Opinion pieces in Wired and AG's grandstanding by throwing babies out with bathwater notwithstanding, a query from a cow-orker caused me to wonder: is there still anyplace to get a Usenet feed from these days that isn't {Giga,Super,etc}News? I want to pull maybe 30 or 40 tech groups into my own server for the 5 or 6 people in my IT group. In lieu of How It Used To Be, does anyone have data or anecdotes on which of the commercial providers will let me run a server in-house? Off-list is fine; I can summarize if anyone really cares anymore. :-) Cheers, -- jra -- Jay R. Ashworth Baylink jra@baylink.com Designer The Things I Think RFC 2100 Ashworth & Associates http://baylink.pitas.com '87 e24 St Petersburg FL USA http://photo.imageinc.us +1 727 647 1274 Those who cast the vote decide nothing. Those who count the vote decide everything. -- (Josef Stalin)
Avi Freedman runs a decent service. Gadi. On Mon, 4 Aug 2008, Jay R. Ashworth wrote:
Opinion pieces in Wired and AG's grandstanding by throwing babies out with bathwater notwithstanding, a query from a cow-orker caused me to wonder: is there still anyplace to get a Usenet feed from these days that isn't {Giga,Super,etc}News? I want to pull maybe 30 or 40 tech groups into my own server for the 5 or 6 people in my IT group.
In lieu of How It Used To Be, does anyone have data or anecdotes on which of the commercial providers will let me run a server in-house?
Off-list is fine; I can summarize if anyone really cares anymore. :-)
Cheers, -- jra -- Jay R. Ashworth Baylink jra@baylink.com Designer The Things I Think RFC 2100 Ashworth & Associates http://baylink.pitas.com '87 e24 St Petersburg FL USA http://photo.imageinc.us +1 727 647 1274
Those who cast the vote decide nothing. Those who count the vote decide everything. -- (Josef Stalin)
* Jay R. Ashworth:
Opinion pieces in Wired and AG's grandstanding by throwing babies out with bathwater notwithstanding, a query from a cow-orker caused me to wonder: is there still anyplace to get a Usenet feed from these days that isn't {Giga,Super,etc}News? I want to pull maybe 30 or 40 tech groups into my own server for the 5 or 6 people in my IT group.
You should be able to get the Big 8 (without any binary junk) fairly easily. Finding someone who manages your subscriptions using GUP (or even manually *gasp*) could be more difficult, though, so receiving a subset is likely not an option. (I haven't got a Big 8 feed to offer, I'm sorry. The regional ISP I use offers an NNTP feed managed by GUP.)
On Mon, Aug 04, 2008 at 10:19:16PM +0200, Florian Weimer wrote:
* Jay R. Ashworth:
Opinion pieces in Wired and AG's grandstanding by throwing babies out with bathwater notwithstanding, a query from a cow-orker caused me to wonder: is there still anyplace to get a Usenet feed from these days that isn't {Giga,Super,etc}News? I want to pull maybe 30 or 40 tech groups into my own server for the 5 or 6 people in my IT group.
You should be able to get the Big 8 (without any binary junk) fairly easily. Finding someone who manages your subscriptions using GUP (or even manually *gasp*) could be more difficult, though, so receiving a subset is likely not an option.
Some offlist chatter suggests it might not be that difficult; I'm investigating more deeply and will report what I can. :-) How much *is* Big8 a day these days, though, a gig? I have a 10MBs hose... Cheers, -- jra -- Jay R. Ashworth Baylink jra@baylink.com Designer The Things I Think RFC 2100 Ashworth & Associates http://baylink.pitas.com '87 e24 St Petersburg FL USA http://photo.imageinc.us +1 727 647 1274 Those who cast the vote decide nothing. Those who count the vote decide everything. -- (Josef Stalin)
"Jay R. Ashworth" <jra@baylink.com> writes:
How much *is* Big8 a day these days, though, a gig? I have a 10MBs hose...
If trends have continued since last I looked at it, very manageable after you take out the binaries. Insignificant if you could figure out a way to get rid of the flames and spam. :) -r
RES> Date: Tue, 05 Aug 2008 09:19:44 -0400 RES> From: Robert E. Seastrom RES> If trends have continued since last I looked at it, very manageable RES> after you take out the binaries. Insignificant if you could figure RES> out a way to get rid of the flames and spam. :) Usenet - binaries - flames - spam = pretty close to "actually dead" ;-) Eddy -- Everquick Internet - http://www.everquick.net/ A division of Brotsman & Dreger, Inc. - http://www.brotsman.com/ Bandwidth, consulting, e-commerce, hosting, and network building Phone: +1 785 865 5885 Lawrence and [inter]national Phone: +1 316 794 8922 Wichita ________________________________________________________________________ DO NOT send mail to the following addresses: davidc@brics.com -*- jfconmaapaq@intc.net -*- sam@everquick.net Sending mail to spambait addresses is a great way to get blocked. Ditto for broken OOO autoresponders and foolish AV software backscatter.
-----Original Message----- From: Edward B. DREGER [mailto:eddy+public+spam@noc.everquick.net] Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2008 2:48 PM To: Robert E. Seastrom Cc: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: Is Usenet actually dead?
RES> Date: Tue, 05 Aug 2008 09:19:44 -0400 RES> From: Robert E. Seastrom
RES> If trends have continued since last I looked at it, very manageable RES> after you take out the binaries. Insignificant if you could
We operate a transit box, and there are still quite a few of them out there. Pushing hundreds and hundreds of megs. http://news.anthologeek.net/ figure
RES> out a way to get rid of the flames and spam. :)
Usenet - binaries - flames - spam = pretty close to "actually dead"
;-)
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participants (6)
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Alex Rubenstein
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Edward B. DREGER
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Florian Weimer
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Gadi Evron
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Jay R. Ashworth
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Robert E. Seastrom