01 AM, andrew.wallace wrote:
It looks like the DHS, FEMA got this emergency wrong... by the time it got to NYC it was the equivalent of a normal day in Scotland.I live in Scotland...
Andrew
I'm sure the rest of the East Coast will be particularly appreciative of that sentiment whilst they deal with billions of dollars of damage from the wake of Irene.
Yeah, I was going to respond to the original post but can't find it. The statement made by Mr. Wallace borders on insulting. The devastation in my county alone is something I have never seen. Thousands of houses destroyed, tens of thousands displaced. Businesses completely wiped out. A major thoroughfare (intersate 287 in Parsippany / Boonton) washed away: http://photos.nj.com/4504/gallery/part_of_287_north_collapses_after_hurrican... This is major connector carrying tens of thousands of cars per day. The impact will be very severe to our region. NJ power company JCPL, which only covers a small part of the state, has 380,000 customers affected. There are wires burning peoples yards and houses down. So, if a normal day of living in Scotland means floods, people dying, freeways disappearing, mandatory evacuations, and everything else that I have dealt with in the last 48 hours, thank god I am not there. Check out the level recently, versus the "record" in 1979: http://water.weather.gov/ahps2/hydrograph.php?wfo=phi&gage=bonn4&view=1,1,1,1,1,1,1,0 The main reason for the impact was because we had already had one of the wettest months of August on record. Give me a couple days, I will have some photos and movies up.
-----Original Message----- From: Paul Graydon [mailto:paul@paulgraydon.co.uk] Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2011 3:10 PM To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: New Natural Disaster! 8/27/2011 Hurricane Irene
On 8/28/2011 6:01 AM, andrew.wallace wrote:
It looks like the DHS, FEMA got this emergency wrong... by the time it got to NYC it was the equivalent of a normal day in Scotland.I live in Scotland...
Andrew
I'm sure the rest of the East Coast will be particularly appreciative of that sentiment whilst they deal with billions of dollars of damage from the wake of Irene.
On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 02:33:25PM -0400, Alex Rubenstein wrote:
The statement made by Mr. Wallace borders on insulting. The devastation in my county alone is something I have never seen.
But he wasn't talking about your county. He said NYC. -- David Cantrell | Official London Perl Mongers Bad Influence If I could read only one thing it would be the future, in the entrails of the bastard denying me access to anything else.
It looks like the DHS, FEMA got this emergency wrong... by the time it got to NYC it was the equivalent of a normal day in Scotland. I live in Scotland...
I've been to Scotland, and I don't recall this being a daily occurrence even in the Highlands: http://www.flickr.com/photos/mtaphotos/6089986106/in/photostream http://www.flickr.com/photos/mtaphotos/6088662319/in/photostream http://www.flickr.com/photos/mtaphotos/6088640941/in/photostream http://www.flickr.com/photos/mtaphotos/6089062244/in/photostream/ R's, John
On 8/28/11 12:29 , John Levine wrote:
It looks like the DHS, FEMA got this emergency wrong... by the time it got to NYC it was the equivalent of a normal day in Scotland. I live in Scotland...
http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/climate/uk/actualmonthly/ 22.5cm seems to be the max for the month of august. some locations on the eastern seaboard got close that in about 5 hours.
I've been to Scotland, and I don't recall this being a daily occurrence even in the Highlands:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/mtaphotos/6089986106/in/photostream
http://www.flickr.com/photos/mtaphotos/6088662319/in/photostream
http://www.flickr.com/photos/mtaphotos/6088640941/in/photostream
http://www.flickr.com/photos/mtaphotos/6089062244/in/photostream/
R's, John
On Sun, 28 Aug 2011 09:01:45 PDT, "andrew.wallace" said:
It looks like the DHS, FEMA got this emergency wrong... by the time it got to NYC it was the equivalent of a normal day in Scotland
I doubt you actually have the sort of flooding Vermont is seeing as a normal day. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/44305129/ns/weather/ NYC got 8 inches of rain. Call that 20cm. http://www.treehugger.com/files/2011/08/hurricane-irene-august-wettest-month... The *total* average rainfall for Glasgow for June, July, August, and September *combined* is 19.75cm. But yeah, you see that sort of rain as a "normal day". http://weather.uk.msn.com/monthly_averages.aspx?wealocations=wc:UKXX0061 Now admittedly, Glasgow and company had a spell of heavy rain earlier this month: http://news.stv.tv/scotland/265795-road-and-rail-chaos-as-heavy-rain-batters... But the 60mm (2.3 inches) was reported as one of the heaviest 24-hour rains since they started keeping records in Glasgow. And what NYC got was almost 4 times as much. 41 dead, 5.1M houses still without power, flooding and downed trees all over the place. I'm pretty sure that's not a normal day in Scotland.
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