Hi NANOG,
From May 18th to June 18th Georgia Tech will conduct an Internet routing study using AS-PATH poisoning. We will insert AS numbers into one of our announcements to route around some networks.
The study will *only* affect the the Georgia Tech prefix 168.62.16.0/24. The prefix serves *no active users* for the duration of study. We will always start AS-PATH with our own AS 47065. We will limit ourselves to 10 announcement changes per hour. If, for any reason, you want us not to poison our prefix with you AS number, please opt-out at any time at: http://www.surveymonkey.com/s/WGLV6QR Regards, Vytautas Valancius http://valas.gtnoise.net/ Georgia Tech
At 21:43 11/05/2011 -0400, Vytautas Valancius wrote:
Hi NANOG,
From May 18th to June 18th Georgia Tech will conduct an Internet routing study using AS-PATH poisoning. We will insert AS numbers into one of our announcements to route around some networks.
The study will *only* affect the the Georgia Tech prefix 168.62.16.0/24. The prefix serves *no active users* for the duration of study. We will always start AS-PATH with our own AS 47065. We will limit ourselves to 10 announcement changes per hour.
If, for any reason, you want us not to poison our prefix with you AS number, please opt-out at any time at: http://www.surveymonkey.com/s/WGLV6QR
Kudos for doing the right thing. -Hank
Regards, Vytautas Valancius http://valas.gtnoise.net/ Georgia Tech
er... this is not a GATech prefix and I would appreciate it if they would at least notify me ahead of time if they want to futz around with prefixes that are not registered to them. NetRange: 168.61.0.0 - 168.63.255.255 CIDR: 168.62.0.0/15, 168.61.0.0/16 OriginAS: NetName: JAM NetHandle: NET-168-61-0-0-1 Parent: NET-168-0-0-0-0 NetType: Direct Assignment RegDate: 1995-02-09 Updated: 2009-07-21 Ref: http://whois.arin.net/rest/net/NET-168-61-0-0-1 OrgName: EP.NET, LLC. OrgId: EPB-Z Address: PO 12317 City: Marina del Rey StateProv: CA PostalCode: 90295 Country: US RegDate: 2007-11-29 Updated: 2007-11-29 Ref: http://whois.arin.net/rest/org/EPB-Z OrgTechHandle: WM110-ARIN OrgTechName: Manning, Bill OrgTechPhone: +1-310-322-8102 OrgTechEmail: bmanning@vacation.karoshi.com OrgTechRef: http://whois.arin.net/rest/poc/WM110-ARIN /bill On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 09:43:45PM -0400, Vytautas Valancius wrote:
Hi NANOG,
From May 18th to June 18th Georgia Tech will conduct an Internet routing study using AS-PATH poisoning. We will insert AS numbers into one of our announcements to route around some networks.
The study will *only* affect the the Georgia Tech prefix 168.62.16.0/24. The prefix serves *no active users* for the duration of study. We will always start AS-PATH with our own AS 47065. We will limit ourselves to 10 announcement changes per hour.
If, for any reason, you want us not to poison our prefix with you AS number, please opt-out at any time at: http://www.surveymonkey.com/s/WGLV6QR
Regards, Vytautas Valancius http://valas.gtnoise.net/ Georgia Tech
On May 12, 2011, at 6:30 AM, <bmanning@vacation.karoshi.com> <bmanning@vacation.karoshi.com> wrote:
er… d I would appreciate it if they would at least notify me ahead of time if they want to futz around with prefixes that are not registered to them.
er…. isn't that exactly what they just did, notified you ahead of time? the test starts on the 18th. helps to read before you jump! -g -- This message and any attachments may contain confidential and/or privileged information for the sole use of the intended recipient. Any review or distribution by anyone other than the person for whom it was originally intended is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please contact the sender and delete all copies. Opinions, conclusions or other information contained in this message may not be that of the organization.
On May 12, 2011, at 12:38 PM, Stefan Bethke wrote:
Am 12.05.2011 um 18:02 schrieb Greg Whynott:
helps to read before you jump!
