Surely Microsoft has IPv6 connectivity? Is there a problem with my dns, or is Microsoft not available over v6? Thanks, Nich
There is C:\Users\jluthman>dig -t aaaa www.microsoft.com +short toggle.www.ms.akadns.net. www.microsoft.com-c.edgekey.net. www.microsoft.com-c.edgekey.net.globalredir.akadns.net. e10088.dspb.akamaiedge.net. 2600:1407:10:390::2768 2600:1407:10:389::2768 Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Jul 14, 2015 at 3:33 PM, Nicholas Warren <nwarren@barryelectric.com> wrote:
Surely Microsoft has IPv6 connectivity? Is there a problem with my dns, or is Microsoft not available over v6?
Thanks, Nich
On Tue, Jul 14, 2015 at 3:37 PM, Josh Luthman <josh@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
There is
And there isn't ~$ dig -t AAAA www.microsoft.com +short toggle.www.ms.akadns.net. www.microsoft.com-c.edgekey.net. www.microsoft.com-c.edgekey.net.globalredir.akadns.net. e10088.dspb.akamaiedge.net. ~$ host e10088.dspb.akamaiedge.net e10088.dspb.akamaiedge.net has address 23.220.92.16 -Jim P.
On Tue, Jul 14, 2015 at 3:48 PM, Jim Popovitch <jimpop@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, Jul 14, 2015 at 3:37 PM, Josh Luthman <josh@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
There is
And there isn't
~$ dig -t AAAA www.microsoft.com +short toggle.www.ms.akadns.net. www.microsoft.com-c.edgekey.net. www.microsoft.com-c.edgekey.net.globalredir.akadns.net. e10088.dspb.akamaiedge.net.
~$ host e10088.dspb.akamaiedge.net e10088.dspb.akamaiedge.net has address 23.220.92.16
BTW, the issue is Google Public DNS: ~$ dig -t AAAA www.microsoft.com +short @2001:4860:4860::8888 toggle.www.ms.akadns.net. www.microsoft.com-c.edgekey.net. www.microsoft.com-c.edgekey.net.globalredir.akadns.net. e10088.dspb.akamaiedge.net. 2600:1408:17:28e::2768 2600:1408:17:280::2768 ~$ dig -t AAAA www.microsoft.com +short @8.8.8.8 toggle.www.ms.akadns.net. www.microsoft.com-c.edgekey.net. www.microsoft.com-c.edgekey.net.globalredir.akadns.net. e10088.dspb.akamaiedge.net. -Jim P.
On Tue, Jul 14, 2015 at 5:22 PM, <A.L.M.Buxey@lboro.ac.uk> wrote:
Hi,
No. My DNS (using the roots) gets it right. ;-)
so if you choose google DNS you dont see the right stuff..in which case its your DNS and not microsoft or Akamai not doing IPv6 ;-) same true for OpenDNS? likely...
Dude, it was a test I ran for Nicholas... not my dns. It doesn't mean something is internal or related to a person just because they post some data here. Do I need to spoon feed you the test data that I posted earlier? -Jim P.
On Jul 14, 2015, at 5:26 PM, Jim Popovitch <jimpop@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, Jul 14, 2015 at 5:22 PM, <A.L.M.Buxey@lboro.ac.uk> wrote:
Hi,
No. My DNS (using the roots) gets it right. ;-)
so if you choose google DNS you dont see the right stuff..in which case its your DNS and not microsoft or Akamai not doing IPv6 ;-) same true for OpenDNS? likely...
Dude, it was a test I ran for Nicholas... not my dns. It doesn't mean something is internal or related to a person just because they post some data here.
Do I need to spoon feed you the test data that I posted earlier?
Perhaps the smiley? :) I think the general statement is that if someone uses Google DNS they may not be getting the full IPv6 experience which may be surprising to some people. I’m not sure why google would filter the AAAA responses, or if it’s something else happening but it does make me wonder what other queries that google would get wrong. - Jared
On Tue, Jul 14, 2015 at 5:42 PM, Jared Mauch <jared@puck.nether.net> wrote:
On Jul 14, 2015, at 5:26 PM, Jim Popovitch <jimpop@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, Jul 14, 2015 at 5:22 PM, <A.L.M.Buxey@lboro.ac.uk> wrote:
Hi,
No. My DNS (using the roots) gets it right. ;-)
so if you choose google DNS you dont see the right stuff..in which case its your DNS and not microsoft or Akamai not doing IPv6 ;-) same true for OpenDNS? likely...
Dude, it was a test I ran for Nicholas... not my dns. It doesn't mean something is internal or related to a person just because they post some data here.
Do I need to spoon feed you the test data that I posted earlier?
Perhaps the smiley? :)
Yes. ;-) :) -Jim P.
