Hello everyone, I hope everyone is doing in these crazy times. I am delighted to announce Infrapedia 2.0 which is a complete code overhaul from the previous version of Infrapedia. You can visit infrapedia 2.0 https://infrapedia.com and published open-source code https://github.com/infrapedia For those who missed the original announcement, what is Infrapedia? A tool that visualizes network and data center information and helps create custom views integrate with websites, monitoring tools (soon librenms), etc. One of the long time projects we have been working on is near-real-time crowdsourced network availability data. (think about Waze for fiber cut, ix outages, and other important information) (not focusing for home users but rather a long haul, metro fiber networks, ixps, dcs) We've had to rewrite our code in order to be able to give new abilities to users such as integrating with your monitoring systems to overlay information, connecting owners of the fibers with buyers without middle-man, give the ability for people to use the data in custom formats for research as we did with Northeastern University, https://blog.infrapedia.com/2020/05/12/case-study-custom-map-services/ we've created a slack to continue discussions and get more direct feedback from everyone who is interested, you can join our slack by clicking here https://join.slack.com/t/infrapedia/shared_invite/zt-em3btj80-jj0iGlG7jkAjPk... I appreciate all of the volunteer's time who spent the time providing feedback, make recommendations, and more. mehmet
Good afternoon. I'm looking for a switch with the following capabilities: . transport for more than 20 gbps . link aggregation LACP . slots for SFP+ . seamlessly when trunking vlans through the link aggregation. And essentially that doesn't exceed US$D 2000 and is compatible with 10GBASE-ER and/or 10GBASE-ZR modules that are not from the vendor itself (e.g. SPFs: Huawei, Mikrotik, Sumitomo, OEMs). If any of you have a good experience with a device that meets these requirements (which are minimal with the exception of price and compatibility) ? Regards. Mauro Gasparini
Used Juniper QFX5100-48T will do it. Probably overkill but you can grab one cheap @ebay On Wed, May 13, 2020 at 16:36 Mauro Gasparini <mjgasparini@gmail.com> wrote:
Good afternoon.
I'm looking for a switch with the following capabilities: . transport for more than 20 gbps . link aggregation LACP . slots for SFP+ . seamlessly when trunking vlans through the link aggregation.
And essentially that doesn't exceed US$D 2000 and is compatible with 10GBASE-ER and/or 10GBASE-ZR modules that are not from the vendor itself (e.g. SPFs: Huawei, Mikrotik, Sumitomo, OEMs).
If any of you have a good experience with a device that meets these requirements (which are minimal with the exception of price and compatibility) ?
Regards. Mauro Gasparini
-- Mehmet +1-424-298-1903
Thank you. The problem is that to get a price lower than U$D 3000 I have to resort to a used device. El 14/5/20 a las 01:08, Mehmet Akcin escribió:
Used Juniper QFX5100-48T will do it. Probably overkill but you can grab one cheap @ebay
On Wed, May 13, 2020 at 16:36 Mauro Gasparini <mjgasparini@gmail.com <mailto:mjgasparini@gmail.com>> wrote:
Good afternoon.
I'm looking for a switch with the following capabilities: . transport for more than 20 gbps . link aggregation LACP . slots for SFP+ . seamlessly when trunking vlans through the link aggregation.
And essentially that doesn't exceed US$D 2000 and is compatible with 10GBASE-ER and/or 10GBASE-ZR modules that are not from the vendor itself (e.g. SPFs: Huawei, Mikrotik, Sumitomo, OEMs).
If any of you have a good experience with a device that meets these requirements (which are minimal with the exception of price and compatibility) ?
Regards. Mauro Gasparini
-- Mehmet +1-424-298-1903
Have you actually looked at Mikrotik switches? I don't like the OS, but the hardware does what you want it to. https://mikrotik.com/products/group/switches?filter&s=c&r={%22sfp_plus_interface%22:{%22s%22:%223%22,%22e%22:%2224%22}}#! If necessary, buy your SFP modules from FS.com and get them coded as Mikrotik modules at the factory - that's what we do for Cisco, Brocade, Juniper, Extreme, etc. Even the top-of-the-line Mikrotik only costs US$899. -Adam Adam Thompson Consultant, Infrastructure Services [[MERLIN LOGO]] 100 - 135 Innovation Drive Winnipeg, MB, R3T 6A8 (204) 977-6824 or 1-800-430-6404 (MB only) athompson@merlin.mb.ca<mailto:athompson@merlin.mb.ca> www.merlin.mb.ca<http://www.merlin.mb.ca/> ________________________________ From: NANOG <nanog-bounces@nanog.org> on behalf of Mauro Gasparini <mjgasparini@gmail.com> Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2020 8:46:21 AM To: Mehmet Akcin Cc: nanog Subject: Re: Switch for SFP+ Thank you. The problem is that to get a price lower than U$D 3000 I have to resort to a used device. El 14/5/20 a las 01:08, Mehmet Akcin escribió: Used Juniper QFX5100-48T will do it. Probably overkill but you can grab one cheap @ebay On Wed, May 13, 2020 at 16:36 Mauro Gasparini <mjgasparini@gmail.com<mailto:mjgasparini@gmail.com>> wrote: Good afternoon. I'm looking for a switch with the following capabilities: . transport for more than 20 gbps . link aggregation LACP . slots for SFP+ . seamlessly when trunking vlans through the link aggregation. And essentially that doesn't exceed US$D 2000 and is compatible with 10GBASE-ER and/or 10GBASE-ZR modules that are not from the vendor itself (e.g. SPFs: Huawei, Mikrotik, Sumitomo, OEMs). If any of you have a good experience with a device that meets these requirements (which are minimal with the exception of price and compatibility) ? Regards. Mauro Gasparini -- Mehmet +1-424-298-1903
Hi, Mikrotik is a decent product and I'm always amazed at their features set, but... Using the UI to configuring the switch will punt too much traffic toward the CPU. However, it is possible to configure the switch fabric with the cli and attain the desired results. It does not compare to a JNP QFX5100 or a Extreme Network x650, x670... etc. ----- Alain Hebert ahebert@pubnix.net PubNIX Inc. 50 boul. St-Charles P.O. Box 26770 Beaconsfield, Quebec H9W 6G7 Tel: 514-990-5911 http://www.pubnix.net Fax: 514-990-9443 On 2020-05-14 15:11, Adam Thompson wrote:
Have you actually looked at Mikrotik switches? I don't like the OS, but the hardware does what you want it to.
If necessary, buy your SFP modules from FS.com and get them coded as Mikrotik modules at the factory - that's what we do for Cisco, Brocade, Juniper, Extreme, etc.
Even the top-of-the-line Mikrotik only costs US$899.
-Adam
*Adam Thompson* Consultant, Infrastructure Services [MERLIN LOGO] 100 - 135 Innovation Drive Winnipeg, MB, R3T 6A8 (204) 977-6824 or 1-800-430-6404 (MB only) athompson@merlin.mb.ca <mailto:athompson@merlin.mb.ca> www.merlin.mb.ca <http://www.merlin.mb.ca/>
------------------------------------------------------------------------ *From:* NANOG <nanog-bounces@nanog.org> on behalf of Mauro Gasparini <mjgasparini@gmail.com> *Sent:* Thursday, May 14, 2020 8:46:21 AM *To:* Mehmet Akcin *Cc:* nanog *Subject:* Re: Switch for SFP+ Thank you. The problem is that to get a price lower than U$D 3000 I have to resort to a used device.
El 14/5/20 a las 01:08, Mehmet Akcin escribió:
Used Juniper QFX5100-48T will do it. Probably overkill but you can grab one cheap @ebay
On Wed, May 13, 2020 at 16:36 Mauro Gasparini <mjgasparini@gmail.com <mailto:mjgasparini@gmail.com>> wrote:
Good afternoon.
I'm looking for a switch with the following capabilities: . transport for more than 20 gbps . link aggregation LACP . slots for SFP+ . seamlessly when trunking vlans through the link aggregation.
And essentially that doesn't exceed US$D 2000 and is compatible with 10GBASE-ER and/or 10GBASE-ZR modules that are not from the vendor itself (e.g. SPFs: Huawei, Mikrotik, Sumitomo, OEMs).
If any of you have a good experience with a device that meets these requirements (which are minimal with the exception of price and compatibility) ?
Regards. Mauro Gasparini
-- Mehmet +1-424-298-1903
Thanks. I am currently using CRS326-24G-2S+ (with routerOS) for this, but when I want to do vlan trunking through the bonding, cpu load grows from 3% to more than 90%. I'm consulting Mikrotik's support in the meantime, because routerOS probably doesn't take advantage of the switch hardware as swOS would. El 15/5/20 a las 10:03, Alain Hebert escribió:
Hi,
Mikrotik is a decent product and I'm always amazed at their features set, but...
