A helpful hint from a local broadband provider (I'm trying to wade through broadband options at home): "If your business is online, then you should have an IP address." I do find that helps. (in fairness, they are talking about static IPs, but it kind of fits with the rest of their marketing which says their highest speed plans include the advantage of "most reliable Wifi" when compared to their lower speed plans)
On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 11:01 AM, Joel Maslak <jmaslak@antelope.net> wrote:
A helpful hint from a local broadband provider (I'm trying to wade through broadband options at home):
"If your business is online, then you should have an IP address."
I do find that helps.
(in fairness, they are talking about static IPs, but it kind of fits with the rest of their marketing which says their highest speed plans include the advantage of "most reliable Wifi" when compared to their lower speed plans)
Key question though: "How many ipads do you have in your business?" (so we can plan the right bandwidth plan for you)
Hey, Hey Hey, Let's not propagate this more. NANOG is the wrong place for this - it's not technical or problem solving in nature nor is it community based concerns about industry resources and legislation. It's sale-ish. Thank You Bob Evans CTO
A helpful hint from a local broadband provider (I'm trying to wade through broadband options at home):
"If your business is online, then you should have an IP address."
I do find that helps.
(in fairness, they are talking about static IPs, but it kind of fits with the rest of their marketing which says their highest speed plans include the advantage of "most reliable Wifi" when compared to their lower speed plans)
If not to solve problems or as a technical resource, what is the NANOG for? Thank you, - Nich
Hey, Hey Hey, Let's not propagate this more. NANOG is the wrong place for this - it's not technical or problem solving in nature nor is it community based concerns about industry resources and legislation. It's sale-ish. Thank You Bob Evans CTO
Here's your answer....It's in the charter - join a sales forum someplace....here networking means technical network issues....not marketing networking that you find in so many places on the net.. NANOG serves as a bridge between the technical staff of leading Internet providers close to network operations, technical communities such as standards bodies, and the academic community. NANOG has consistently worked to maintain a high level of technical content in meetings and all related activities. In striving to achieve these goals, all tutorials and presentations, including BOF presentations, are reviewed in advance and are limited to those entirely of a general technical nature, explicitly prohibiting material that relates to any specific product or service offerings. For similar reasons, equipment exhibits are limited to specified special events at each meeting. - See more at: http://nanog.org/history/charter#sthash.HggO2RL6.dpuf Thank You Bob Evans CTO
If not to solve problems or as a technical resource, what is the NANOG for?
Thank you, - Nich
Hey, Hey Hey, Let's not propagate this more. NANOG is the wrong place for this - it's not technical or problem solving in nature nor is it community based concerns about industry resources and legislation. It's sale-ish. Thank You Bob Evans CTO
On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 1:19 PM, Bob Evans <bob@fiberinternetcenter.com> wrote:
Here's your answer....It's in the charter - join a sales forum someplace....here networking means technical network issues....not marketing networking that you find in so many places on the net..
NANOG serves as a bridge between the technical staff of leading Internet providers close to network operations, technical communities such as standards bodies, and the academic community. NANOG has consistently worked to maintain a high level of technical content in meetings and all related activities. In striving to achieve these goals, all tutorials and presentations, including BOF presentations, are reviewed in advance and are limited to those entirely of a general technical nature, explicitly prohibiting material that relates to any specific product or service offerings. For similar reasons, equipment exhibits are limited to specified special events at each meeting. - See more at: http://nanog.org/history/charter#sthash.HggO2RL6.dpuf
Chill out Bob. The charter contains many guidelines, few rules. "Minimize snark" is not one of the list rules. Or even one of the guidelines. -Bill -- William Herrin ................ herrin@dirtside.com bill@herrin.us Owner, Dirtside Systems ......... Web: <http://www.dirtside.com/>
Bill, It's my list too. 1) You are wrong for telling me what to do ? 2) Are we suppose to check with you to see how far the list can degrade ? You want to tell me to chill - do it offline like a reasonable participant. You should apologize. Thank You Bob Evans CTO
On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 1:19 PM, Bob Evans <bob@fiberinternetcenter.com> wrote:
Here's your answer....It's in the charter - join a sales forum someplace....here networking means technical network issues....not marketing networking that you find in so many places on the net..
NANOG serves as a bridge between the technical staff of leading Internet providers close to network operations, technical communities such as standards bodies, and the academic community. NANOG has consistently worked to maintain a high level of technical content in meetings and all related activities. In striving to achieve these goals, all tutorials and presentations, including BOF presentations, are reviewed in advance and are limited to those entirely of a general technical nature, explicitly prohibiting material that relates to any specific product or service offerings. For similar reasons, equipment exhibits are limited to specified special events at each meeting. - See more at: http://nanog.org/history/charter#sthash.HggO2RL6.dpuf
Chill out Bob. The charter contains many guidelines, few rules. "Minimize snark" is not one of the list rules. Or even one of the guidelines.
-Bill
-- William Herrin ................ herrin@dirtside.com bill@herrin.us Owner, Dirtside Systems ......... Web: <http://www.dirtside.com/>
Aye. It was an amusing anecdote/joke about their poor wording/pitch. I didn't see it as some sales thing....guess others are having a stressful day or got out of bed the wrong side today :/ alan
On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 11:01 AM, Joel Maslak <jmaslak@antelope.net> wrote:
"If your business is online, then you should have an IP address."
I do find that helps.
This reminds me of the marketing strategy back when I worked for a dialup ISP. We originally sold a 240 hour dynamic dialup account and a 24/7 dialup account. Once we got a couple of good salesman, they pointed out a problem to us: all our competitors claimed they were selling "unlimited" dialup. Our 240 hour plan wasn't competitive with "unlimited" dialup even though few users consumed more than 100 hours. The owner agreed that the basic dialup was not unlimited. He also agreed that we had to be competitive with other ISP's unlimited dialup plans. But, rarely among owners, he agreed that it would not be honest to call a capped dialup plan unlimited. The solution: "unlimited attended dialup." How would we have any idea whether the customer was sitting in front of his computer? In general, we wouldn't. But if he was online 72 hours straight, we had a pretty solid assumption that he wasn't there the whole time. The salesmen had their word "unlimited" without lying or abandoning the usage cap. -Bill -- William Herrin ................ herrin@dirtside.com bill@herrin.us Owner, Dirtside Systems ......... Web: <http://www.dirtside.com/>
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