Umm, ok so your saying you get AAAA records for "microsoft.com" I am Not talking about www.microsoft.com I agree that it has AAAA records. But the request was for "microsoft.com" And as noted other domains without the WWW might not have AAAA Records. Sincerely, Mark Keymer CFO/COO Vivio Technologies On 7/14/2015 2:22 PM, A.L.M.Buxey@lboro.ac.uk wrote:
Hi,
No. My DNS (using the roots) gets it right. ;-) so if you choose google DNS you dont see the right stuff..in which case its your DNS and not microsoft or Akamai not doing IPv6 ;-) same true for OpenDNS? likely...
alan
www.microsoft.com seems to pass these checks for me: http://ipv6-test.com/validate.php Perhaps they have some other site that doesn't have it enabled? - Jared On Tue, Jul 14, 2015 at 07:33:19PM +0000, Nicholas Warren wrote:
Surely Microsoft has IPv6 connectivity? Is there a problem with my dns, or is Microsoft not available over v6?
Thanks, Nich
-- Jared Mauch | pgp key available via finger from jared@puck.nether.net clue++; | http://puck.nether.net/~jared/ My statements are only mine.
I agree that www.microsoft.com passes. But it looks like microsoft.com does not. sincerely, Mark Keymer CFO/COO Vivio Technologies On 7/14/2015 12:39 PM, Jared Mauch wrote:
www.microsoft.com seems to pass these checks for me:
http://ipv6-test.com/validate.php
Perhaps they have some other site that doesn't have it enabled?
- Jared
On Tue, Jul 14, 2015 at 07:33:19PM +0000, Nicholas Warren wrote:
Surely Microsoft has IPv6 connectivity? Is there a problem with my dns, or is Microsoft not available over v6?
Thanks, Nich
On Tue, 14 Jul 2015, Jared Mauch wrote:
www.microsoft.com seems to pass these checks for me:
http://ipv6-test.com/validate.php
Perhaps they have some other site that doesn't have it enabled?
http://www.mrp.net/cgi-bin/ipv6-status.cgi SMTP fails for both microsoft.com and xbox.com live.com has only DNS. bing.com is a total fail. Antonio Querubin e-mail: tony@lavanauts.org xmpp: antonioquerubin@gmail.com
Hi, however...this revelation is shocking...my users can access www.microsoft.com material via IPv6?? turn this filth off!! ;-) alan
Microsoft is highly IPv6 connected. nslookup
set type=AAAA www.microsoft.com. Server: 206.83.0.42 Address: 206.83.0.42#53
Non-authoritative answer: www.microsoft.com canonical name = toggle.www.ms.akadns.net. toggle.www.ms.akadns.net canonical name = www.microsoft.com-c.edgekey.net. www.microsoft.com-c.edgekey.net canonical name = www.microsoft.com-c.edgekey.net.globalredir.akadns.net. www.microsoft.com-c.edgekey.net.globalredir.akadns.net canonical name = e10088.dspb.akamaiedge.net. e10088.dspb.akamaiedge.net has AAAA address 2600:1406:34:280::2768 e10088.dspb.akamaiedge.net has AAAA address 2600:1406:34:288::2768 What did you lookup? -mel beckman
On Jul 14, 2015, at 12:34 PM, Nicholas Warren <nwarren@barryelectric.com> wrote:
Surely Microsoft has IPv6 connectivity? Is there a problem with my dns, or is Microsoft not available over v6?
Thanks, Nich
In article <C26ABA0F2E16624EA737DB4674DC05AB167B25F3@mail.baec.local> you write:
Surely Microsoft has IPv6 connectivity? Is there a problem with my dns, or is Microsoft not available over v6?
Looks like it's your DNS. ; <<>> DiG 9.10.2-P2 <<>> www.microsoft.com aaaa ;; global options: +cmd ;; Got answer: ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 16645 ;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 5, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 1 ;; OPT PSEUDOSECTION: ; EDNS: version: 0, flags:; udp: 4096 ;; QUESTION SECTION: ;www.microsoft.com. IN AAAA ;; ANSWER SECTION: www.microsoft.com. 3559 IN CNAME toggle.www.ms.akadns.net. toggle.www.ms.akadns.net. 260 IN CNAME www.microsoft.com-c.edgekey.net. www.microsoft.com-c.edgekey.net. 21560 IN CNAME www.microsoft.com-c.edgekey.net.globalredir.akadns.net. www.microsoft.com-c.edgekey.net.globalredir.akadns.net. 3560 IN CNAME e10088.dspb.akamaiedge.net. e10088.dspb.akamaiedge.net. 9 IN AAAA 2600:1408:10:18f::2768
On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 4:33 AM, Nicholas Warren <nwarren@barryelectric.com> wrote:
Surely Microsoft has IPv6 connectivity? Is there a problem with my dns, or is Microsoft not available over v6?