Using the UI to configuring the switch will punt too much traffic toward the CPU. However, it is possible to configure the switch fabric with the cli and attain the desired results.
It does not compare to a JNP QFX5100 or a Extreme Network x650, x670... etc. ----- Alain Hebertahebert@pubnix.net PubNIX Inc. 50 boul. St-Charles P.O. Box 26770 Beaconsfield, Quebec H9W 6G7 Tel: 514-990-5911http://www.pubnix.net Fax: 514-990-9443 On 2020-05-14 15:11, Adam Thompson wrote:
Have you actually looked at Mikrotik switches? I don't like the OS, but the hardware does what you want it to.
If necessary, buy your SFP modules from FS.com and get them coded as Mikrotik modules at the factory - that's what we do for Cisco, Brocade, Juniper, Extreme, etc.
Even the top-of-the-line Mikrotik only costs US$899.
-Adam
*Adam Thompson* Consultant, Infrastructure Services [MERLIN LOGO] 100 - 135 Innovation Drive Winnipeg, MB, R3T 6A8 (204) 977-6824 or 1-800-430-6404 (MB only) athompson@merlin.mb.ca <mailto:athompson@merlin.mb.ca> www.merlin.mb.ca <http://www.merlin.mb.ca/>
------------------------------------------------------------------------ *From:* NANOG <nanog-bounces@nanog.org> on behalf of Mauro Gasparini <mjgasparini@gmail.com> *Sent:* Thursday, May 14, 2020 8:46:21 AM *To:* Mehmet Akcin *Cc:* nanog *Subject:* Re: Switch for SFP+ Thank you. The problem is that to get a price lower than U$D 3000 I have to resort to a used device.
El 14/5/20 a las 01:08, Mehmet Akcin escribió:
Used Juniper QFX5100-48T will do it. Probably overkill but you can grab one cheap @ebay
On Wed, May 13, 2020 at 16:36 Mauro Gasparini <mjgasparini@gmail.com <mailto:mjgasparini@gmail.com>> wrote:
Good afternoon.
I'm looking for a switch with the following capabilities: . transport for more than 20 gbps . link aggregation LACP . slots for SFP+ . seamlessly when trunking vlans through the link aggregation.
And essentially that doesn't exceed US$D 2000 and is compatible with 10GBASE-ER and/or 10GBASE-ZR modules that are not from the vendor itself (e.g. SPFs: Huawei, Mikrotik, Sumitomo, OEMs).
If any of you have a good experience with a device that meets these requirements (which are minimal with the exception of price and compatibility) ?
Regards. Mauro Gasparini
-- Mehmet +1-424-298-1903
https://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/Manual:CRS3xx_series_switches#Bonding ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mauro Gasparini" <mjgasparini@gmail.com> To: nanog@nanog.org Sent: Friday, May 15, 2020 8:55:22 AM Subject: Re: Switch for SFP+ Thanks. I am currently using CRS326-24G-2S+ (with routerOS) for this, but when I want to do vlan trunking through the bonding, cpu load grows from 3% to more than 90%. I'm consulting Mikrotik's support in the meantime, because routerOS probably doesn't take advantage of the switch hardware as swOS would. El 15/5/20 a las 10:03, Alain Hebert escribió: Hi, Mikrotik is a decent product and I'm always amazed at their features set, but... Using the UI to configuring the switch will punt too much traffic toward the CPU. However, it is possible to configure the switch fabric with the cli and attain the desired results. It does not compare to a JNP QFX5100 or a Extreme Network x650, x670... etc. ----- Alain Hebert ahebert@pubnix.net PubNIX Inc. 50 boul. St-Charles P.O. Box 26770 Beaconsfield, Quebec H9W 6G7 Tel: 514-990-5911 http://www.pubnix.net Fax: 514-990-9443 On 2020-05-14 15:11, Adam Thompson wrote: <blockquote> Have you actually looked at Mikrotik switches? I don't like the OS, but the hardware does what you want it to. https://mikrotik.com/products/group/switches?filter&s=c&r={%22sfp_plus_interface%22:{%22s%22:%223%22,%22e%22:%2224%22}}#! If necessary, buy your SFP modules from FS.com and get them coded as Mikrotik modules at the factory - that's what we do for Cisco, Brocade, Juniper, Extreme, etc. Even the top-of-the-line Mikrotik only costs US$899. -Adam Adam Thompson Consultant, Infrastructure Services [MERLIN LOGO] 100 - 135 Innovation Drive Winnipeg, MB, R3T 6A8 (204) 977-6824 or 1-800-430-6404 (MB only) athompson@merlin.mb.ca www.merlin.mb.ca From: NANOG <nanog-bounces@nanog.org> on behalf of Mauro Gasparini <mjgasparini@gmail.com> Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2020 8:46:21 AM To: Mehmet Akcin Cc: nanog Subject: Re: Switch for SFP+ Thank you. The problem is that to get a price lower than U$D 3000 I have to resort to a used device. El 14/5/20 a las 01:08, Mehmet Akcin escribió: <blockquote> Used Juniper QFX5100-48T will do it. Probably overkill but you can grab one cheap @ebay On Wed, May 13, 2020 at 16:36 Mauro Gasparini < mjgasparini@gmail.com > wrote: <blockquote> Good afternoon. I'm looking for a switch with the following capabilities: . transport for more than 20 gbps . link aggregation LACP . slots for SFP+ . seamlessly when trunking vlans through the link aggregation. And essentially that doesn't exceed US$D 2000 and is compatible with 10GBASE-ER and/or 10GBASE-ZR modules that are not from the vendor itself (e.g. SPFs: Huawei, Mikrotik, Sumitomo, OEMs). If any of you have a good experience with a device that meets these requirements (which are minimal with the exception of price and compatibility) ? Regards. Mauro Gasparini -- Mehmet +1-424-298-1903 </blockquote> </blockquote> </blockquote>
This works well on my CRSs: /interface bonding add mode=802.3ad name=bond-inet slaves=ether9,ether10,ether8 transmit-hash-policy=layer-2-and-3 /interface bridge port add bridge=br-cabase interface=bond-inet add bridge=br-cabase interface=sfp1 But if I want to bridge vlans behind some bonding Instead of bridging phy interfaces, cpu explodes: /interface vlan add name=vl201-mmen vlan-id=201 interface=sfp1 add name=vl201-mment vlan-id=201 interface=bond-inet /interface bridge port add bridge=br-mment interface=vl201-mmen add bridge=br-mment interface=vl201-mment El 15/5/20 a las 12:06, Mike Hammett escribió:
https://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/Manual:CRS3xx_series_switches#Bonding
----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL><https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb><https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions><https://twitter.com/ICSIL> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix><https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange><https://twitter.com/mdwestix> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp><https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ *From: *"Mauro Gasparini" <mjgasparini@gmail.com> *To: *nanog@nanog.org *Sent: *Friday, May 15, 2020 8:55:22 AM *Subject: *Re: Switch for SFP+
Thanks. I am currently using CRS326-24G-2S+ (with routerOS) for this, but when I want to do vlan trunking through the bonding, cpu load grows from 3% to more than 90%. I'm consulting Mikrotik's support in the meantime, because routerOS probably doesn't take advantage of the switch hardware as swOS would.
El 15/5/20 a las 10:03, Alain Hebert escribió:
Hi,
Mikrotik is a decent product and I'm always amazed at their features set, but...
Using the UI to configuring the switch will punt too much traffic toward the CPU. However, it is possible to configure the switch fabric with the cli and attain the desired results.
It does not compare to a JNP QFX5100 or a Extreme Network x650, x670... etc.
----- Alain Hebertahebert@pubnix.net PubNIX Inc. 50 boul. St-Charles P.O. Box 26770 Beaconsfield, Quebec H9W 6G7 Tel: 514-990-5911http://www.pubnix.net Fax: 514-990-9443
On 2020-05-14 15:11, Adam Thompson wrote:
Have you actually looked at Mikrotik switches? I don't like the OS, but the hardware does what you want it to.
If necessary, buy your SFP modules from FS.com and get them coded as Mikrotik modules at the factory - that's what we do for Cisco, Brocade, Juniper, Extreme, etc.
Even the top-of-the-line Mikrotik only costs US$899.
-Adam
*Adam Thompson* Consultant, Infrastructure Services [MERLIN LOGO] 100 - 135 Innovation Drive Winnipeg, MB, R3T 6A8 (204) 977-6824 or 1-800-430-6404 (MB only) athompson@merlin.mb.ca <mailto:athompson@merlin.mb.ca> www.merlin.mb.ca <http://www.merlin.mb.ca/>
------------------------------------------------------------------------ *From:* NANOG <nanog-bounces@nanog.org> on behalf of Mauro Gasparini <mjgasparini@gmail.com> *Sent:* Thursday, May 14, 2020 8:46:21 AM *To:* Mehmet Akcin *Cc:* nanog *Subject:* Re: Switch for SFP+ Thank you. The problem is that to get a price lower than U$D 3000 I have to resort to a used device.
