I appreciate the suggestion! That's something to consider if our requirements expand globally. Right now the focus is N.A., but I threw EMEA & APAC in there. I've had enough trouble with broadcast storms and other issues in N.A., so I don't have much of an appetite for magnifying those issues on a global scale! - Chris On Thu, Dec 31, 2015 at 7:49 PM, Ca By <cb.list6@gmail.com> wrote:

On Thursday, December 31, 2015, Chris Burwell <cburwell@gmail.com> wrote:

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Hi NANOG,

I'm looking to solicit feedback on VPLS providers. The requirement is for connectivity among about ten sites in North America, however feedback for providers that also extend service to EMEA and APAC would also be welcome.

All types of feedback are appreciated (good, bad, and anything in between).

Thanks,

- Chris

Sorry for the meta suggestion, but i think you would be much happier with an L3 vpn. It is a more common offering and avoid transcontinental broadcast storms

In 2016 we will start seeing first massive EVPN deployments. If you really need L2 with multihoming and BGP FRR speeds in service recovery - look for EVPN, otherwise, as mentioned below - L3 is your friend. Regards, Jeff

On Jan 1, 2016, at 7:21 AM, Nick Hilliard <nick@foobar.org> wrote:

Chris Burwell wrote:

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I've had enough trouble with broadcast storms and other issues in N.A.

And you still want vpls? Wow.

If you're talking a requirement for connecting geographically separated locations, there are sound technical reasons for avoiding vpls like the plague. Unless there are overriding technical reasons why it wouldn't work, l3vpn will almost always provide a far better quality service.

Nick

On Mon, Jan 4, 2016 at 4:19 AM, Mark Tinka <mark.tinka@seacom.mu> wrote:

Almost every time a customer has asked me for VPLS (or EVPN), they've been just fine with l3vpn as a suggested alternative.

Other customers are all about doing their own routing...

there are complications with an L3 vpn solution that L2/vpls doesn't bring along... and sometimes VPLS is cheaper than a wave/ptp-link ... and all I want is a ptp....