OK, Google. Time to dial back the AI hype.
Google has always played fast and loose with its AI claims, but today t has gone too far. In a WSJ story, Google is misleading people into thinking it has achieved emotion, if not outright consciousness, in its AI programming: http://slashdot.org/submission/4569873/wsj-jumps-the-shark-with-ai-gets-test... Google claims one of its computer programs using a database of movie scripts to answer questions supposedly "lashed out" at a human researcher who was repeatedly asking it to explain morality. Don't computer scientists have a responsibility to deal forthrightly with the public on the real state of research in such fields as AI? When an Internet provider like Google makes such outlandish claims, one has to wonder what the real agenda is. -mel beckman
On Sun, Jun 28, 2015 at 9:17 AM, Mel Beckman <mel@beckman.org> wrote:
Don't computer scientists have a responsibility to deal forthrightly with the public on the real state of research in such fields as AI? When an Internet provider like Google makes such outlandish claims, one has to wonder what the real agenda is.
don't list users have a responsibility to attempt to stay on topic?
Because Google is an ISP, it seems to me a legitimate discussion point. Given Google's penchant for crafty customer surveillance, this technology seems like one that Google might try to leverage into a snoopy product. . -mel via cell
On Jun 28, 2015, at 10:59 PM, Christopher Morrow <morrowc.lists@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sun, Jun 28, 2015 at 9:17 AM, Mel Beckman <mel@beckman.org> wrote: Don't computer scientists have a responsibility to deal forthrightly with the public on the real state of research in such fields as AI? When an Internet provider like Google makes such outlandish claims, one has to wonder what the real agenda is.
don't list users have a responsibility to attempt to stay on topic?
has nothing to do with network operations. stick to reddit or slashdot. On Sun, Jun 28, 2015, 20:57 Mel Beckman <mel@beckman.org> wrote:
Because Google is an ISP, it seems to me a legitimate discussion point. Given Google's penchant for crafty customer surveillance, this technology seems like one that Google might try to leverage into a snoopy product. .
-mel via cell
On Jun 28, 2015, at 10:59 PM, Christopher Morrow < morrowc.lists@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sun, Jun 28, 2015 at 9:17 AM, Mel Beckman <mel@beckman.org> wrote: Don't computer scientists have a responsibility to deal forthrightly with the public on the real state of research in such fields as AI? When an Internet provider like Google makes such outlandish claims, one has to wonder what the real agenda is.
don't list users have a responsibility to attempt to stay on topic?
Because Google is an ISP, it seems to me a legitimate discussion point. Given Google's penchant for crafty customer surveillance, this technology seems like one that Google might try to leverage into a snoopy product. .
if we wasted this list discussing things which *might* be leveraged into a snoopy product we would be overwhelmed and the folk who actually manage networks would go elsewhere. try some other list, please. we're just trying to move packets. randy
On Sun, 28 Jun 2015, Mel Beckman wrote:
Google has always played fast and loose with its AI claims, but today t has gone too far. In a WSJ story, Google is misleading people into thinking it has achieved emotion, if not outright consciousness, in its AI programming:
http://slashdot.org/submission/4569873/wsj-jumps-the-shark-with-ai-gets-test...
Google claims one of its computer programs using a database of movie scripts to answer questions supposedly "lashed out" at a human researcher who was repeatedly asking it to explain morality.
Is the WSJ a wholly owned subsidiary of GOOG? It looks to me like a WSJ journalist said that.
Don't computer scientists have a responsibility to deal forthrightly with the public on the real state of research in such fields as AI? When an Internet provider like Google makes such outlandish claims, one has to wonder what the real agenda is.
I think you're confusing computer scientist integrity with journalism and a desire to attract readers. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Jon Lewis, MCP :) | I route | therefore you are _________ http://www.lewis.org/~jlewis/pgp for PGP public key_________
Is the WSJ a wholly owned subsidiary of GOOG? It looks to me like a WSJ journalist said that.
If you read the paper, which is linked from the article and takes about five minutes, you'll find that article is cheap clickbait and has approximately nothing to do with the topic of the paper. As far as I can tell, none of the people in the lengthy slashdot thread bothered to do that. ObNANOG: it's about a text chat app that can be loaded with various text databases. The first couple of examples use a tech support database and the examples are impressively close to the kind of tech support one gets from offshore script readers. The example quoted in the WSJ used a database of movie subtitles, so it's not surprising that it reads like a bad movie script. R's, John
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