I think he might be referring to the fact that the prefix supposedly used to conduct the test is his, not Georgia Tech's.
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perhaps. i should of reframed and not said anything since it added nothing. sorry bmanning. -g
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I think he might be referring to the fact that the prefix supposedly used to conduct the test is his, not Georgia Tech's.
Yes, it's indeed part of Bill's space, but on temporary loan (SWIP) for GENI/GaTech: --- whois -h rr.arin.net 168.62.16.0/24 [...] route: 168.62.16.0/21 descr: gtnoise.net (research group at GaTech) origin: AS47065 mnt-by: MNT-GIT source: ARIN # Filtered --- Sorry if it caused confusion! I should have synced this with Bill before announcement. Regards, Vytautas Valancius http://valas.gtnoise.net Georgia Tech
the loan was for a short term project, at least as was explained to me. continuing to use it three years later ... not so good. esp since I have other use earmarked for it. please remove the swip and stop using the address space. /bill On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 02:00:45PM -0400, Vytautas Valancius wrote:
I think he might be referring to the fact that the prefix supposedly used to conduct the test is his, not Georgia Tech's.
Yes, it's indeed part of Bill's space, but on temporary loan (SWIP) for GENI/GaTech:
--- whois -h rr.arin.net 168.62.16.0/24 [...] route: 168.62.16.0/21 descr: gtnoise.net (research group at GaTech) origin: AS47065 mnt-by: MNT-GIT source: ARIN # Filtered ---
Sorry if it caused confusion! I should have synced this with Bill before announcement.
Regards, Vytautas Valancius http://valas.gtnoise.net Georgia Tech
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On May 12, 2011, at 6:30 AM, <bmanning@vacation.karoshi.com> <bmanning@vacation.karoshi.com> wrote:
I would appreciate it if they would at least notify me ahead of time if they want to futz around with prefixes that are not registered to them.
er…. isn't that exactly what they just did, notified you ahead of time? the test starts on the 18th.
helps to read before you jump!
Well, Greg, I'm *pretty* sure Bill meant "ahead of time before they make a big public announcement". That said, I can't imagine that this isn't a typo, or a record-keeping error. Cheers, -- jra -- Jay R. Ashworth Baylink jra@baylink.com Designer The Things I Think RFC 2100 Ashworth & Associates http://baylink.pitas.com 2000 Land Rover DII St Petersburg FL USA http://photo.imageinc.us +1 727 647 1274
their use agreement ended in 2008. telling the nanog world they are going to reuse it three years later is not exactly what most would consider prior notice to the registered holder that they would like to do a research project wiht resources that are not registered to them. /bill On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 12:02:55PM -0400, Greg Whynott wrote:
On May 12, 2011, at 6:30 AM, <bmanning@vacation.karoshi.com> <bmanning@vacation.karoshi.com> wrote:
erb& d I would appreciate it if they would at least notify me ahead of time if they want to futz around with prefixes that are not registered to them.
erb&. isn't that exactly what they just did, notified you ahead of time? the test starts on the 18th.
helps to read before you jump!
-g
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My guess would be that someone didn't get the memo about the use agreement ending since they apparently still were listed in whois. Just a thought. Might have been a legitimate mistake from a position of ignorance, not knowing that they weren't still the registered resource holder. Owen On May 13, 2011, at 2:22 PM, bmanning@vacation.karoshi.com wrote:
their use agreement ended in 2008. telling the nanog world they are going to reuse it three years later is not exactly what most would consider prior notice to the registered holder that they would like to do a research project wiht resources that are not registered to them.
/bill
On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 12:02:55PM -0400, Greg Whynott wrote:
On May 12, 2011, at 6:30 AM, <bmanning@vacation.karoshi.com> <bmanning@vacation.karoshi.com> wrote:
erb d I would appreciate it if they would at least notify me ahead of time if they want to futz around with prefixes that are not registered to them.
erb
helps to read before you jump!
-g
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