El 14/5/20 a las 01:08, Mehmet Akcin escribió:
Used Juniper QFX5100-48T will do it. Probably overkill but you can grab one cheap @ebay
On Wed, May 13, 2020 at 16:36 Mauro Gasparini <mjgasparini@gmail.com <mailto:mjgasparini@gmail.com>> wrote:
Good afternoon.
I'm looking for a switch with the following capabilities: . transport for more than 20 gbps . link aggregation LACP . slots for SFP+ . seamlessly when trunking vlans through the link aggregation.
And essentially that doesn't exceed US$D 2000 and is compatible with 10GBASE-ER and/or 10GBASE-ZR modules that are not from the vendor itself (e.g. SPFs: Huawei, Mikrotik, Sumitomo, OEMs).
If any of you have a good experience with a device that meets these requirements (which are minimal with the exception of price and compatibility) ?
Regards. Mauro Gasparini
-- Mehmet +1-424-298-1903
On the CRS 3xx line, use vlan filtering instead. This guarantees hardware offloading. PS. Do not use this method on the 1xx or 2xx lines. /interface bonding add mode=802.3ad name=bond-inet slaves=ether9,ether10,ether8 transmit-hash-policy=layer-2-and-3 /interface bridge add name=bridge vlan-filtering=yes /interface bridge port add bridge=bridge interface=bond-inet add bridge=bridge interface=sfp1 /interface bridge vlan add bridge=bridge tagged=bond-inet,sfp1 vlan-ids=201 Thanks Travis From: NANOG <nanog-bounces@nanog.org> On Behalf Of Mauro Gasparini Sent: Friday, May 15, 2020 10:55 AM To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: Switch for SFP+ This works well on my CRSs: /interface bonding add mode=802.3ad name=bond-inet slaves=ether9,ether10,ether8 transmit-hash-policy=layer-2-and-3 /interface bridge port add bridge=br-cabase interface=bond-inet add bridge=br-cabase interface=sfp1 But if I want to bridge vlans behind some bonding Instead of bridging phy interfaces, cpu explodes: /interface vlan add name=vl201-mmen vlan-id=201 interface=sfp1 add name=vl201-mment vlan-id=201 interface=bond-inet /interface bridge port add bridge=br-mment interface=vl201-mmen add bridge=br-mment interface=vl201-mment El 15/5/20 a las 12:06, Mike Hammett escribió: https://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/Manual:CRS3xx_series_switches#Bonding ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions<http://www.ics-il.com/> [http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.png]<https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/googleicon.png]<https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/linkedinicon.png]<https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/twittericon.png]<https://twitter.com/ICSIL> Midwest Internet Exchange<http://www.midwest-ix.com/> [http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.png]<https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/linkedinicon.png]<https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/twittericon.png]<https://twitter.com/mdwestix> The Brothers WISP<http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> [http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.png]<https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/youtubeicon.png]<https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> ________________________________ From: "Mauro Gasparini" <mjgasparini@gmail.com><mailto:mjgasparini@gmail.com> To: nanog@nanog.org<mailto:nanog@nanog.org> Sent: Friday, May 15, 2020 8:55:22 AM Subject: Re: Switch for SFP+ Thanks. I am currently using CRS326-24G-2S+ (with routerOS) for this, but when I want to do vlan trunking through the bonding, cpu load grows from 3% to more than 90%. I'm consulting Mikrotik's support in the meantime, because routerOS probably doesn't take advantage of the switch hardware as swOS would. El 15/5/20 a las 10:03, Alain Hebert escribió: Hi, Mikrotik is a decent product and I'm always amazed at their features set, but... Using the UI to configuring the switch will punt too much traffic toward the CPU. However, it is possible to configure the switch fabric with the cli and attain the desired results. It does not compare to a JNP QFX5100 or a Extreme Network x650, x670... etc. ----- Alain Hebert ahebert@pubnix.net<mailto:ahebert@pubnix.net> PubNIX Inc. 50 boul. St-Charles P.O. Box 26770 Beaconsfield, Quebec H9W 6G7 Tel: 514-990-5911 http://www.pubnix.net Fax: 514-990-9443 On 2020-05-14 15:11, Adam Thompson wrote: Have you actually looked at Mikrotik switches? I don't like the OS, but the hardware does what you want it to. https://mikrotik.com/products/group/switches?filter&s=c&r={%22sfp_plus_interface%22:{%22s%22:%223%22,%22e%22:%2224%22}}#!<https://mikrotik.com/products/group/switches?filter&s=c&r=%7b%22sfp_plus_interface%22:%7b%22s%22:%223%22,%22e%22:%2224%22%7d%7d#!> If necessary, buy your SFP modules from FS.com and get them coded as Mikrotik modules at the factory - that's what we do for Cisco, Brocade, Juniper, Extreme, etc. Even the top-of-the-line Mikrotik only costs US$899. -Adam Adam Thompson Consultant, Infrastructure Services [[MERLIN LOGO]] 100 - 135 Innovation Drive Winnipeg, MB, R3T 6A8 (204) 977-6824 or 1-800-430-6404 (MB only) athompson@merlin.mb.ca<mailto:athompson@merlin.mb.ca> www.merlin.mb.ca<http://www.merlin.mb.ca/> ________________________________ From: NANOG <nanog-bounces@nanog.org><mailto:nanog-bounces@nanog.org> on behalf of Mauro Gasparini <mjgasparini@gmail.com><mailto:mjgasparini@gmail.com> Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2020 8:46:21 AM To: Mehmet Akcin Cc: nanog Subject: Re: Switch for SFP+ Thank you. The problem is that to get a price lower than U$D 3000 I have to resort to a used device. El 14/5/20 a las 01:08, Mehmet Akcin escribió: Used Juniper QFX5100-48T will do it. Probably overkill but you can grab one cheap @ebay On Wed, May 13, 2020 at 16:36 Mauro Gasparini <mjgasparini@gmail.com<mailto:mjgasparini@gmail.com>> wrote: Good afternoon. I'm looking for a switch with the following capabilities: . transport for more than 20 gbps . link aggregation LACP . slots for SFP+ . seamlessly when trunking vlans through the link aggregation. And essentially that doesn't exceed US$D 2000 and is compatible with 10GBASE-ER and/or 10GBASE-ZR modules that are not from the vendor itself (e.g. SPFs: Huawei, Mikrotik, Sumitomo, OEMs). If any of you have a good experience with a device that meets these requirements (which are minimal with the exception of price and compatibility) ? Regards. Mauro Gasparini -- Mehmet +1-424-298-1903
It's clear then that I must use "bridge vlan" to achieve the goal I am looking for. Now it's time for me to study, research and test on my side. If I have any specific questions, I will draw on your experience. Thanks a lot. El 15/5/20 a las 22:11, Travis Garrison escribió:
On the CRS 3xx line, use vlan filtering instead. This guarantees hardware offloading.
PS. Do not use this method on the 1xx or 2xx lines.
/interface bonding add mode=802.3ad name=bond-inet slaves=ether9,ether10,ether8 transmit-hash-policy=layer-2-and-3
/interface bridge
add name=bridge vlan-filtering=yes
/interface bridge port
add bridge=bridge interface=bond-inet
add bridge=bridge interface=sfp1
/interface bridge vlan
add bridge=bridge tagged=bond-inet,sfp1 vlan-ids=201
Thanks
Travis
*From:* NANOG <nanog-bounces@nanog.org> *On Behalf Of *Mauro Gasparini *Sent:* Friday, May 15, 2020 10:55 AM *To:* nanog@nanog.org *Subject:* Re: Switch for SFP+
This works well on my CRSs:
/interface bonding add mode=802.3ad name=bond-inet slaves=ether9,ether10,ether8 transmit-hash-policy=layer-2-and-3
/interface bridge port add bridge=br-cabase interface=bond-inet add bridge=br-cabase interface=sfp1
But if I want to bridge vlans behind some bonding Instead of bridging phy interfaces, cpu explodes:
/interface vlan add name=vl201-mmen vlan-id=201 interface=sfp1 add name=vl201-mment vlan-id=201 interface=bond-inet
/interface bridge port add bridge=br-mment interface=vl201-mmen add bridge=br-mment interface=vl201-mment
El 15/5/20 a las 12:06, Mike Hammett escribió:
https://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/Manual:CRS3xx_series_switches#Bonding
----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL><https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb><https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions><https://twitter.com/ICSIL> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix><https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange><https://twitter.com/mdwestix> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp><https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
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*From: *"Mauro Gasparini" <mjgasparini@gmail.com> <mailto:mjgasparini@gmail.com> *To: *nanog@nanog.org <mailto:nanog@nanog.org> *Sent: *Friday, May 15, 2020 8:55:22 AM *Subject: *Re: Switch for SFP+
Thanks. I am currently using CRS326-24G-2S+ (with routerOS) for this, but when I want to do vlan trunking through the bonding, cpu load grows from 3% to more than 90%. I'm consulting Mikrotik's support in the meantime, because routerOS probably doesn't take advantage of the switch hardware as swOS would.
