Peer1/Server Beach support for BGP on dedicated servers
Hello everyone Was wondering if there's anyone from Server Beach/Peer1 here. We have a dedicated server with them which we primarily use for DNS. I am adding support for anycasting on that one but seems like Peer1 is not supporting BGP at all. NOC support told me that they can announce our block and statically pass us but cannot hear BGP announcement from our router. Was wondering if someone else had similar issue? This is important and if doesn't works then I would have to find a new place for dedicated server somewhere in California. Thanks! -- Anurag Bhatia anuragbhatia.com or simply - http://[2001:470:26:78f::5] if you are on IPv6 connected network! Linkedin <http://in.linkedin.com/in/anuragbhatia21> | Twitter<https://twitter.com/anurag_bhatia>| Google+ <https://plus.google.com/118280168625121532854>
On Sat, May 19, 2012 at 3:23 AM, Anurag Bhatia <me@anuragbhatia.com> wrote:
Was wondering if there's anyone from Server Beach/Peer1 here. We have a dedicated server with them which we primarily use for DNS. I am adding support for anycasting on that one but seems like Peer1 is not supporting BGP at all. NOC support told me that they can announce our block and statically pass us but cannot hear BGP announcement from our router. Was wondering if someone else had similar issue?
Generally, most dedicated hosting (renting/leasing the exclusive use of a computer in their facility) outfits aren't setup to speak BGP to individual servers/customers. Such a request is usually infrequent enough that it doesn't warrant setting up the added hardware. While you could have your provider announce your space for you, you'll loose the fine-grained control over how that route gets announced once the routing is out of your hands.
This is important and if doesn't works then I would have to find a new place for dedicated server somewhere in California.
I would instead recommend looking for a colocation provider that will host small installations (1 - 5 U), but is also savvy enough to speak eBGP with their customers. Cheers, jof
On Sat, May 19, 2012 at 3:23 AM, Anurag Bhatia <me@anuragbhatia.com> wrote:
Was wondering if there's anyone from Server Beach/Peer1 here. We have a dedicated server with them which we primarily use for DNS. I am adding support for anycasting on that one but seems like Peer1 is not supporting BGP at all. NOC support told me that they can announce our block and statically pass us but cannot hear BGP announcement from our router. Was wondering if someone else had similar issue?
Generally, most dedicated hosting (renting/leasing the exclusive use of a computer in their facility) outfits aren't setup to speak BGP to individual servers/customers. Such a request is usually infrequent enough that it doesn't warrant setting up the added hardware.
While you could have your provider announce your space for you, you'll loose the fine-grained control over how that route gets announced once the routing is out of your hands.
This is important and if doesn't works then I would have to find a new place for dedicated server somewhere in California.
I would instead recommend looking for a colocation provider that will host small installations (1 - 5 U), but is also savvy enough to speak eBGP with their customers.
Cheers, jof
Hi, Knowing Peer1, they *may be* accommodating enough to provide you with something. Are you talking only to server beach support? PS: Yes, your need are a bit different from their usual customers =D ( I wont make a shameless plug ... )
On 5/19/12 3:48 AM, Jonathan Lassoff wrote:
On Sat, May 19, 2012 at 3:23 AM, Anurag Bhatia <me@anuragbhatia.com> wrote:
Was wondering if there's anyone from Server Beach/Peer1 here. We have a dedicated server with them which we primarily use for DNS. I am adding support for anycasting on that one but seems like Peer1 is not supporting BGP at all. NOC support told me that they can announce our block and statically pass us but cannot hear BGP announcement from our router. Was wondering if someone else had similar issue?
Generally, most dedicated hosting (renting/leasing the exclusive use of a computer in their facility) outfits aren't setup to speak BGP to individual servers/customers. Such a request is usually infrequent enough that it doesn't warrant setting up the added hardware.
