RE: Schneier: ISPs should bear security burden
-----Original Message----- From: owner-nanog@merit.edu [mailto:owner-nanog@merit.edu] On Behalf Of Dan Hollis To: Owen DeLong Subject: Re: Schneier: ISPs should bear security burden
You must not have used it much in those 20 years. I can definitely say worms, trojans, spam, phishing, ddos, and other attacks is up several orders of magnitude in those 20 years.
The userbase has also increased by several orders of magnitude beyond that. 1% "bad" traffic at 100 users: 1 1% "bad" traffic at 1,000,000 users: 10,000 -JFO
Correct... Measuring reliability in terms of what's around that isn't success is not a valid method of measurment. One must measure the success rate. Does anyone really believe that they are more likely to encounter a timeout or connection drop today than 5, 10, 15, or even 20 years ago? I think not. Generally, when you click on a valid link, you get the page. Sometimes servers are slow, but, rarely do you run into network issues these days. Sure, they still occur, but, they are much less frequent than they used to be. Owen
On Thu, Apr 28, 2005 at 08:03:57AM -0500, Olsen, Jason wrote:
You must not have used it much in those 20 years. I can definitely say worms, trojans, spam, phishing, ddos, and other attacks is up several orders of magnitude in those 20 years.
The userbase has also increased by several orders of magnitude beyond that.
1% "bad" traffic at 100 users: 1 1% "bad" traffic at 1,000,000 users: 10,000
And this raises an absolutely excellent stand-alone point that seems to me to be something that netops types should be keeping uppermost in their minds: When a problem gets big enough, it's a *different* problem, not just a bigger problem. An analogy to this (actually, a result of it) is the difference between the office policies in a 5-person company and a 500-person one, or a town of 10,000 and a city of 400,000. This seems to bear on almost everything I've seen said in this thread (which is the award winner for the year so far...) Cheers, -- jra -- Jay R. Ashworth jra@baylink.com Designer Baylink RFC 2100 Ashworth & Associates The Things I Think '87 e24 St Petersburg FL USA http://baylink.pitas.com +1 727 647 1274 If you can read this... thank a system administrator. Or two. --me
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