El 15/5/20 a las 10:03, Alain Hebert escribió:
Hi,
Mikrotik is a decent product and I'm always amazed at their features set, but...
Using the UI to configuring the switch will punt too much traffic toward the CPU. However, it is possible to configure the switch fabric with the cli and attain the desired results.
It does not compare to a JNP QFX5100 or a Extreme Network x650, x670... etc.
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On 2020-05-14 15:11, Adam Thompson wrote:
Have you actually looked at Mikrotik switches? I don't like the OS, but the hardware does what you want it to.
https://mikrotik.com/products/group/switches?filter&s=c&r={%22sfp_plus_interface%22:{%22s%22:%223%22,%22e%22:%2224%22}}#! <https://mikrotik.com/products/group/switches?filter&s=c&r=%7b%22sfp_plus_interface%22:%7b%22s%22:%223%22,%22e%22:%2224%22%7d%7d#!>
If necessary, buy your SFP modules from FS.com and get them coded as Mikrotik modules at the factory - that's what we do for Cisco, Brocade, Juniper, Extreme, etc.
Even the top-of-the-line Mikrotik only costs US$899.
-Adam
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*From:*NANOG <nanog-bounces@nanog.org> <mailto:nanog-bounces@nanog.org> on behalf of Mauro Gasparini <mjgasparini@gmail.com> <mailto:mjgasparini@gmail.com> *Sent:* Thursday, May 14, 2020 8:46:21 AM *To:* Mehmet Akcin *Cc:* nanog *Subject:* Re: Switch for SFP+
Thank you. The problem is that to get a price lower than U$D 3000 I have to resort to a used device.
El 14/5/20 a las 01:08, Mehmet Akcin escribió:
Used Juniper QFX5100-48T will do it. Probably overkill but you can grab one cheap @ebay
On Wed, May 13, 2020 at 16:36 Mauro Gasparini <mjgasparini@gmail.com <mailto:mjgasparini@gmail.com>> wrote:
Good afternoon.
I'm looking for a switch with the following capabilities: . transport for more than 20 gbps . link aggregation LACP . slots for SFP+ . seamlessly when trunking vlans through the link aggregation.
And essentially that doesn't exceed US$D 2000 and is compatible with 10GBASE-ER and/or 10GBASE-ZR modules that are not from the vendor itself (e.g. SPFs: Huawei, Mikrotik, Sumitomo, OEMs).
If any of you have a good experience with a device that meets these requirements (which are minimal with the exception of price and compatibility) ?
Regards. Mauro Gasparini
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That's a downfall of Mikrotik, they give you ultimate power. You can do some pretty atypical things on there. ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mauro Gasparini" <mjgasparini@gmail.com> To: nanog@nanog.org Sent: Monday, May 18, 2020 1:45:59 PM Subject: Re: Switch for SFP+ It's clear then that I must use "bridge vlan" to achieve the goal I am looking for. Now it's time for me to study, research and test on my side. If I have any specific questions, I will draw on your experience. Thanks a lot. El 15/5/20 a las 22:11, Travis Garrison escribió: On the CRS 3xx line, use vlan filtering instead. This guarantees hardware offloading. PS. Do not use this method on the 1xx or 2xx lines. /interface bonding add mode=802.3ad name=bond-inet slaves=ether9,ether10,ether8 transmit-hash-policy=layer-2-and-3 /interface bridge add name=bridge vlan-filtering=yes /interface bridge port add bridge=bridge interface=bond-inet add bridge=bridge interface=sfp1 /interface bridge vlan add bridge=bridge tagged=bond-inet,sfp1 vlan-ids=201 Thanks Travis From: NANOG <nanog-bounces@nanog.org> On Behalf Of Mauro Gasparini Sent: Friday, May 15, 2020 10:55 AM To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: Switch for SFP+ This works well on my CRSs: /interface bonding add mode=802.3ad name=bond-inet slaves=ether9,ether10,ether8 transmit-hash-policy=layer-2-and-3 /interface bridge port add bridge=br-cabase interface=bond-inet add bridge=br-cabase interface=sfp1 But if I want to bridge vlans behind some bonding Instead of bridging phy interfaces, cpu explodes: /interface vlan add name=vl201-mmen vlan-id=201 interface=sfp1 add name=vl201-mment vlan-id=201 interface=bond-inet /interface bridge port add bridge=br-mment interface=vl201-mmen add bridge=br-mment interface=vl201-mment El 15/5/20 a las 12:06, Mike Hammett escribió: <blockquote> https://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/Manual:CRS3xx_series_switches#Bonding ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mauro Gasparini" <mjgasparini@gmail.com> To: nanog@nanog.org Sent: Friday, May 15, 2020 8:55:22 AM Subject: Re: Switch for SFP+ Thanks. I am currently using CRS326-24G-2S+ (with routerOS) for this, but when I want to do vlan trunking through the bonding, cpu load grows from 3% to more than 90%. I'm consulting Mikrotik's support in the meantime, because routerOS probably doesn't take advantage of the switch hardware as swOS would. El 15/5/20 a las 10:03, Alain Hebert escribió: <blockquote> Hi, Mikrotik is a decent product and I'm always amazed at their features set, but... Using the UI to configuring the switch will punt too much traffic toward the CPU. However, it is possible to configure the switch fabric with the cli and attain the desired results. It does not compare to a JNP QFX5100 or a Extreme Network x650, x670... etc. ----- Alain Hebert ahebert@pubnix.net PubNIX Inc. 50 boul. St-Charles P.O. Box 26770 Beaconsfield, Quebec H9W 6G7 Tel: 514-990-5911 http://www.pubnix.net Fax: 514-990-9443 On 2020-05-14 15:11, Adam Thompson wrote: <blockquote> Have you actually looked at Mikrotik switches? I don't like the OS, but the hardware does what you want it to. https://mikrotik.com/products/group/switches?filter&s=c&r={%22sfp_plus_interface%22:{%22s%22:%223%22,%22e%22:%2224%22}}#! If necessary, buy your SFP modules from FS.com and get them coded as Mikrotik modules at the factory - that's what we do for Cisco, Brocade, Juniper, Extreme, etc. Even the top-of-the-line Mikrotik only costs US$899. -Adam Adam Thompson Consultant, Infrastructure Services [MERLIN LOGO] 100 - 135 Innovation Drive Winnipeg, MB, R3T 6A8 (204) 977-6824 or 1-800-430-6404 (MB only) athompson@merlin.mb.ca www.merlin.mb.ca From: NANOG <nanog-bounces@nanog.org> on behalf of Mauro Gasparini <mjgasparini@gmail.com> Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2020 8:46:21 AM To: Mehmet Akcin Cc: nanog Subject: Re: Switch for SFP+ Thank you. The problem is that to get a price lower than U$D 3000 I have to resort to a used device. El 14/5/20 a las 01:08, Mehmet Akcin escribió: <blockquote> Used Juniper QFX5100-48T will do it. Probably overkill but you can grab one cheap @ebay On Wed, May 13, 2020 at 16:36 Mauro Gasparini < mjgasparini@gmail.com > wrote: <blockquote> Good afternoon. I'm looking for a switch with the following capabilities: . transport for more than 20 gbps . link aggregation LACP . slots for SFP+ . seamlessly when trunking vlans through the link aggregation. And essentially that doesn't exceed US$D 2000 and is compatible with 10GBASE-ER and/or 10GBASE-ZR modules that are not from the vendor itself (e.g. SPFs: Huawei, Mikrotik, Sumitomo, OEMs). If any of you have a good experience with a device that meets these requirements (which are minimal with the exception of price and compatibility) ? Regards. Mauro Gasparini -- Mehmet +1-424-298-1903 </blockquote> </blockquote> </blockquote> </blockquote> </blockquote>
