Revealed: NSA program collects 'nearly everything a user does on the internet'
Tin foil hat Wednesday, limited supplies. Revealed: NSA program collects 'nearly everything a user does on the internet' http://gu.com/p/3hy4h Sent from my Mobile Device.
On 31 July 2013 16:46, Warren Bailey <wbailey@satelliteintelligencegroup.com> wrote:
Tin foil hat Wednesday, limited supplies.
Revealed: NSA program collects 'nearly everything a user does on the internet'
- Have I read it correctly. Can then break into a vpn connection, then leach documents that a german in pakistan is sending to his office in germany? - So excel documents store MAC address?... time to set them to random numbers :D - What is the red dots in the bottom of the map? satellites? penguin powered servers on the south pole? - The document make it looks like this exist to spy religious terrorist and industrial espionage. But who know. Woah, thats a lot of red dots in europe. Must be to protect the europeans. -- -- ℱin del ℳensaje.
On Jul 31, 2013, at 10:26 AM, "<<\"tei''>>>" <oscar.vives@gmail.com> <oscar.vives@gmail.com> wrote:
- Have I read it correctly. Can then break into a vpn connection, then leach documents that a german in pakistan is sending to his office in germany?
I would guess that it's becasuse many VPN services still support PPTP which can be attacked as outlined here: http://www.schneier.com/paper-pptpv2.html --Chris
Don't forget Theo DeRaadt's email about IPSec! http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-tech&m=129236621626462 On 31 July 2013 16:50, Chris Boyd <cboyd@gizmopartners.com> wrote:
On Jul 31, 2013, at 10:26 AM, "<<\"tei''>>>" <oscar.vives@gmail.com> < oscar.vives@gmail.com> wrote:
- Have I read it correctly. Can then break into a vpn connection, then leach documents that a german in pakistan is sending to his office in germany?
I would guess that it's becasuse many VPN services still support PPTP which can be attacked as outlined here: http://www.schneier.com/paper-pptpv2.html
--Chris
And how many people utilize a VPN for site to site? You can convince me you can spin up an Ipsec connection, but at that point your "originating gateway" changed from your way to the Internet to the VPN's way. Either.. Way.. You still head out in clear channel Internet and get owned elsewhere. I can't see a giant "this doesn't work here" sign on much except for Tor. Sent from my Mobile Device. -------- Original message -------- From: Chris Boyd <cboyd@gizmopartners.com> Date: 07/31/2013 8:52 AM (GMT-08:00) To: NANOG <nanog@nanog.org> Subject: Re: Revealed: NSA program collects 'nearly everything a user does on the internet' On Jul 31, 2013, at 10:26 AM, "<<\"tei''>>>" <oscar.vives@gmail.com> <oscar.vives@gmail.com> wrote:
- Have I read it correctly. Can then break into a vpn connection, then leach documents that a german in pakistan is sending to his office in germany?
I would guess that it's becasuse many VPN services still support PPTP which can be attacked as outlined here: http://www.schneier.com/paper-pptpv2.html --Chris
Interesting that they are showing screen captures of a ppt file. -Jorge On Jul 31, 2013, at 9:46 AM, Warren Bailey <wbailey@satelliteintelligencegroup.com> wrote:
Tin foil hat Wednesday, limited supplies.
Revealed: NSA program collects 'nearly everything a user does on the internet'
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