Hello, I'm a techie that recently moved to South Jersey for a tech job. To my astonishment, I discovered that there appears to be a Verizon datacenter near my house that has colocation: http://imgur.com/a/PdGno It's in Somers Point, NJ. While I could not find an address on the building, it is on the corner of Bethel Rd and N New Rd. I've tried walking around back to see if I could talk to anyone about colocation but could not find anyone outside. I've also tried calling Verizon but support wasn't very helpful. My question is, what does it take to get some colocation space inside of that building? Me and my roommate both have a 1u we'd like to rack and having it racked in a datacenter walking distance from where we live would be awesome. What we'd need: 2u space 4 power drops for the servers (2 psu per server) 2 100Mbps ethernet drops with static IPs I'm not sure if that's too little to ask for colocation or not, but that really is all we'd need. Is there anyone about that knows what we'd need to acquire such space, cost, badging, etc? If so, can you please reply offlist? Thanks, John M
On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 2:46 PM, John Musbach <johnmusbach1@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello,
I'm a techie that recently moved to South Jersey for a tech job. To my astonishment, I discovered that there appears to be a Verizon datacenter near my house that has colocation:
how / why did you think this has colocation?
It's in Somers Point, NJ. While I could not find an address on the building, it is on the corner of Bethel Rd and N New Rd. I've tried walking around back to see if I could talk to anyone about colocation but could not find anyone outside. I've also tried calling Verizon but support wasn't very helpful. My question is, what does it take to get some colocation space inside of that building? Me and my roommate both have a 1u we'd like to rack and having it racked in a datacenter walking distance from where we live would be awesome. What we'd need:
2u space 4 power drops for the servers (2 psu per server) 2 100Mbps ethernet drops with static IPs
I'm not sure if that's too little to ask for colocation or not, but that really is all we'd need. Is there anyone about that knows what we'd need to acquire such space, cost, badging, etc? If so, can you please reply offlist?
Thanks,
John M
On Thu, Jun 25, 2015 at 5:32 PM, Christopher Morrow <morrowc.lists@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 2:46 PM, John Musbach <johnmusbach1@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello,
I'm a techie that recently moved to South Jersey for a tech job. To my astonishment, I discovered that there appears to be a Verizon datacenter near my house that has colocation:
how / why did you think this has colocation?
https://www22.verizon.com/wholesale/attachments/space-exhaust/Web_UpdateSout... if you search for somers point in there this looks like a Central office which might offer future physical (future from 2012) colocation, but I bet you'd have to be a CLEC to take advantage of this...
It's in Somers Point, NJ. While I could not find an address on the building, it is on the corner of Bethel Rd and N New Rd. I've tried walking around back to see if I could talk to anyone about colocation but could not find anyone outside. I've also tried calling Verizon but support wasn't very helpful. My question is, what does it take to get some colocation space inside of that building? Me and my roommate both have a 1u we'd like to rack and having it racked in a datacenter walking distance from where we live would be awesome. What we'd need:
2u space 4 power drops for the servers (2 psu per server) 2 100Mbps ethernet drops with static IPs
I'm not sure if that's too little to ask for colocation or not, but that really is all we'd need. Is there anyone about that knows what we'd need to acquire such space, cost, badging, etc? If so, can you please reply offlist?
Thanks,
John M
On Thu, Jun 25, 2015 at 5:37 PM, Christopher Morrow <morrowc.lists@gmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, Jun 25, 2015 at 5:32 PM, Christopher Morrow <morrowc.lists@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 2:46 PM, John Musbach <johnmusbach1@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello,
I'm a techie that recently moved to South Jersey for a tech job. To my astonishment, I discovered that there appears to be a Verizon datacenter near my house that has colocation:
how / why did you think this has colocation?
https://www22.verizon.com/wholesale/attachments/space-exhaust/Web_UpdateSout...
if you search for somers point in there this looks like a Central office which might offer future physical (future from 2012) colocation, but I bet you'd have to be a CLEC to take advantage of this...
Ohh ok. I suppose that colo entrance being for CLECs would make sense haha. Too much of a dream for a general population colocation datacenter to be near residential I guess. Was worth a try. -- John Musbach
On Fri, Jun 26, 2015 at 8:36 PM, John Musbach <johnmusbach1@gmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, Jun 25, 2015 at 5:37 PM, Christopher Morrow <morrowc.lists@gmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, Jun 25, 2015 at 5:32 PM, Christopher Morrow <morrowc.lists@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 2:46 PM, John Musbach <johnmusbach1@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello,
I'm a techie that recently moved to South Jersey for a tech job. To my astonishment, I discovered that there appears to be a Verizon datacenter near my house that has colocation:
how / why did you think this has colocation?
https://www22.verizon.com/wholesale/attachments/space-exhaust/Web_UpdateSout...
if you search for somers point in there this looks like a Central office which might offer future physical (future from 2012) colocation, but I bet you'd have to be a CLEC to take advantage of this...