Yep, run SwichOS, prevents you from running things in software. 😊 [LTI-Full_175px] Dennis Burgess, Mikrotik Certified Trainer MTCNA, MTCRE, MTCWE, MTCTCE, MTCINE, MTCSE, HE IPv6 Sage, Cambium ePMP Certified Author of "Learn RouterOS- Second Edition” Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik & WISP Support Services Office: 314-735-0270 Website: http://www.linktechs.net<http://www.linktechs.net/> Create Wireless Coverage’s with www.towercoverage.com From: NANOG <nanog-bounces@nanog.org> On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Monday, May 18, 2020 4:37 PM To: Mauro Gasparini <mjgasparini@gmail.com> Cc: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: Switch for SFP+ That's a downfall of Mikrotik, they give you ultimate power. 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Now it's time for me to study, research and test on my side. If I have any specific questions, I will draw on your experience. Thanks a lot. El 15/5/20 a las 22:11, Travis Garrison escribió: On the CRS 3xx line, use vlan filtering instead. This guarantees hardware offloading. PS. Do not use this method on the 1xx or 2xx lines. /interface bonding add mode=802.3ad name=bond-inet slaves=ether9,ether10,ether8 transmit-hash-policy=layer-2-and-3 /interface bridge add name=bridge vlan-filtering=yes /interface bridge port add bridge=bridge interface=bond-inet add bridge=bridge interface=sfp1 /interface bridge vlan add bridge=bridge tagged=bond-inet,sfp1 vlan-ids=201 Thanks Travis From: NANOG <nanog-bounces@nanog.org><mailto:nanog-bounces@nanog.org> On Behalf Of Mauro Gasparini Sent: Friday, May 15, 2020 10:55 AM To: nanog@nanog.org<mailto:nanog@nanog.org> Subject: Re: Switch for SFP+ This works well on my CRSs: /interface bonding add mode=802.3ad name=bond-inet slaves=ether9,ether10,ether8 transmit-hash-policy=layer-2-and-3 /interface bridge port add bridge=br-cabase interface=bond-inet add bridge=br-cabase interface=sfp1 But if I want to bridge vlans behind some bonding Instead of bridging phy interfaces, cpu explodes: /interface vlan add name=vl201-mmen vlan-id=201 interface=sfp1 add name=vl201-mment vlan-id=201 interface=bond-inet /interface bridge port add bridge=br-mment interface=vl201-mmen add bridge=br-mment interface=vl201-mment El 15/5/20 a las 12:06, Mike Hammett escribió: https://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/Manual:CRS3xx_series_switches#Bonding ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions<https://imsva91-ctp.trendmicro.com:443/wis/clicktime/v1/query?url=http%3a%2f%2fwww.ics%2dil.com&umid=B47E9451-A5F3-0D05-8BDE-9FDBD4B4C161&auth=079c058f437b7c6303d36c6513e5e8848d0c5ac4-285b59a47041a35803b05fa3a991e89443b374c5> [https://imsva91-ctp.trendmicro.com:443/wis/clicktime/v1/query?url=http%3a%2f%2fwww.ics%2dil.com%2fimages%2ffbicon.png%5d&umid=B47E9451-A5F3-0D05-8BDE-9FDBD4B4C161&auth=079c058f437b7c6303d36c6513e5e8848d0c5ac4-c5ec4171d8eb30d5845a6c42bb158eac5049c875<https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>[https://imsva91-ctp.trendmicro.com:443/wis/clicktime/v1/query?url=http%3a%2f%2fwww.ics%2dil.com%2fimages%2fgoogleicon.png%5d&umid=B47E9451-A5F3-0D05-8BDE-9FDBD4B4C161&auth=079c058f437b7c6303d36c6513e5e8848d0c5ac4-be2e4edf2d685ea567f2602c305bfa048c02fad1<https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>[https://imsva91-ctp.trendmicro.com:443/wis/clicktime/v1/query?url=http%3a%2f%2fwww.ics%2dil.com%2fimages%2flinkedinicon.png%5d&umid=B47E9451-A5F3-0D05-8BDE-9FDBD4B4C161&auth=079c058f437b7c6303d36c6513e5e8848d0c5ac4-9b0374f5aaaaa186eee94c15990608340f801b26<https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>[https://imsva91-ctp.trendmicro.com:443/wis/clicktime/v1/query?url=http%3a%2f%2fwww.ics%2dil.com%2fimages%2ftwittericon.png%5d&umid=B47E9451-A5F3-0D05-8BDE-9FDBD4B4C161&auth=079c058f437b7c6303d36c6513e5e8848d0c5ac4-5022b39587706bd2ec7239629cf89dc0926aa6a9<https://twitter.com/ICSIL> Midwest Internet Exchange<http://www.midwest-ix.com/> [https://imsva91-ctp.trendmicro.com:443/wis/clicktime/v1/query?url=http%3a%2f%2fwww.ics%2dil.com%2fimages%2ffbicon.png%5d&umid=B47E9451-A5F3-0D05-8BDE-9FDBD4B4C161&auth=079c058f437b7c6303d36c6513e5e8848d0c5ac4-c5ec4171d8eb30d5845a6c42bb158eac5049c875<https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>[https://imsva91-ctp.trendmicro.com:443/wis/clicktime/v1/query?url=http%3a%2f%2fwww.ics%2dil.com%2fimages%2flinkedinicon.png%5d&umid=B47E9451-A5F3-0D05-8BDE-9FDBD4B4C161&auth=079c058f437b7c6303d36c6513e5e8848d0c5ac4-9b0374f5aaaaa186eee94c15990608340f801b26<https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>[https://imsva91-ctp.trendmicro.com:443/wis/clicktime/v1/query?url=http%3a%2f%2fwww.ics%2dil.com%2fimages%2ftwittericon.png%5d&umid=B47E9451-A5F3-0D05-8BDE-9FDBD4B4C161&auth=079c058f437b7c6303d36c6513e5e8848d0c5ac4-5022b39587706bd2ec7239629cf89dc0926aa6a9<https://twitter.com/mdwestix> The Brothers WISP<http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> [https://imsva91-ctp.trendmicro.com:443/wis/clicktime/v1/query?url=http%3a%2f%2fwww.ics%2dil.com%2fimages%2ffbicon.png%5d&umid=B47E9451-A5F3-0D05-8BDE-9FDBD4B4C161&auth=079c058f437b7c6303d36c6513e5e8848d0c5ac4-c5ec4171d8eb30d5845a6c42bb158eac5049c875<https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>[https://imsva91-ctp.trendmicro.com:443/wis/clicktime/v1/query?url=http%3a%2f%2fwww.ics%2dil.com%2fimages%2fyoutubeicon.png%5d&umid=B47E9451-A5F3-0D05-8BDE-9FDBD4B4C161&auth=079c058f437b7c6303d36c6513e5e8848d0c5ac4-c3a2a0a72aa5c9ab369580d4aacc6f70b7e85886<https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> ________________________________ From: "Mauro Gasparini" <mjgasparini@gmail.com><mailto:mjgasparini@gmail.com> To: nanog@nanog.org<mailto:nanog@nanog.org> Sent: Friday, May 15, 2020 8:55:22 AM Subject: Re: Switch for SFP+ Thanks. I am currently using CRS326-24G-2S+ (with routerOS) for this, but when I want to do vlan trunking through the bonding, cpu load grows from 3% to more than 90%. I'm consulting Mikrotik's support in the meantime, because routerOS probably doesn't take advantage of the switch hardware as swOS would. El 15/5/20 a las 10:03, Alain Hebert escribió: Hi, Mikrotik is a decent product and I'm always amazed at their features set, but... Using the UI to configuring the switch will punt too much traffic toward the CPU. However, it is possible to configure the switch fabric with the cli and attain the desired results. It does not compare to a JNP QFX5100 or a Extreme Network x650, x670... etc. ----- Alain Hebert ahebert@pubnix.net<mailto:ahebert@pubnix.net> PubNIX Inc. 50 boul. St-Charles P.O. Box 26770 Beaconsfield, Quebec H9W 6G7 Tel: 514-990-5911 http://www.pubnix.net Fax: 514-990-9443 On 2020-05-14 15:11, Adam Thompson wrote: Have you actually looked at Mikrotik switches? I don't like the OS, but the hardware does what you want it to. https://mikrotik.com/products/group/switches?filter&s=c&r={%22sfp_plus_interface%22:{%22s%22:%223%22,%22e%22:%2224%22}}#!<https://mikrotik.com/products/group/switches?filter&s=c&r=%7b%22sfp_plus_interface%22:%7b%22s%22:%223%22,%22e%22:%2224%22%7d%7d#!> If necessary, buy your SFP modules from FS.com and get them coded as Mikrotik modules at the factory - that's what we do for Cisco, Brocade, Juniper, Extreme, etc. Even the top-of-the-line Mikrotik only costs US$899. -Adam Adam Thompson Consultant, Infrastructure Services [[MERLIN LOGO]] 100 - 135 Innovation Drive Winnipeg, MB, R3T 6A8 (204) 977-6824 or 1-800-430-6404 (MB only) athompson@merlin.mb.ca<mailto:athompson@merlin.mb.ca> www.merlin.mb.ca<http://www.merlin.mb.ca/> ________________________________ From: NANOG <nanog-bounces@nanog.org><mailto:nanog-bounces@nanog.org> on behalf of Mauro Gasparini <mjgasparini@gmail.com><mailto:mjgasparini@gmail.com> Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2020 8:46:21 AM To: Mehmet Akcin Cc: nanog Subject: Re: Switch for SFP+ Thank you. The problem is that to get a price lower than U$D 3000 I have to resort to a used device. El 14/5/20 a las 01:08, Mehmet Akcin escribió: Used Juniper QFX5100-48T will do it. Probably overkill but you can grab one cheap @ebay On Wed, May 13, 2020 at 16:36 Mauro Gasparini <mjgasparini@gmail.com<mailto:mjgasparini@gmail.com>> wrote: Good afternoon. I'm looking for a switch with the following capabilities: . transport for more than 20 gbps . link aggregation LACP . slots for SFP+ . seamlessly when trunking vlans through the link aggregation. And essentially that doesn't exceed US$D 2000 and is compatible with 10GBASE-ER and/or 10GBASE-ZR modules that are not from the vendor itself (e.g. SPFs: Huawei, Mikrotik, Sumitomo, OEMs). If any of you have a good experience with a device that meets these requirements (which are minimal with the exception of price and compatibility) ? Regards. Mauro Gasparini -- Mehmet +1-424-298-1903
I could never get LACP + tagged VLANs to work on SwOS. Then again, it doesn't work reliably on RouterOS either, so I gave up. Spending more on hardware that is well supported is worth it versus my time and sanity. I think Ubiquiti pretty much has the "cheap hardware that works well, but commercial support lacking" market cornered. thanks, -Randy ----- On May 18, 2020, at 5:43 PM, nanog <nanog@nanog.org> wrote:
Yep, run SwichOS, prevents you from running things in software. 😊
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From: NANOG <nanog-bounces@nanog.org> On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Monday, May 18, 2020 4:37 PM To: Mauro Gasparini <mjgasparini@gmail.com> Cc: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: Switch for SFP+
That's a downfall of Mikrotik, they give you ultimate power. You can do some pretty atypical things on there.
