Actually, dollar for dollar, the linux box will outperform the cisco. What the cisco gives you is much simpler access to the knobs that make the bells ring and whistles blow. At 04:26 PM 10/28/98 -0500, you wrote:
So does linux.
Linux can be:
A packet forwarder (router) A packet filter (firewall) An IP masquerading packet filter (NAT firewall) Can run RIP, BGP, EGP, OSPF (via gated)
Maybe I'm being naiive here, but what does Cisco offer beyond this (besides the availability of higher performance)?
--Adam
-----Original Message----- From: Michael Shields <shields@crosslink.net> To: dirk@power.net <dirk@power.net> Cc: nanog@merit.edu <nanog@merit.edu>; list@inet-access.net <list@inet-access.net> Date: Wednesday, October 28, 1998 4:01 PM Subject: Re: Linux Router KIT
In article <19981028100541.00359@orlando.power.net>, dirk@power.net wrote:
Linux doesn't just kill Microsoft's NT and Solaris. It also eats Cisco for lunch.
This isn't true. IOS does a lot more than just get packets from interface A to interface B. (In terms of managability as well as functionality) -- Shields, CrossLink.
------- John Fraizer | __ _ The System Administrator | / / (_)__ __ ____ __ | The choice mailto:John.Fraizer@EnterZone.Net | / /__/ / _ \/ // /\ \/ / | of a GNU http://www.EnterZone.Net/ | /____/_/_//_/\_,_/ /_/\_\ | Generation A 486 is a terrible thing to waste...
On Wed, 28 Oct 1998, John Fraizer wrote:
Actually, dollar for dollar, the linux box will outperform the cisco. What the cisco gives you is much simpler access to the knobs that make the bells ring and whistles blow.
Linux gives you access to the source... (*BSD does too...) Its also far cheaper to get spare parts for PCs than Ciscos... -Dan
Dan Hollis wrote:
On Wed, 28 Oct 1998, John Fraizer wrote:
Actually, dollar for dollar, the linux box will outperform the cisco. What the cisco gives you is much simpler access to the knobs that make the bells ring and whistles blow.
Linux gives you access to the source... (*BSD does too...)
Its also far cheaper to get spare parts for PCs than Ciscos...
It's also possible to get spare parts for PCs at 8 PM on Saturday. Not true for Cisco. -- -- *-----------------------------* Phil Howard KA9WGN * -- -- | Inturnet, Inc. | Director of Internet Services | -- -- | Business Internet Solutions | eng at intur.net | -- -- *-----------------------------* philh at intur.net * --
It's also possible to get spare parts for PCs at 8 PM on Saturday. Not true for Cisco.
http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/625/sno/smons_ds.htm Section: SMARTnet Onsite 24x7x4 -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- Atheism is a non-prophet organization. I route, therefore I am. Alex Rubenstein, alex@nac.net, KC2BUO, ISP/C Charter Member Father of the Network and Head Bottle-Washer Net Access Corporation, 9 Mt. Pleasant Tpk., Denville, NJ 07834 Don't choose a spineless ISP; we have more backbone! http://www.nac.net -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --
On Thu, Oct 29, 1998 at 09:35:26PM -0500, alex@nac.net wrote:
It's also possible to get spare parts for PCs at 8 PM on Saturday. Not true for Cisco.
http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/625/sno/smons_ds.htm
Section: SMARTnet Onsite 24x7x4
You can get anything you want if you're willing to pay enough. - jared
At 10:21 PM 10/29/98 -0500, Jared Mauch wrote:
On Thu, Oct 29, 1998 at 09:35:26PM -0500, alex@nac.net wrote:
It's also possible to get spare parts for PCs at 8 PM on Saturday. Not true for Cisco.
http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/625/sno/smons_ds.htm
Section: SMARTnet Onsite 24x7x4
You can get anything you want if you're willing to pay enough.
Amen. Unfortunately there are other things that require $money$ as well. Like sallaries, marketinf, accounting, etc. ___________________________________________________ Roeland M.J. Meyer, ISOC (InterNIC RM993) e-mail: <mailto:rmeyer@mhsc.com>rmeyer@mhsc.com Internet phone: hawk.mhsc.com Personal web pages: <http://www.mhsc.com/~rmeyer>www.mhsc.com/~rmeyer Company web-site: <http://www.mhsc.com/>www.mhsc.com/ ___________________________________________ I bet the human brain is a kludge. -- Marvin Minsky
On Thu, Oct 29, 1998 at 09:35:26PM -0500, alex@nac.net wrote:
It's also possible to get spare parts for PCs at 8 PM on Saturday. Not true for Cisco.
http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/625/sno/smons_ds.htm
Section: SMARTnet Onsite 24x7x4
You can get anything you want if you're willing to pay enough.
Not that I am a big fan of PC based or even *nix routers, one could make the argument that at <$3000 for 16 routed ports (a price someone mentioned on here) it would be very inexpensive (relatively) to keep fully configured spare chassis around for less than the price of a comparably equiped Cisco. Then again, some of us keep fully configured spare Ciscos around and still get SMARTnet Onsite 4 hour. I guess it just depends what your customers pay for. (note: I didn't say *expect*) Flames encouraged, -Deepak. AiNET
Hello All, On Thu, 29 Oct 1998 alex@nac.net wrote:
It's also possible to get spare parts for PCs at 8 PM on Saturday. Not true for Cisco. http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/625/sno/smons_ds.htm
Section: SMARTnet Onsite 24x7x4 But, Not at $79.00 + tax for a -good- 10/100 card . True ? JimL
On Thu, Oct 29, 1998 at 09:35:26PM -0500, alex@nac.net wrote:
It's also possible to get spare parts for PCs at 8 PM on Saturday. Not true for Cisco.
http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/625/sno/smons_ds.htm
Section: SMARTnet Onsite 24x7x4
Ok, Alex; he overstated a _touch_. But have you _priced_ 168-hour support for a Cisco? You're perilously close to pulling a Shein on us. Don't do that. Cheers, -- jr 'Shein on, you crazy diamond...' a -- Jay R. Ashworth jra@baylink.com Member of the Technical Staff Buy copies of The New Hackers Dictionary. The Suncoast Freenet Give them to all your friends. Tampa Bay, Florida http://www.ccil.org/jargon/ +1 813 790 7592
participants (9)
-
alex＠nac.net -
Dan Hollis -
Deepak Jain -
Jared Mauch -
Jay R. Ashworth -
John Fraizer -
Network Operations Center -
Phil Howard -
Roeland M.J. Meyer