Our new ISP is asking that I create a maintainer object in the RADB and associated AS/Routes for us to be about to eBGP peer. This is the first time I've been asked by a provider to do this for something as simple as peering to advertise a couple /24's. I've peered with ATT, Sprint, UUnet, Qwest, Savvis, SBC, and Internap in the past and never had to do anything but have a valid ASN provided by ARIN. Is this just so they can dynamically build their prefix/as-path lists? Why would I need to do this and what advantages are there. Cost to register with RADB is $250/year and I want to understand it before I shell out. Thanks, -=Vandy=-
Our new ISP is asking that I create a maintainer object in the RADB and associated AS/Routes for us to be about to eBGP peer.
congrats. you got a quality provider who cares about good safe routing practice.
Is this just so they can dynamically build their prefix/as-path lists?
i would hope they do.
Why would I need to do this and what advantages are there. Cost to register with RADB is $250/year and I want to understand it before I shell out.
the providers i know who want irr registration provide their own registry for their customers. if yours does not, there are free registries around. randy
On Thu, 19 Jun 2003, Randy Bush wrote:
the providers i know who want irr registration provide their own registry for their customers. if yours does not, there are free registries around.
Just in case they don't, or if you'd rather be provider neutral in case you switch providers or worry the current one will get bought / go under, there's altdb.net (totally free), and IIRC, ARIN has their own routing registry, which I think is free for ARIN members to use. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Jon Lewis *jlewis@lewis.org*| I route System Administrator | therefore you are Atlantic Net | _________ http://www.lewis.org/~jlewis/pgp for PGP public key_________
Just for clarification, ARIN's Routing Registry is available to any organization or entity, and is not reserved for use by its members only. Currently there is no fee associated with registering in the ARIN RR. For further details, please refer to the following link on ARIN's website: http://www.arin.net/tools/rr.html Regards, Leslie Nobile Director, Registration Services American Registry for Internet Numbers (ARIN) -----Original Message----- From: owner-nanog@merit.edu [mailto:owner-nanog@merit.edu] On Behalf Of jlewis@lewis.org Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2003 7:04 PM To: Randy Bush Cc: Vandy Hamidi; nanog@merit.edu Subject: Re: IRR/RADB and BGP On Thu, 19 Jun 2003, Randy Bush wrote:
the providers i know who want irr registration provide their own registry for their customers. if yours does not, there are free registries around.
Just in case they don't, or if you'd rather be provider neutral in case you switch providers or worry the current one will get bought / go under, there's altdb.net (totally free), and IIRC, ARIN has their own routing registry, which I think is free for ARIN members to use. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Jon Lewis *jlewis@lewis.org*| I route System Administrator | therefore you are Atlantic Net | _________ http://www.lewis.org/~jlewis/pgp for PGP public key_________
Register for free at : http://www.altdb.net James Edwards Routing and Security jamesh@cybermesa.com At the Santa Fe Office: Internet at Cyber Mesa
Vandy Hamidi wrote:
Our new ISP is asking that I create a maintainer object in the RADB and associated AS/Routes for us to be about to eBGP peer. This is the first time I've been asked by a provider to do this for something as simple as peering to advertise a couple /24's.
I've peered with ATT, Sprint, UUnet, Qwest, Savvis, SBC, and Internap in the past and never had to do anything but have a valid ASN provided by ARIN.
Hey, wait a minute! You've peered with SBCIS and not set up an aut-num and route objects in the RADB? For shame! That's our policy, too. Get with it!
Is this just so they can dynamically build their prefix/as-path lists?
It's to avoid having Sprint mocked by L3.
Why would I need to do this and what advantages are there. Cost to register with RADB is $250/year and I want to understand it before I shell out.
Use ARIN's IRR or AltDB, then. But wouldn't it be nice to support the RADB, and our good friends at Merit? Heck, you could donate a few grand -- I'm sure they'd accept it. Peter E. Fry
On Thu, Jun 19, 2003 at 03:30:32PM -0700, Vandy Hamidi wrote:
Cost to register with RADB is $250/year and I want to understand it before I shell out.
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james
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Peter E. Fry
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Richard A Steenbergen
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Vandy Hamidi