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From: "Mauro Gasparini" < [ mailto:mjgasparini@gmail.com | mjgasparini@gmail.com ] > To: [ mailto:nanog@nanog.org | nanog@nanog.org ] Sent: Monday, May 18, 2020 1:45:59 PM Subject: Re: Switch for SFP+
It's clear then that I must use "bridge vlan" to achieve the goal I am looking for. Now it's time for me to study, research and test on my side. If I have any specific questions, I will draw on your experience. Thanks a lot.
El 15/5/20 a las 22:11, Travis Garrison escribió:
On the CRS 3xx line, use vlan filtering instead. This guarantees hardware offloading.
PS. Do not use this method on the 1xx or 2xx lines.
/interface bonding add mode=802.3ad name=bond-inet slaves=ether9,ether10,ether8 transmit-hash-policy=layer-2-and-3
/interface bridge
add name=bridge vlan-filtering=yes
/interface bridge port
add bridge=bridge interface=bond-inet
add bridge=bridge interface=sfp1
/interface bridge vlan
add bridge=bridge tagged=bond-inet,sfp1 vlan-ids=201
Thanks
Travis
From: NANOG [ mailto:nanog-bounces@nanog.org | <nanog-bounces@nanog.org> ] On Behalf Of Mauro Gasparini Sent: Friday, May 15, 2020 10:55 AM To: [ mailto:nanog@nanog.org | nanog@nanog.org ] Subject: Re: Switch for SFP+
This works well on my CRSs:
/interface bonding add mode=802.3ad name=bond-inet slaves=ether9,ether10,ether8 transmit-hash-policy=layer-2-and-3
/interface bridge port add bridge=br-cabase interface=bond-inet add bridge=br-cabase interface=sfp1
But if I want to bridge vlans behind some bonding Instead of bridging phy interfaces, cpu explodes:
/interface vlan add name=vl201-mmen vlan-id=201 interface=sfp1 add name=vl201-mment vlan-id=201 interface=bond-inet
/interface bridge port add bridge=br-mment interface=vl201-mmen add bridge=br-mment interface=vl201-mment
El 15/5/20 a las 12:06, Mike Hammett escribió:
[ https://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/Manual:CRS3xx_series_switches#Bonding | https://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/Manual:CRS3xx_series_switches#Bonding ]
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From: "Mauro Gasparini" [ mailto:mjgasparini@gmail.com | <mjgasparini@gmail.com> ] To: [ mailto:nanog@nanog.org | nanog@nanog.org ] Sent: Friday, May 15, 2020 8:55:22 AM Subject: Re: Switch for SFP+
Thanks. I am currently using CRS326-24G-2S+ (with routerOS) for this, but when I want to do vlan trunking through the bonding, cpu load grows from 3% to more than 90%. I'm consulting Mikrotik's support in the meantime, because routerOS probably doesn't take advantage of the switch hardware as swOS would.
El 15/5/20 a las 10:03, Alain Hebert escribió:
Hi,
Mikrotik is a decent product and I'm always amazed at their features set, but...
Using the UI to configuring the switch will punt too much traffic toward the CPU. However, it is possible to configure the switch fabric with the cli and attain the desired results.
It does not compare to a JNP QFX5100 or a Extreme Network x650, x670... etc. ----- Alain Hebert [ mailto:ahebert@pubnix.net | ahebert@pubnix.net ] PubNIX Inc. 50 boul. St-Charles P.O. Box 26770 Beaconsfield, Quebec H9W 6G7 Tel: 514-990-5911 [ http://www.pubnix.net/ | http://www.pubnix.net ] Fax: 514-990-9443
On 2020-05-14 15:11, Adam Thompson wrote:
Have you actually looked at Mikrotik switches? I don't like the OS, but the hardware does what you want it to.
[ https://mikrotik.com/products/group/switches?filter&s=c&r=%7b%22sfp_plus_interface%22:%7b%22s%22:%223%22,%22e%22:%2224%22%7d%7d#! | https://mikrotik.com/products/group/switches?filter&s=c&r={%22sfp_plus_interface%22:{%22s%22:%223%22,%22e%22:%2224%22}}#! ]
If necessary, buy your SFP modules from FS.com and get them coded as Mikrotik modules at the factory - that's what we do for Cisco, Brocade, Juniper, Extreme, etc.
Even the top-of-the-line Mikrotik only costs US$899.
-Adam
Adam Thompson Consultant, Infrastructure Services
100 - 135 Innovation Drive Winnipeg, MB, R3T 6A8 (204) 977-6824 or 1-800-430-6404 (MB only) [ mailto:athompson@merlin.mb.ca | athompson@merlin.mb.ca ] [ http://www.merlin.mb.ca/ | www.merlin.mb.ca ]
From: NANOG [ mailto:nanog-bounces@nanog.org | <nanog-bounces@nanog.org> ] on behalf of Mauro Gasparini [ mailto:mjgasparini@gmail.com | <mjgasparini@gmail.com> ] Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2020 8:46:21 AM To: Mehmet Akcin Cc: nanog Subject: Re: Switch for SFP+
Thank you. The problem is that to get a price lower than U$D 3000 I have to resort to a used device.
El 14/5/20 a las 01:08, Mehmet Akcin escribió:
Used Juniper QFX5100-48T will do it. Probably overkill but you can grab one cheap @ebay
On Wed, May 13, 2020 at 16:36 Mauro Gasparini < [ mailto:mjgasparini@gmail.com | mjgasparini@gmail.com ] > wrote:
> Good afternoon.
> I'm looking for a switch with the following capabilities: > . transport for more than 20 gbps > . link aggregation LACP > . slots for SFP+ > . seamlessly when trunking vlans through the link aggregation.
> And essentially that doesn't exceed US$D 2000 and is compatible with > 10GBASE-ER and/or 10GBASE-ZR modules that are not from the vendor itself > (e.g. SPFs: Huawei, Mikrotik, Sumitomo, OEMs).
> If any of you have a good experience with a device that meets these > requirements (which are minimal with the exception of price and > compatibility) ?
> Regards. > Mauro Gasparini --
Mehmet +1-424-298-1903
LACP+tagged VLANs is not a problem for me on RouterOS. I'm not wasting my time on SwOS. In general, Mikrotik's L2 switching implementation is very frustrating, but I think it's gotten a bit better on the CRS3XX series of switches. On Mon, May 18, 2020 at 5:53 PM Randy Carpenter <rcarpen@network1.net> wrote:
I could never get LACP + tagged VLANs to work on SwOS.