There are places that can do such requests easily and quickly, but they're typically smaller outfits that don't have thousands of customers doing cookie-cutter packages. ~Seth
Any recommendations of such? -Bill On May 19, 2012, at 9:20, "Seth Mattinen" <sethm@rollernet.us> wrote:
On 5/19/12 3:48 AM, Jonathan Lassoff wrote:
On Sat, May 19, 2012 at 3:23 AM, Anurag Bhatia <me@anuragbhatia.com> wrote:
Was wondering if there's anyone from Server Beach/Peer1 here. We have a dedicated server with them which we primarily use for DNS. I am adding support for anycasting on that one but seems like Peer1 is not supporting BGP at all. NOC support told me that they can announce our block and statically pass us but cannot hear BGP announcement from our router. Was wondering if someone else had similar issue?
Generally, most dedicated hosting (renting/leasing the exclusive use of a computer in their facility) outfits aren't setup to speak BGP to individual servers/customers. Such a request is usually infrequent enough that it doesn't warrant setting up the added hardware.
There are places that can do such requests easily and quickly, but they're typically smaller outfits that don't have thousands of customers doing cookie-cutter packages.
~Seth
http://www.voxel.net offers web-orderable servers and VMs, with BGP support (IPv4 and IPv6) available as a paid add-on in all service locations. I'm honestly surprised we don't see this supported by more folk in the space. The configuration is relatively trivial to automate, with IRR data generating prefix-list updates, and the customer use cases are compelling. HTH, -a (disclaimer: biased recommendation) On Sat, May 19, 2012 at 2:19 PM, Bill Woodcock <woody@pch.net> wrote:
Any recommendations of such?
-Bill
On May 19, 2012, at 9:20, "Seth Mattinen" <sethm@rollernet.us> wrote:
On 5/19/12 3:48 AM, Jonathan Lassoff wrote:
On Sat, May 19, 2012 at 3:23 AM, Anurag Bhatia <me@anuragbhatia.com> wrote:
Was wondering if there's anyone from Server Beach/Peer1 here. We have a dedicated server with them which we primarily use for DNS. I am adding support for anycasting on that one but seems like Peer1 is not supporting BGP at all. NOC support told me that they can announce our block and statically pass us but cannot hear BGP announcement from our router. Was wondering if someone else had similar issue?
Generally, most dedicated hosting (renting/leasing the exclusive use of a computer in their facility) outfits aren't setup to speak BGP to individual servers/customers. Such a request is usually infrequent enough that it doesn't warrant setting up the added hardware.
There are places that can do such requests easily and quickly, but they're typically smaller outfits that don't have thousands of customers doing cookie-cutter packages.
~Seth
On 2012-05-19 22:24, Adam Rothschild wrote:
http://www.voxel.net offers web-orderable servers and VMs, with BGP support (IPv4 and IPv6) available as a paid add-on in all service locations.
Is this publicly advertised or do you have to ask for it? I can't find anything about BGP on their web site... Simon -- DTN made easy, lean, and smart --> http://postellation.viagenie.ca NAT64/DNS64 open-source --> http://ecdysis.viagenie.ca STUN/TURN server --> http://numb.viagenie.ca
http://www.voxel.net/assets/VoxCAST-Whitepaper.pdf J.J. -----Original Message----- From: Simon Perreault [mailto:simon.perreault@viagenie.ca] Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2012 11:22 AM To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: Peer1/Server Beach support for BGP on dedicated servers On 2012-05-19 22:24, Adam Rothschild wrote:
http://www.voxel.net offers web-orderable servers and VMs, with BGP support (IPv4 and IPv6) available as a paid add-on in all service locations.
