someone did what i've been trying to find time for, and something similar to the www.powertech.no/smurf/ listing, check it out, as this could become an operational issue for you if you're not rate-limiting icmp at your edges.. www.netscan.org - Jared -- Jared Mauch | pgp key available via finger from jared@puck.nether.net clue++; | http://puck.nether.net/~jared/ My statements are only mine.