Ohh ok. I suppose that colo entrance being for CLECs would make sense haha. Too much of a dream for a general population colocation datacenter to be near residential I guess. Was worth a try.
P.S. If there was any way to get a tour inside of there at least I'd totally sign a NDA for that. :) Never been inside, let alone near, a CO before. -- John Musbach
On Fri, Jun 26, 2015 at 5:40 PM, John Musbach <johnmusbach1@gmail.com> wrote:
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P.S. If there was any way to get a tour inside of there at least I'd totally sign a NDA for that. :) Never been inside, let alone near, a CO before.
http://museumofcommunications.org/?page_id=12 -- Joe Hamelin, W7COM, Tulalip, WA, 360-474-7474
On Thu, Jun 25, 2015 at 5:32 PM, Christopher Morrow <morrowc.lists@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 2:46 PM, John Musbach <johnmusbach1@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello,
I'm a techie that recently moved to South Jersey for a tech job. To my astonishment, I discovered that there appears to be a Verizon datacenter near my house that has colocation:
how / why did you think this has colocation?
Look at the second picture, the sign on the door more specifically. :) -- John Musbach
On Fri, Jun 26, 2015 at 8:32 PM, John Musbach <johnmusbach1@gmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, Jun 25, 2015 at 5:32 PM, Christopher Morrow <morrowc.lists@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 2:46 PM, John Musbach <johnmusbach1@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello,
I'm a techie that recently moved to South Jersey for a tech job. To my astonishment, I discovered that there appears to be a Verizon datacenter near my house that has colocation:
how / why did you think this has colocation?
Look at the second picture, the sign on the door more specifically. :)
oriiginal view of the door sign was not readable... had to do some work to see 'co locators entrance'. Bet this means 'clec entrance' (they probably forgot to include the hours of operation: 9-4, lunch 11-3)
I cant say much about other incumbents but i have been in alot of vz co's in nj/nyc and Its very rare to see any humans in a CO anymore even in ones in really dense metro areas On Jun 26, 2015 10:40 PM, "Christopher Morrow" <morrowc.lists@gmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, Jun 26, 2015 at 8:32 PM, John Musbach <johnmusbach1@gmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, Jun 25, 2015 at 5:32 PM, Christopher Morrow <morrowc.lists@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 2:46 PM, John Musbach <johnmusbach1@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello,
I'm a techie that recently moved to South Jersey for a tech job. To my astonishment, I discovered that there appears to be a Verizon datacenter near my house that has colocation:
how / why did you think this has colocation?
Look at the second picture, the sign on the door more specifically. :)
oriiginal view of the door sign was not readable... had to do some work to see 'co locators entrance'. Bet this means 'clec entrance' (they probably forgot to include the hours of operation: 9-4, lunch 11-3)
On Sun, 28 Jun 2015, chris wrote:
I cant say much about other incumbents but i have been in alot of vz co's in nj/nyc and Its very rare to see any humans in a CO anymore even in ones in really dense metro areas
The majority of ILEC COs I've seen are unstaffed these days, save for the rare occasion where something needs to be physically touched. CLECs are sometimes a different story because they might only have one physical CO in a given LATA. jms
On Jun 26, 2015 10:40 PM, "Christopher Morrow" <morrowc.lists@gmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, Jun 26, 2015 at 8:32 PM, John Musbach <johnmusbach1@gmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, Jun 25, 2015 at 5:32 PM, Christopher Morrow <morrowc.lists@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 2:46 PM, John Musbach <johnmusbach1@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello,
I'm a techie that recently moved to South Jersey for a tech job. To my astonishment, I discovered that there appears to be a Verizon datacenter near my house that has colocation:
how / why did you think this has colocation?
