RE: Utah governor signs Net-porn bill
...this bill... requires the attorney general to establish and maintain a database, called the adult content registry, of certain Internet sites containing material harmful to minors... ...$100,000 from the General Fund to the attorney general, for fiscal year 2005-06 only, to establish the adult content registry... They are going to create publicly accessible, highly available database service of the all the world's porn sites and maintain it with up to the minute data... with 100K. Right. Seems like a more rational answer to Utah's pr0n phobia is for a certain religious entity to publish their own net-nanny software/service for their parishioners. -----Original Message----- From: owner-nanog@merit.edu [mailto:owner-nanog@merit.edu]On Behalf Of Rachael Treu Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2005 11:35 AM To: Bill Woodcock Cc: Richard Irving; Roy; Fergie (Paul Ferguson); nanog@merit.edu Subject: Re: Utah governor signs Net-porn bill On Tue, Mar 22, 2005 at 09:33:44AM -0800, Bill Woodcock said something to the effect of:
> > It's also voluntary on the part of the service provider. > What !?! Surely you Jest!
Uh, yes, I was joking. Unfortunately, I do believe, on credible evidence, that there are people stupid enough to be trying to legislate the operation of the Internet without having first understood how it's done right now. Case in point.
-Bill
What do you mean?! I'm writing an email right now to my service provider, demanding that I get *only* porn. I want all pr0n, all the time. No need to wast bandwidth on this smtp garbage, or any other http-type hooey, for that matter. I want my OPoIP (only porn over IP)! I want it secured, even! Encrypted porn with an SLA I can wave SLA about if anything else slips through like pesky news or children's pages or something icky. Are you telling me my provider reserves the right to refuse me this service? <sniff> --ra ;) -- k. rachael treu, CISSP rara@navigo.com ..quis custodiet ipsos custodes?.. (this email has been brought to you by the letters 'v' and 'i'.)
----- Original Message ----- From: "Kathryn Kessey" <kkessey@alterpoint.com> To: <nanog@merit.edu> Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2005 1:29 PM Subject: RE: Utah governor signs Net-porn bill
They are going to create publicly accessible, highly available database service of the all the world's > porn sites and maintain it with up to the minute data... with 100K. Right.
if they made it publically accessible, added user ratings and thumbnails for entries and stuck a few affiliate banners for some of the popular sites up top, i'd bet they'd be *making* money. oh wait, someone's already done that.. -p --- paul galynin
On Tue, Mar 22, 2005 at 01:32:10PM -0500, Paul G said something to the effect of:
----- Original Message ----- From: "Kathryn Kessey" <kkessey@alterpoint.com> To: <nanog@merit.edu> Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2005 1:29 PM Subject: RE: Utah governor signs Net-porn bill
They are going to create publicly accessible, highly available database service of the all the world's > porn sites and maintain it with up to the minute data... with 100K. Right.
if they made it publically accessible, added user ratings and thumbnails for entries and stuck a few affiliate banners for some of the popular sites up top, i'd bet they'd be *making* money. oh wait, someone's already done that..
Woohoo! A new pr0n-meta-index! A $$-maker, indeed. pr0n.gov.... --ra
-p
--- paul galynin
One thing to note, from the news.com story on this: "Spokesman Tammy Kikuchi said Monday that Huntsman 'doesn't have a concern about the constitutional challenge.'" This could be interpreted as "We know this is going to be shot down, and the governor doesn't really care, as long as we appeared to be 'doing something' about internet porn"... -C On Mar 22, 2005, at 1:32 PM, Paul G wrote:
----- Original Message ----- From: "Kathryn Kessey" <kkessey@alterpoint.com> To: <nanog@merit.edu> Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2005 1:29 PM Subject: RE: Utah governor signs Net-porn bill
They are going to create publicly accessible, highly available database service of the all the world's > porn sites and maintain it with up to the minute data... with 100K. Right.
if they made it publically accessible, added user ratings and thumbnails for entries and stuck a few affiliate banners for some of the popular sites up top, i'd bet they'd be *making* money. oh wait, someone's already done that..
-p
--- paul galynin
On Tue, 22 Mar 2005 12:29:09 -0600, Kathryn Kessey <kkessey@alterpoint.com> wrote:
Seems like a more rational answer to Utah's pr0n phobia is for a certain religious entity to publish their own net-nanny software/service for their parishioners.
Call the filtering program "SCOwl"... -- GDB has a 'break' feature; why doesn't it have 'fix' too?
On Tue, Mar 22, 2005 at 12:29:09PM -0600, Kathryn Kessey wrote:
They are going to create publicly accessible, highly available database service of the all the world's porn sites and maintain it with up to the minute data... with 100K. Right.
Well maybe they're just trying to justify their... uh... research. w
On Tue, Mar 22, 2005 at 11:04:59AM -0800, Will Yardley wrote:
On Tue, Mar 22, 2005 at 12:29:09PM -0600, Kathryn Kessey wrote:
They are going to create publicly accessible, highly available database service of the all the world's porn sites and maintain it with up to the minute data... with 100K. Right.
Well maybe they're just trying to justify their... uh... research.
"Movie Day" at the Supreme Court: http://library.lp.findlaw.com/articles/file/00982/008860/title/Subject/topic... Cheers, -- jr 'sorry bout the ugly link' a -- Jay R. Ashworth jra@baylink.com Designer Baylink RFC 2100 Ashworth & Associates The Things I Think '87 e24 St Petersburg FL USA http://baylink.pitas.com +1 727 647 1274 If you can read this... thank a system adminstrator. Or two. --me
On Tue, 22 Mar 2005 12:29:09 CST, Kathryn Kessey said:
Seems like a more rational answer to Utah's pr0n phobia is for a certain religious entity to publish their own net-nanny software/service for their parishioners.
You've got "rational", "religious", and an implied "politics" all in the same sentence. Other than that, it would be a better idea, yes...
On Tue, 22 Mar 2005, Kathryn Kessey wrote:
...this bill... requires the attorney general to establish and maintain a database, called the adult content registry, of certain Internet sites containing material harmful to minors... ...$100,000 from the General Fund to the attorney general, for fiscal year 2005-06 only, to establish the adult content registry... They are going to create publicly accessible, highly available database service of the all the world's porn sites and maintain it with up to the minute data... with 100K. Right. Seems like a more rational answer to Utah's pr0n phobia is for a certain religious entity to publish their own net-nanny software/service for their parishioners.
somehow I suspect more than just pr0n sites will end up in that 'adult content registry'. dont be suprised if sites critical of mormonism get blocked too. they can be as bad as scientologists in this respect. -Dan
On Tuesday 22 Mar 2005 7:37 pm, Dan Hollis wrote:
somehow I suspect more than just pr0n sites will end up in that 'adult content registry'. dont be suprised if sites critical of mormonism get blocked too. they can be as bad as scientologists in this respect.
Cynic. Porn alone will do enough damage. I use to resell one of the firewall with a blocker option, and one site decided to actually buy it. When we enabled blocking of Adult content dejanews (as it was then) disappeared, which caused some consternation - what no comp.sys.* archive. After some questioning, it became apparent it was because it also archived alt.sex.* - urm right.
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