Is this publicly advertised or do you have to ask for it? I can't find anything about BGP on their web site... Simon -- DTN made easy, lean, and smart --> http://postellation.viagenie.ca NAT64/DNS64 open-source --> http://ecdysis.viagenie.ca STUN/TURN server --> http://numb.viagenie.ca
On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 3:02 PM, J.J. Mc Kenna <JMcKenna@intelletrace.com> wrote:
that does mention bgp, but not in the context of 'make my server do bgp with the voxel network equipment'... in the context of: "If you setup a cdn you need to speak bgp". I don't see a clicky-box on the voxel server (dedicated hosting) configuration and pricing page for 'add the bgp to my server, pls.'. -chris
-----Original Message----- From: Simon Perreault [mailto:simon.perreault@viagenie.ca] Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2012 11:22 AM To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: Peer1/Server Beach support for BGP on dedicated servers
On 2012-05-19 22:24, Adam Rothschild wrote:
http://www.voxel.net offers web-orderable servers and VMs, with BGP support (IPv4 and IPv6) available as a paid add-on in all service locations.
Is this publicly advertised or do you have to ask for it? I can't find anything about BGP on their web site...
Simon -- DTN made easy, lean, and smart --> http://postellation.viagenie.ca NAT64/DNS64 open-source --> http://ecdysis.viagenie.ca STUN/TURN server --> http://numb.viagenie.ca
On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 3:08 PM, Christopher Morrow <morrowc.lists@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 3:02 PM, J.J. Mc Kenna <JMcKenna@intelletrace.com> wrote:
that does mention bgp, but not in the context of 'make my server do bgp with the voxel network equipment'... in the context of: "If you setup a cdn you need to speak bgp".
I don't see a clicky-box on the voxel server (dedicated hosting) configuration and pricing page for 'add the bgp to my server, pls.'.
offlist a respondent states that emails to sales@ would get this moving in the right direction... that seems promising. thanks off-list respondent! -chris
On 2012-05-22 15:02, J.J. Mc Kenna wrote:
This is not what I would call "BGP support". It's just a CDN. Thanks, Simon
-----Original Message----- From: Simon Perreault [mailto:simon.perreault@viagenie.ca] Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2012 11:22 AM To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: Peer1/Server Beach support for BGP on dedicated servers
On 2012-05-19 22:24, Adam Rothschild wrote:
http://www.voxel.net offers web-orderable servers and VMs, with BGP support (IPv4 and IPv6) available as a paid add-on in all service locations.
Is this publicly advertised or do you have to ask for it? I can't find anything about BGP on their web site...
-- DTN made easy, lean, and smart --> http://postellation.viagenie.ca NAT64/DNS64 open-source --> http://ecdysis.viagenie.ca STUN/TURN server --> http://numb.viagenie.ca
Peer1/SB employee here - (disclaimer: I'm really in security, not networking) I imagine this would be technically possible, but I have no clue as to whether it is something we could offer or not. If you like, feel free to contact me off-list and I'll forward your questions/requirements along to those who can provide a better answer. - Sean Sent from a portable typo transmitter On May 19, 2012, at 5:23, Anurag Bhatia <me@anuragbhatia.com> wrote:
Hello everyone
Was wondering if there's anyone from Server Beach/Peer1 here. We have a dedicated server with them which we primarily use for DNS. I am adding support for anycasting on that one but seems like Peer1 is not supporting BGP at all. NOC support told me that they can announce our block and statically pass us but cannot hear BGP announcement from our router. Was wondering if someone else had similar issue?
This is important and if doesn't works then I would have to find a new place for dedicated server somewhere in California.
Thanks!
--
Anurag Bhatia anuragbhatia.com or simply - http://[2001:470:26:78f::5] if you are on IPv6 connected network!
Linkedin <http://in.linkedin.com/in/anuragbhatia21> | Twitter<https://twitter.com/anurag_bhatia>| Google+ <https://plus.google.com/118280168625121532854>
participants (11)
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Adam Rothschild
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Alain Hebert
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Anurag Bhatia
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Bill Woodcock
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Chris Marlatt
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Christopher Morrow
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J.J. Mc Kenna
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Jonathan Lassoff
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Sean Davis
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Seth Mattinen
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Simon Perreault