I've created a new mailing list that can either be cc:'ed to nanog, etc.. but can be used for telco outages that you encounter, such as fiber cuts, switch failures, etc.. to get on the list: send e-mail to telco-outages-request@puck.nether.net with a subject of subscribe to post to it, send a message to telco-outages@puck.nether.net - Jared -- Jared Mauch | pgp key available via finger from jared@puck.nether.net clue++; | http://puck.nether.net/~jared/ My statements are only mine. | "Waste Management Consultant"