Then again, it doesn't work reliably on RouterOS either, so I gave up. Spending more on hardware that is well supported is worth it versus my time and sanity.
I think Ubiquiti pretty much has the "cheap hardware that works well, but commercial support lacking" market cornered.
thanks, -Randy
----- On May 18, 2020, at 5:43 PM, nanog <nanog@nanog.org> wrote:
Yep, run SwichOS, prevents you from running things in software. 😊
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*From:* NANOG <nanog-bounces@nanog.org> *On Behalf Of *Mike Hammett *Sent:* Monday, May 18, 2020 4:37 PM *To:* Mauro Gasparini <mjgasparini@gmail.com> *Cc:* nanog@nanog.org *Subject:* Re: Switch for SFP+
That's a downfall of Mikrotik, they give you ultimate power. You can do some pretty atypical things on there.
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*From: *"Mauro Gasparini" <mjgasparini@gmail.com> *To: *nanog@nanog.org *Sent: *Monday, May 18, 2020 1:45:59 PM *Subject: *Re: Switch for SFP+
It's clear then that I must use "bridge vlan" to achieve the goal I am looking for. Now it's time for me to study, research and test on my side. If I have any specific questions, I will draw on your experience. Thanks a lot.
El 15/5/20 a las 22:11, Travis Garrison escribió:
On the CRS 3xx line, use vlan filtering instead. This guarantees hardware offloading.
PS. Do not use this method on the 1xx or 2xx lines.
/interface bonding add mode=802.3ad name=bond-inet slaves=ether9,ether10,ether8 transmit-hash-policy=layer-2-and-3
/interface bridge
add name=bridge vlan-filtering=yes
/interface bridge port
add bridge=bridge interface=bond-inet
add bridge=bridge interface=sfp1
/interface bridge vlan
add bridge=bridge tagged=bond-inet,sfp1 vlan-ids=201
Thanks
Travis
*From:* NANOG <nanog-bounces@nanog.org> <nanog-bounces@nanog.org> *On Behalf Of *Mauro Gasparini *Sent:* Friday, May 15, 2020 10:55 AM *To:* nanog@nanog.org *Subject:* Re: Switch for SFP+
This works well on my CRSs:
/interface bonding add mode=802.3ad name=bond-inet slaves=ether9,ether10,ether8 transmit-hash-policy=layer-2-and-3
/interface bridge port add bridge=br-cabase interface=bond-inet add bridge=br-cabase interface=sfp1
But if I want to bridge vlans behind some bonding Instead of bridging phy interfaces, cpu explodes:
/interface vlan add name=vl201-mmen vlan-id=201 interface=sfp1 add name=vl201-mment vlan-id=201 interface=bond-inet
/interface bridge port add bridge=br-mment interface=vl201-mmen add bridge=br-mment interface=vl201-mment
El 15/5/20 a las 12:06, Mike Hammett escribió:
https://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/Manual:CRS3xx_series_switches#Bonding
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*From: *"Mauro Gasparini" <mjgasparini@gmail.com> <mjgasparini@gmail.com> *To: *nanog@nanog.org *Sent: *Friday, May 15, 2020 8:55:22 AM *Subject: *Re: Switch for SFP+
Thanks. I am currently using CRS326-24G-2S+ (with routerOS) for this, but when I want to do vlan trunking through the bonding, cpu load grows from 3% to more than 90%. I'm consulting Mikrotik's support in the meantime, because routerOS probably doesn't take advantage of the switch hardware as swOS would.
El 15/5/20 a las 10:03, Alain Hebert escribió:
Hi,
Mikrotik is a decent product and I'm always amazed at their features set, but...
Using the UI to configuring the switch will punt too much traffic toward the CPU. However, it is possible to configure the switch fabric with the cli and attain the desired results.
It does not compare to a JNP QFX5100 or a Extreme Network x650, x670... etc.
-----
Alain Hebert ahebert@pubnix.net
PubNIX Inc.
50 boul. St-Charles
P.O. Box 26770 Beaconsfield, Quebec H9W 6G7
Tel: 514-990-5911 http://www.pubnix.net Fax: 514-990-9443
On 2020-05-14 15:11, Adam Thompson wrote:
Have you actually looked at Mikrotik switches? I don't like the OS, but the hardware does what you want it to.
https://mikrotik.com/products/group/switches?filter&s=c&r={%22sfp_plus_interface%22:{%22s%22:%223%22,%22e%22:%2224%22}}#! <https://mikrotik.com/products/group/switches?filter&s=c&r=%7b%22sfp_plus_interface%22:%7b%22s%22:%223%22,%22e%22:%2224%22%7d%7d#!>
If necessary, buy your SFP modules from FS.com and get them coded as Mikrotik modules at the factory - that's what we do for Cisco, Brocade, Juniper, Extreme, etc.
Even the top-of-the-line Mikrotik only costs US$899.
-Adam
*Adam Thompson* Consultant, Infrastructure Services [image: [MERLIN LOGO]] 100 - 135 Innovation Drive Winnipeg, MB, R3T 6A8 (204) 977-6824 or 1-800-430-6404 (MB only) athompson@merlin.mb.ca www.merlin.mb.ca
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*From:* NANOG <nanog-bounces@nanog.org> <nanog-bounces@nanog.org> on behalf of Mauro Gasparini <mjgasparini@gmail.com> <mjgasparini@gmail.com> *Sent:* Thursday, May 14, 2020 8:46:21 AM *To:* Mehmet Akcin *Cc:* nanog *Subject:* Re: Switch for SFP+
Thank you. The problem is that to get a price lower than U$D 3000 I have to resort to a used device.
El 14/5/20 a las 01:08, Mehmet Akcin escribió:
Used Juniper QFX5100-48T will do it. Probably overkill but you can grab one cheap @ebay
On Wed, May 13, 2020 at 16:36 Mauro Gasparini <mjgasparini@gmail.com> wrote:
Good afternoon.
I'm looking for a switch with the following capabilities: . transport for more than 20 gbps . link aggregation LACP . slots for SFP+ . seamlessly when trunking vlans through the link aggregation.
And essentially that doesn't exceed US$D 2000 and is compatible with 10GBASE-ER and/or 10GBASE-ZR modules that are not from the vendor itself (e.g. SPFs: Huawei, Mikrotik, Sumitomo, OEMs).
If any of you have a good experience with a device that meets these requirements (which are minimal with the exception of price and compatibility) ?
Regards. Mauro Gasparini
--
Mehmet +1-424-298-1903
It doesn't matter whether you use Winbox, web interface, or CLI, the same configuration capabilities exist. The determination is how you configure it, what version of RouterOS you have, and what the hardware you have is capable of. The CRS3xx series are the easiest to configure, with the older CRS and switch chips in various other products of theirs getting progressively more difficult and more limited in hardware-accelerated features. ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alain Hebert" <ahebert@pubnix.net> To: nanog@nanog.org Sent: Friday, May 15, 2020 8:03:13 AM Subject: Re: Switch for SFP+ Hi, Mikrotik is a decent product and I'm always amazed at their features set, but... Using the UI to configuring the switch will punt too much traffic toward the CPU. However, it is possible to configure the switch fabric with the cli and attain the desired results. It does not compare to a JNP QFX5100 or a Extreme Network x650, x670... etc. ----- Alain Hebert ahebert@pubnix.net PubNIX Inc. 50 boul. St-Charles P.O. Box 26770 Beaconsfield, Quebec H9W 6G7 Tel: 514-990-5911 http://www.pubnix.net Fax: 514-990-9443 On 2020-05-14 15:11, Adam Thompson wrote: Have you actually looked at Mikrotik switches? I don't like the OS, but the hardware does what you want it to. https://mikrotik.com/products/group/switches?filter&s=c&r={%22sfp_plus_interface%22:{%22s%22:%223%22,%22e%22:%2224%22}}#! If necessary, buy your SFP modules from FS.com and get them coded as Mikrotik modules at the factory - that's what we do for Cisco, Brocade, Juniper, Extreme, etc. Even the top-of-the-line Mikrotik only costs US$899. -Adam Adam Thompson Consultant, Infrastructure Services [MERLIN LOGO] 100 - 135 Innovation Drive Winnipeg, MB, R3T 6A8 (204) 977-6824 or 1-800-430-6404 (MB only) athompson@merlin.mb.ca www.merlin.mb.ca From: NANOG <nanog-bounces@nanog.org> on behalf of Mauro Gasparini <mjgasparini@gmail.com> Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2020 8:46:21 AM To: Mehmet Akcin Cc: nanog Subject: Re: Switch for SFP+ Thank you. The problem is that to get a price lower than U$D 3000 I have to resort to a used device. El 14/5/20 a las 01:08, Mehmet Akcin escribió: <blockquote> Used Juniper QFX5100-48T will do it. Probably overkill but you can grab one cheap @ebay On Wed, May 13, 2020 at 16:36 Mauro Gasparini < mjgasparini@gmail.com > wrote: <blockquote> Good afternoon. I'm looking for a switch with the following capabilities: . transport for more than 20 gbps . link aggregation LACP . slots for SFP+ . seamlessly when trunking vlans through the link aggregation. And essentially that doesn't exceed US$D 2000 and is compatible with 10GBASE-ER and/or 10GBASE-ZR modules that are not from the vendor itself (e.g. SPFs: Huawei, Mikrotik, Sumitomo, OEMs). If any of you have a good experience with a device that meets these requirements (which are minimal with the exception of price and compatibility) ? Regards. Mauro Gasparini -- Mehmet +1-424-298-1903 </blockquote> </blockquote>
Yes, cpu loads a little more only when you are logged. The rest of the time is the same. El 15/5/20 a las 12:05, Mike Hammett escribió:
It doesn't matter whether you use Winbox, web interface, or CLI, the same configuration capabilities exist.
