Re: Typical warranty for generic DWDM transceivers
FWIW, I've never had an issue with third party optics. Particularly if they're OEM Finisar, JDSU, etc... At 09:35 AM 20/08/2013, Jay Ashworth wrote:
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From: "Brandon Ross" <bross@pobox.com>
She has sold many thousands of optics, all with lifetime warrantys. Many of them to very large and clueful organizations, many of whom are represented here on NANOG. Of those thousands sold, I can count less than 20 that have been returned.
I've also worked for VARs in the past, and work with several of them today, selling new OEM branded optics. I've found a MUCH higher percentage of OEM optics having to be returned to the manufacturer.
Of course, take my report with a grain of salt.
Not at all: No one is gonna stop buying Cisco cause a Cisco optic died.
Third-party manufacturers don't have that built in cushion, so it's not unreasonable that they might pay the higher degree of attention to reliability that your off-the-cuff statistics imply.
You do want to go third-party, though, not fourth-party or below. :-)
Cheers, -- jra -- Jay R. Ashworth Baylink jra@baylink.com Designer The Things I Think RFC 2100 Ashworth & Associates http://baylink.pitas.com 2000 Land Rover DII St Petersburg FL USA #natog +1 727 647 1274
--- Clayton Zekelman Managed Network Systems Inc. (MNSi) 3363 Tecumseh Rd. E Windsor, Ontario N8W 1H4 tel. 519-985-8410 fax. 519-985-8409
The vendor-locked optics issue cause more trouble than it is worth. There really needs to be some kind of "aftermarket" ruling on network equipment, something along the lines of: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aftermarket_(automotive) Tim:> On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 9:49 AM, Clayton Zekelman <clayton@mnsi.net> wrote:
FWIW, I've never had an issue with third party optics.
Particularly if they're OEM Finisar, JDSU, etc...
At 09:35 AM 20/08/2013, Jay Ashworth wrote:
----- Original Message -----
From: "Brandon Ross" <bross@pobox.com>
She has sold many thousands of optics, all with lifetime warrantys. Many of them to very large and clueful organizations, many of whom are represented here on NANOG. Of those thousands sold, I can count less than 20 that have been returned.
I've also worked for VARs in the past, and work with several of them today, selling new OEM branded optics. I've found a MUCH higher percentage of OEM optics having to be returned to the manufacturer.
Of course, take my report with a grain of salt.
Not at all: No one is gonna stop buying Cisco cause a Cisco optic died.
Third-party manufacturers don't have that built in cushion, so it's not unreasonable that they might pay the higher degree of attention to reliability that your off-the-cuff statistics imply.
You do want to go third-party, though, not fourth-party or below. :-)
Cheers, -- jra -- Jay R. Ashworth Baylink jra@baylink.com Designer The Things I Think RFC 2100 Ashworth & Associates http://baylink.pitas.com 2000 Land Rover DII St Petersburg FL USA #natog +1 727 647 1274
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Clayton Zekelman Managed Network Systems Inc. (MNSi) 3363 Tecumseh Rd. E Windsor, Ontario N8W 1H4
tel. 519-985-8410 fax. 519-985-8409
-- Tim:>
On Aug 20, 2013, at 10:01 AM, Tim Durack <tdurack@gmail.com> wrote:
The vendor-locked optics issue cause more trouble than it is worth. There really needs to be some kind of "aftermarket" ruling on network equipment, something along the lines of:
I've had interoperability issues with first party optics with first party equipment that isn't seen with 3rd party. I do wish more people would put pressure on their vendors on this topic. Simple text in your RFP/RFI requiring all SFF-8472 fields to be usable, sticking their "stuff" in their part of the EEPROM, but basing operations on the MSA fields not their own elements. - jared
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