Verizon has been listening to nanog.
http://www.usatoday.com/tech/news/2007-10-23-verizon-fios-plan_N.htm 20 Mbps down, 20 Mbps up, fully symmetrical for $65. Strangely enough it's where they compete with CableVisions 30Mbps down, 5Mbps up plan first. -- Leo Bicknell - bicknell@ufp.org - CCIE 3440 PGP keys at http://www.ufp.org/~bicknell/ Read TMBG List - tmbg-list-request@tmbg.org, www.tmbg.org
I wonder if they will permit BGP announcements from the business grade FIOS service? Does anyone know? I was pleased when during the Q/A the question of service caps was posed as one of the first items. Regards, Edward A. Trdina III Senior Network/Systems Engineer Clayton Kendall, Inc. 150 West Street East Pittsburgh, PA 15112 Office (412)829-2201 x31 Cell (412)334-8000 -----Original Message----- From: owner-nanog@merit.edu [mailto:owner-nanog@merit.edu] On Behalf Of Leo Bicknell Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2007 5:59 PM To: nanog@merit.edu Subject: Verizon has been listening to nanog. http://www.usatoday.com/tech/news/2007-10-23-verizon-fios-plan_N.htm 20 Mbps down, 20 Mbps up, fully symmetrical for $65. Strangely enough it's where they compete with CableVisions 30Mbps down, 5Mbps up plan first. -- Leo Bicknell - bicknell@ufp.org - CCIE 3440 PGP keys at http://www.ufp.org/~bicknell/ Read TMBG List - tmbg-list-request@tmbg.org, www.tmbg.org
Edward A. Trdina III wrote:
I wonder if they will permit BGP announcements from the business grade FIOS service? Does anyone know?
man tun|tinc|openvpn|*swan|ipsec|... If they don't allow it and you can live with a few bytes of overhead per packet, nothing (except hard firewalling and doing weird things, thus effectively not providing Internet connectivity) can stop them. Greets, Jeroen
On 10/23/07, Leo Bicknell <bicknell@ufp.org> wrote:
http://www.usatoday.com/tech/news/2007-10-23-verizon-fios-plan_N.htm
20 Mbps down, 20 Mbps up, fully symmetrical for $65.
That's pretty sweet, now all they have to do is start laying the fiber over here...
Hex Star wrote:
On 10/23/07, Leo Bicknell <bicknell@ufp.org> wrote:
http://www.usatoday.com/tech/news/2007-10-23-verizon-fios-plan_N.htm
20 Mbps down, 20 Mbps up, fully symmetrical for $65.
That's pretty sweet, now all they have to do is start laying the fiber over here...
And stop ripping out copper.
On Wed, Oct 24, 2007 at 08:29:54AM -0400, Joe Maimon wrote:
On 10/23/07, Leo Bicknell <bicknell@ufp.org> wrote:
http://www.usatoday.com/tech/news/2007-10-23-verizon-fios-plan_N.htm
20 Mbps down, 20 Mbps up, fully symmetrical for $65.
That's pretty sweet, now all they have to do is start laying the fiber over here...
And stop ripping out copper.
Now that I've gotten caught up on my inbox, perhaps this apropos article will be viewed as more timely for this list than my earlier outburst: http://www.beskerming.com/commentary/2007/10/24/292/PhD_Student_Claims_200x_... (there's also a link in the article WRT to the Verizon issue of copper XOR fiber.) -- Henry Yen Aegis Information Systems, Inc. Senior Systems Programmer Hicksville, New York
On Wed, Oct 24, 2007 at 08:58:13AM -0400, Henry Yen wrote:
On Wed, Oct 24, 2007 at 08:29:54AM -0400, Joe Maimon wrote:
On 10/23/07, Leo Bicknell <bicknell@ufp.org> wrote:
http://www.usatoday.com/tech/news/2007-10-23-verizon-fios-plan_N.htm
20 Mbps down, 20 Mbps up, fully symmetrical for $65.
That's pretty sweet, now all they have to do is start laying the fiber over here...
And stop ripping out copper.
Now that I've gotten caught up on my inbox, perhaps this apropos article will be viewed as more timely for this list than my earlier outburst:
http://www.beskerming.com/commentary/2007/10/24/292/PhD_Student_Claims_200x_...
(there's also a link in the article WRT to the Verizon issue of copper XOR fiber.)
The question here is always DISTANCE, and the plant topology. I live close to fiber, but due to the way the boundaries are drawn, I can't just go to the closest CO, I need to go to the one that is 50k feet away. If they can do even 10Mb/s at a distance greater than 5 miles it's a welcome innovation. If it requires 350Mhz capable copper, only works up to 1k feet, etc.. then i'd much rather have a conduit with fiber appear nearby. Perhaps the neighboring Verizon plant will extend into the currently legacy SBC area, but I can only dream... Time to do my own build-out. - Jared -- Jared Mauch | pgp key available via finger from jared@puck.nether.net clue++; | http://puck.nether.net/~jared/ My statements are only mine.
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