Thanks, Nich
probably not Google DNS filtering test point 1 $ dig e10088.dspb.akamaiedge.net AAAA @n0dspb.akamaiedge.net ; <<>> DiG 9.10.2-P2 <<>> e10088.dspb.akamaiedge.net AAAA @n0dspb.akamaiedge.net ;; global options: +cmd ;; Got answer: ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 51914 ;; flags: qr aa rd ad; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 1, ADDITIONAL: 1 ;; WARNING: recursion requested but not available ;; OPT PSEUDOSECTION: ; EDNS: version: 0, flags:; udp: 4096 ;; QUESTION SECTION: ;e10088.dspb.akamaiedge.net. IN AAAA ;; AUTHORITY SECTION: dspb.akamaiedge.net. 1000 IN SOA n0dspb.akamaiedge.net. hostmaster.akamai.com. 1436917052 1000 1000 1000 1800 ;; Query time: 51 msec ;; SERVER: 96.7.248.137#53(96.7.248.137) ;; WHEN: Wed Jul 15 08:37:32 KST 2015 ;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 119 test point 2 $ dig e10088.dspb.akamaiedge.net AAAA @n0dspb.akamaiedge.net ; <<>> DiG 9.8.1-P1 <<>> e10088.dspb.akamaiedge.net AAAA @n0dspb.akamaiedge.net ;; global options: +cmd ;; Got answer: ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 27887 ;; flags: qr aa rd; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 3, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 0 ;; WARNING: recursion requested but not available ;; QUESTION SECTION: ;e10088.dspb.akamaiedge.net. IN AAAA ;; ANSWER SECTION: e10088.dspb.akamaiedge.net. 20 IN AAAA 2600:1408:10:18f::2768 e10088.dspb.akamaiedge.net. 20 IN AAAA 2600:1408:10:181::2768 e10088.dspb.akamaiedge.net. 20 IN AAAA 2600:1408:10:188::2768 ;; Query time: 18 msec ;; SERVER: 88.221.81.193#53(88.221.81.193) ;; WHEN: Tue Jul 14 16:37:17 2015 ;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 128 I get different IPs for n0dspb.akamaiedge.net / n0dscb.akamaiedge.net every time. So it depends on source IP of the query and which akamai DNS server is answering?
Thanks for the tests that show the NODATA is from the authoritative nameserver. To clarify, Google DNS does not filter either AAAA or any of these domains. Yunhong On Tue, Jul 14, 2015 at 8:05 PM, Yang Yu <yang.yu.list@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 4:33 AM, Nicholas Warren <nwarren@barryelectric.com> wrote:
Surely Microsoft has IPv6 connectivity? Is there a problem with my dns, or is Microsoft not available over v6?
Thanks, Nich
probably not Google DNS filtering
test point 1
$ dig e10088.dspb.akamaiedge.net AAAA @n0dspb.akamaiedge.net
; <<>> DiG 9.10.2-P2 <<>> e10088.dspb.akamaiedge.net AAAA @ n0dspb.akamaiedge.net ;; global options: +cmd ;; Got answer: ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 51914 ;; flags: qr aa rd ad; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 1, ADDITIONAL: 1 ;; WARNING: recursion requested but not available
;; OPT PSEUDOSECTION: ; EDNS: version: 0, flags:; udp: 4096 ;; QUESTION SECTION: ;e10088.dspb.akamaiedge.net. IN AAAA
;; AUTHORITY SECTION: dspb.akamaiedge.net. 1000 IN SOA n0dspb.akamaiedge.net. hostmaster.akamai.com. 1436917052 1000 1000 1000 1800
;; Query time: 51 msec ;; SERVER: 96.7.248.137#53(96.7.248.137) ;; WHEN: Wed Jul 15 08:37:32 KST 2015 ;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 119
test point 2
$ dig e10088.dspb.akamaiedge.net AAAA @n0dspb.akamaiedge.net
; <<>> DiG 9.8.1-P1 <<>> e10088.dspb.akamaiedge.net AAAA @ n0dspb.akamaiedge.net ;; global options: +cmd ;; Got answer: ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 27887 ;; flags: qr aa rd; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 3, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 0 ;; WARNING: recursion requested but not available
;; QUESTION SECTION: ;e10088.dspb.akamaiedge.net. IN AAAA
;; ANSWER SECTION: e10088.dspb.akamaiedge.net. 20 IN AAAA 2600:1408:10:18f::2768 e10088.dspb.akamaiedge.net. 20 IN AAAA 2600:1408:10:181::2768 e10088.dspb.akamaiedge.net. 20 IN AAAA 2600:1408:10:188::2768
;; Query time: 18 msec ;; SERVER: 88.221.81.193#53(88.221.81.193) ;; WHEN: Tue Jul 14 16:37:17 2015 ;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 128
I get different IPs for n0dspb.akamaiedge.net / n0dscb.akamaiedge.net every time.
So it depends on source IP of the query and which akamai DNS server is answering?
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A.L.M.Buxey＠lboro.ac.uk -
Antonio Querubin -
Daniel C. Eckert -
Jared Mauch -
Jared Mauch
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Jim Popovitch -
John Levine -
Josh Luthman -
Mark Keymer -
Mel Beckman -
Nicholas Warren -
Yang Yu -
Yunhong Gu