Look at the second picture, the sign on the door more specifically. :)
oriiginal view of the door sign was not readable... had to do some work to see 'co locators entrance'. Bet this means 'clec entrance' (they probably forgot to include the hours of operation: 9-4, lunch 11-3)
It looks more like a standard telco central office, not a data center. Lyle On 06/24/15 13:46, John Musbach wrote:
Hello,
I'm a techie that recently moved to South Jersey for a tech job. To my astonishment, I discovered that there appears to be a Verizon datacenter near my house that has colocation:
It's in Somers Point, NJ. While I could not find an address on the building, it is on the corner of Bethel Rd and N New Rd. I've tried walking around back to see if I could talk to anyone about colocation but could not find anyone outside. I've also tried calling Verizon but support wasn't very helpful. My question is, what does it take to get some colocation space inside of that building? Me and my roommate both have a 1u we'd like to rack and having it racked in a datacenter walking distance from where we live would be awesome. What we'd need:
2u space 4 power drops for the servers (2 psu per server) 2 100Mbps ethernet drops with static IPs
I'm not sure if that's too little to ask for colocation or not, but that really is all we'd need. Is there anyone about that knows what we'd need to acquire such space, cost, badging, etc? If so, can you please reply offlist?
Thanks,
John M
Be prepared to drop a lot of money for colocation with Verizon. Also, quoting process is rather long and you will have to sign a NDA most likely, which just makes it even more fun. For the size of your project I'd pick a provider that focuses on colocation for small and medium businesses and is easier to work with. On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 1:46 PM, John Musbach <johnmusbach1@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello,
I'm a techie that recently moved to South Jersey for a tech job. To my astonishment, I discovered that there appears to be a Verizon datacenter near my house that has colocation:
It's in Somers Point, NJ. While I could not find an address on the building, it is on the corner of Bethel Rd and N New Rd. I've tried walking around back to see if I could talk to anyone about colocation but could not find anyone outside. I've also tried calling Verizon but support wasn't very helpful. My question is, what does it take to get some colocation space inside of that building? Me and my roommate both have a 1u we'd like to rack and having it racked in a datacenter walking distance from where we live would be awesome. What we'd need:
2u space 4 power drops for the servers (2 psu per server) 2 100Mbps ethernet drops with static IPs
I'm not sure if that's too little to ask for colocation or not, but that really is all we'd need. Is there anyone about that knows what we'd need to acquire such space, cost, badging, etc? If so, can you please reply offlist?
Thanks,
John M
On Thu, Jun 25, 2015 at 05:04:09PM -0500, Rafael Possamai wrote:
On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 1:46 PM, John Musbach <johnmusbach1@gmail.com> wrote: I'm a techie that recently moved to South Jersey for a tech job. To my astonishment, I discovered that there appears to be a Verizon datacenter near my house that has colocation:
Be prepared to drop a lot of money for colocation with Verizon. Also, quoting process is rather long and you will have to sign a NDA most likely, which just makes it even more fun. For the size of your project I'd pick a provider that focuses on colocation for small and medium businesses and is easier to work with. ...
There was once a time we were going to colo in a VZ facility within the same building our primary datacenter was (to receive favorable rates on cross-connects, etc). There was signing of NDAs, it took the better part of half a year for build out. Then it was announced ready to move in, and we asked the procedure to get cross-connects from outside the facility in (really the whole point of even getting colo there). Oh no, you can't have a cross-connect. Umm, the only reason we're doing this is to cross-connect to the colo. The sales people knew this from the start, and was a key provision. But the site manager was adamant, nothing comes in or out. I guess VZ thought the colo was ultimately to stand alone without talking to anybody. And they are a communications company. Boggle.
On Fri Jun 26, 2015 at 09:26:53AM -0500, Doug McIntyre wrote:
I guess VZ thought the colo was ultimately to stand alone without talking to anybody. And they are a communications company.
And there-in lies the answer to your question. They're a communications company. They want to sell you communications services. They don't want you to buy communications services from other providers. If you want to provide your own communications circuits, don't buy datacentre space from a communications company. Simon
On Fri, Jun 26, 2015 at 10:26 AM, Doug McIntyre <merlyn@geeks.org> wrote:
Then it was announced ready to move in, and we asked the procedure to get cross-connects from outside the facility in (really the whole point of even getting colo there).
Oh no, you can't have a cross-connect.
Umm, the only reason we're doing this is to cross-connect to the colo. The sales people knew this from the start, and was a key provision. But the site manager was adamant, nothing comes in or out.
I'm told second hand that when MCI/worldcom (now Verizon Business) controlled 8100 Boone Blvd (the early MAE-East) you had to buy a data circuit from them to get between floors. Not a cable or a cross-connect. A data circuit at the 0-mile tariffed price. I know first hand that when I bought a Verizon Business data circuit at a carrier-neutral colo and asked them to move the IP addresses from my Verizon Business colo to the data circuit, they refused. It took me longer but I canceled the colo anyway. And the circuit too. Jerks. Regards, Bill Herrin -- William Herrin ................ herrin@dirtside.com bill@herrin.us Owner, Dirtside Systems ......... Web: <http://www.dirtside.com/>
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