Friday Fun: UK Government (Dept of Work & Pensions) selling off an entire "/8"
Perhaps I'm odd, but I find the novelty of this to be amusing: IPv4 Market Group Announces the Availability of a Significant Portfolio of
IPv4 Addresses for Purchase in the RIPE Region:
IPv4 Market Group, a global leader in IPv4 sales, has just announced the availability of up to 2.6 million top quality IPv4 addresses for purchase in the RIPE region. The firm’s Executive Vice President for Business Development, Jeff Mehlenbacher, said that the IPv4 blocks are being offered in multiples of /16, with up to 7 contiguous /16’s and 40 /16’s in total IPs.
...deletia... http://ipv4marketgroup.com/ipv4-addresses-ripe-region/ It's related to this blogpost: https://governmenttechnology.blog.gov.uk/2015/02/19/freeing-up-unused-ip-add... ...and I gather that perhaps - although it's currently being marketed as a bunch of /16s - they might also entertain the possibility of selling it as an entire /8 for a reasonable price. I'm wondering: have we passed the point of peak IPv4 scarcity? Is selling an entire /8 still a viable proposition? Apparently UK Gov may have more than one... - alec -- http://dropsafe.crypticide.com/aboutalecm
"Top Quality" ? Are they aged longer in special barrels? Polished extra nicely? (Ouch, I think I injured my eyes from the rolling) thanks, -Randy ----- On Mar 13, 2015, at 2:46 PM, Alec Muffett alec.muffett@gmail.com wrote:
Perhaps I'm odd, but I find the novelty of this to be amusing:
IPv4 Market Group Announces the Availability of a Significant Portfolio of
IPv4 Addresses for Purchase in the RIPE Region:
IPv4 Market Group, a global leader in IPv4 sales, has just announced the availability of up to 2.6 million top quality IPv4 addresses for purchase in the RIPE region. The firm’s Executive Vice President for Business Development, Jeff Mehlenbacher, said that the IPv4 blocks are being offered in multiples of /16, with up to 7 contiguous /16’s and 40 /16’s in total IPs.
...deletia...
http://ipv4marketgroup.com/ipv4-addresses-ripe-region/
It's related to this blogpost:
https://governmenttechnology.blog.gov.uk/2015/02/19/freeing-up-unused-ip-add...
...and I gather that perhaps - although it's currently being marketed as a bunch of /16s - they might also entertain the possibility of selling it as an entire /8 for a reasonable price.
I'm wondering: have we passed the point of peak IPv4 scarcity? Is selling an entire /8 still a viable proposition? Apparently UK Gov may have more than one...
- alec
unrouted addresses I expect .... What with their CTO declaring no need for IPv6 last June I do wonder if the Government is in the driving seat of its network policy. It'll be a'rolling in the aisles when HMG wakes up to find they've flogged their v4 and can't deploy v6 and are to be stuck behind a nice vendor's CGNAT policies for the duration. But they love silos. Christian Randy Carpenter wrote:
"Top Quality" ?
Are they aged longer in special barrels? Polished extra nicely?
(Ouch, I think I injured my eyes from the rolling)
thanks, -Randy
----- On Mar 13, 2015, at 2:46 PM, Alec Muffett alec.muffett@gmail.com wrote:
Perhaps I'm odd, but I find the novelty of this to be amusing:
IPv4 Market Group Announces the Availability of a Significant Portfolio of
IPv4 Addresses for Purchase in the RIPE Region:
IPv4 Market Group, a global leader in IPv4 sales, has just announced the availability of up to 2.6 million top quality IPv4 addresses for purchase in the RIPE region. The firm’s Executive Vice President for Business Development, Jeff Mehlenbacher, said that the IPv4 blocks are being offered in multiples of /16, with up to 7 contiguous /16’s and 40 /16’s in total IPs.
...deletia...
http://ipv4marketgroup.com/ipv4-addresses-ripe-region/
It's related to this blogpost:
https://governmenttechnology.blog.gov.uk/2015/02/19/freeing-up-unused-ip-add...
...and I gather that perhaps - although it's currently being marketed as a bunch of /16s - they might also entertain the possibility of selling it as an entire /8 for a reasonable price.
I'm wondering: have we passed the point of peak IPv4 scarcity? Is selling an entire /8 still a viable proposition? Apparently UK Gov may have more than one...
- alec
-- Christian de Larrinaga FBCS, CITP, MCMA ------------------------- @ FirstHand ------------------------- +44 7989 386778 cdel@firsthand.net -------------------------
On Fri, 13 Mar 2015 18:46:31 -0000, Alec Muffett said:
IPv4 Market Group, a global leader in IPv4 sales, has just announced the availability of up to 2.6 million top quality IPv4 addresses for purchase
"top quality"? Well... Yeah. They've probably had no chance to end up in any reputation filters.
On Fri, Mar 13, 2015 at 12:30 PM, <Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu> wrote:
On Fri, 13 Mar 2015 18:46:31 -0000, Alec Muffett said:
IPv4 Market Group, a global leader in IPv4 sales, has just announced the availability of up to 2.6 million top quality IPv4 addresses for purchase
"top quality"?
Well... Yeah. They've probably had no chance to end up in any reputation filters.
One may find that these dark /8s have been co-opted by large networks for private use. That said, these dark /8s and their sub-blocks may have long lasting reach-ability issues that the purchaser may not enjoy. Not saying anything is right or wrong, just saying .... like 1.1.1.0/24, there may reach-ability issues deep in 3rd party networks with these "bottom of the barrel" legacy ipv4 blocks that have been seen as "fair game for squatting on", in some circles, for many years. Caveat emptor / Deploy IPv6 CB
On Fri, Mar 13, 2015 at 3:30 PM, <Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu> wrote:
On Fri, 13 Mar 2015 18:46:31 -0000, Alec Muffett said:
IPv4 Market Group, a global leader in IPv4 sales, has just announced the availability of up to 2.6 million top quality IPv4 addresses for purchase
"top quality"?
Graded by the Boffins.
Well... Yeah. They've probably had no chance to end up in any reputation filters.
Colour me surprised that so many people are talking about the marketing schtick (or: "woe betide the seller for unspecified reasons") - and not the opportunity... but so be it. Digging around on the web I've found: http://blog.jgc.org/2012/09/the-uk-has-entire-unused-ipv4-8-that-is.html ...which suggests that it's 51.0.0.0/8 that is up for grabs. I remember a few years ago there being a bunch of "countdown to doomsday"-type blogposts and articles re: the underadoption of IPv6 and the expected fatal pressure on the declining resource of IPv4; now I'm seeing a lot of 6 in mobile, loads of NAT, and folk seem far less petrified of the future? -a On 13 March 2015 at 20:23, Christopher Morrow <morrowc.lists@gmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, 13 Mar 2015 18:46:31 -0000, Alec Muffett said:
IPv4 Market Group, a global leader in IPv4 sales, has just announced
availability of up to 2.6 million top quality IPv4 addresses for
On Fri, Mar 13, 2015 at 3:30 PM, <Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu> wrote: the purchase
"top quality"?
Graded by the Boffins.
Well... Yeah. They've probably had no chance to end up in any reputation filters.
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