The determination is how you configure it, what version of RouterOS you have, and what the hardware you have is capable of. The CRS3xx series are the easiest to configure, with the older CRS and switch chips in various other products of theirs getting progressively more difficult and more limited in hardware-accelerated features.
------------------------------------------------------------------------ *From: *"Alain Hebert" <ahebert@pubnix.net> *To: *nanog@nanog.org *Sent: *Friday, May 15, 2020 8:03:13 AM *Subject: *Re: Switch for SFP+
Hi,
Mikrotik is a decent product and I'm always amazed at their features set, but...
Using the UI to configuring the switch will punt too much traffic toward the CPU. However, it is possible to configure the switch fabric with the cli and attain the desired results.
It does not compare to a JNP QFX5100 or a Extreme Network x650, x670... etc. ----- Alain Hebertahebert@pubnix.net PubNIX Inc. 50 boul. St-Charles P.O. Box 26770 Beaconsfield, Quebec H9W 6G7 Tel: 514-990-5911http://www.pubnix.net Fax: 514-990-9443 On 2020-05-14 15:11, Adam Thompson wrote:
Have you actually looked at Mikrotik switches? I don't like the OS, but the hardware does what you want it to.
If necessary, buy your SFP modules from FS.com and get them coded as Mikrotik modules at the factory - that's what we do for Cisco, Brocade, Juniper, Extreme, etc.
Even the top-of-the-line Mikrotik only costs US$899.
-Adam
*Adam Thompson* Consultant, Infrastructure Services [MERLIN LOGO] 100 - 135 Innovation Drive Winnipeg, MB, R3T 6A8 (204) 977-6824 or 1-800-430-6404 (MB only) athompson@merlin.mb.ca <mailto:athompson@merlin.mb.ca> www.merlin.mb.ca <http://www.merlin.mb.ca/>
------------------------------------------------------------------------ *From:* NANOG <nanog-bounces@nanog.org> on behalf of Mauro Gasparini <mjgasparini@gmail.com> *Sent:* Thursday, May 14, 2020 8:46:21 AM *To:* Mehmet Akcin *Cc:* nanog *Subject:* Re: Switch for SFP+ Thank you. The problem is that to get a price lower than U$D 3000 I have to resort to a used device.
El 14/5/20 a las 01:08, Mehmet Akcin escribió:
Used Juniper QFX5100-48T will do it. Probably overkill but you can grab one cheap @ebay
On Wed, May 13, 2020 at 16:36 Mauro Gasparini <mjgasparini@gmail.com <mailto:mjgasparini@gmail.com>> wrote:
Good afternoon.
I'm looking for a switch with the following capabilities: . transport for more than 20 gbps . link aggregation LACP . slots for SFP+ . seamlessly when trunking vlans through the link aggregation.
And essentially that doesn't exceed US$D 2000 and is compatible with 10GBASE-ER and/or 10GBASE-ZR modules that are not from the vendor itself (e.g. SPFs: Huawei, Mikrotik, Sumitomo, OEMs).
If any of you have a good experience with a device that meets these requirements (which are minimal with the exception of price and compatibility) ?
Regards. Mauro Gasparini
-- Mehmet +1-424-298-1903
https://mikrotik.com/product/crs312_4c_8xg_rm Regards, Nathan Babcock President - Straight Shot Wireless O: 575-208-7915 <http://www.sswireless.net/> From: NANOG <nanog-bounces@nanog.org> On Behalf Of Mauro Gasparini Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2020 7:46 AM To: Mehmet Akcin <mehmet@akcin.net> Cc: nanog <nanog@nanog.org> Subject: Re: Switch for SFP+ Thank you. The problem is that to get a price lower than U$D 3000 I have to resort to a used device. El 14/5/20 a las 01:08, Mehmet Akcin escribió: Used Juniper QFX5100-48T will do it. Probably overkill but you can grab one cheap @ebay On Wed, May 13, 2020 at 16:36 Mauro Gasparini <mjgasparini@gmail.com <mailto:mjgasparini@gmail.com> > wrote: Good afternoon. I'm looking for a switch with the following capabilities: . transport for more than 20 gbps . link aggregation LACP . slots for SFP+ . seamlessly when trunking vlans through the link aggregation. And essentially that doesn't exceed US$D 2000 and is compatible with 10GBASE-ER and/or 10GBASE-ZR modules that are not from the vendor itself (e.g. SPFs: Huawei, Mikrotik, Sumitomo, OEMs). If any of you have a good experience with a device that meets these requirements (which are minimal with the exception of price and compatibility) ? Regards. Mauro Gasparini -- Mehmet +1-424-298-1903
Hello Mauro, the ICX7250-24P-2X10G may fit. 2×10 GbE SFP+, 6x1 GbE, can be licensed for full 8x10G. Regards Jörg On 13 May 2020, at 20:56, Mauro Gasparini wrote:
Good afternoon.
I'm looking for a switch with the following capabilities: . transport for more than 20 gbps . link aggregation LACP . slots for SFP+ . seamlessly when trunking vlans through the link aggregation.
And essentially that doesn't exceed US$D 2000 and is compatible with 10GBASE-ER and/or 10GBASE-ZR modules that are not from the vendor itself (e.g. SPFs: Huawei, Mikrotik, Sumitomo, OEMs).
If any of you have a good experience with a device that meets these requirements (which are minimal with the exception of price and compatibility) ?
Regards. Mauro Gasparini
While I am not sure on the optics support - what about a Ubiquiti EdgeSwitch 16XG? 12x SFP+ ports 4x RJ-45 Ports https://www.ui.com/edgemax/edgeswitch-16-xg/ It isn't expandable - but maybe 12xSFP+ is enough? On Wed, May 13, 2020 at 5:37 PM Mauro Gasparini <mjgasparini@gmail.com> wrote:
Good afternoon.
I'm looking for a switch with the following capabilities: . transport for more than 20 gbps . link aggregation LACP . slots for SFP+ . seamlessly when trunking vlans through the link aggregation.
And essentially that doesn't exceed US$D 2000 and is compatible with 10GBASE-ER and/or 10GBASE-ZR modules that are not from the vendor itself (e.g. SPFs: Huawei, Mikrotik, Sumitomo, OEMs).
If any of you have a good experience with a device that meets these requirements (which are minimal with the exception of price and compatibility) ?
Regards. Mauro Gasparini
I have no experience with Ubiquiti EdgeSwitch. I know its wireless product very wel, but I have no knowledge of how switches behave. El 14/5/20 a las 16:13, Kevin Shymkiw escribió:
While I am not sure on the optics support - what about a Ubiquiti EdgeSwitch 16XG?
12x SFP+ ports 4x RJ-45 Ports
https://www.ui.com/edgemax/edgeswitch-16-xg/
It isn't expandable - but maybe 12xSFP+ is enough?
On Wed, May 13, 2020 at 5:37 PM Mauro Gasparini <mjgasparini@gmail.com <mailto:mjgasparini@gmail.com>> wrote:
Good afternoon.
I'm looking for a switch with the following capabilities: . transport for more than 20 gbps . link aggregation LACP . slots for SFP+ . seamlessly when trunking vlans through the link aggregation.
And essentially that doesn't exceed US$D 2000 and is compatible with 10GBASE-ER and/or 10GBASE-ZR modules that are not from the vendor itself (e.g. SPFs: Huawei, Mikrotik, Sumitomo, OEMs).
If any of you have a good experience with a device that meets these requirements (which are minimal with the exception of price and compatibility) ?
Regards. Mauro Gasparini
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