Re: was i asleep when the gtld servers had the worse problem today?
Thanks to the flood of complaints about the technical accuracy of the article, it has been updated: "F root-servers.net was lame for two days because it could not fetch [".com"] from NSI," he wrote. "*MY* server was not sending fatally bad answers, *THEIRS* were." Several other system administrators also said that the problem was caused by NSI and not by Vixie's machine. Holtzman and another NSI spokesman denied yesterday that the problems were caused by NSI or that they went beyond the F root server. Small problems in the root servers, Holtzman added, are "routine," and usually go unnoticed. "On any given day, we have some kind of problem with one of the root servers. It's fairly typical. This is a little worse in that it's returning something, rather than nothing." -- Stephen Sprunk, K5SSS "Oops." Email: stephen@sprunk.org CCIE #3723 -Albert Einstein ICBM: 33.00151N 96.82326W
On Thu, Nov 12, 1998 at 11:13:47AM -0600, Stephen Sprunk wrote:
Small problems in the root servers, Holtzman added, are "routine," and usually go unnoticed. "On any given day, we have some kind of problem with one of the root servers. It's fairly typical. This is a little worse in that it's returning something, rather than nothing."
David, since I'm pretty sure you're reading this list, will you please stop spin doctoring and start doing your job? Thank you. -- Steve Sobol [sjsobol@nacs.net] Part-time Support Droid [support@nacs.net] NACS Spaminator [abuse@nacs.net] Spotted on a bumper sticker: "Possum. The other white meat."
On Thu, Nov 12, 1998 at 01:53:07PM -0500, Steven J. Sobol wrote:
David, since I'm pretty sure you're reading this list, will you please stop spin doctoring and start doing your job?
When you're a publically traded company, your job becomes to spin doctor it to make it not look like your fault. It'll just take some press person calling the right people to get what's going on. Too bad people are more interested in their stock price and options than making the world work for the rest of us. - Jared
On 11/12/98, Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> wrote:
Thanks to the flood of complaints about the technical accuracy of the article, it has been updated:
The response I got from Janet Kornblum also mentioned that she's trying to find out exactly what happened...hopefully that'll be possible. -- J.D. Falk <jdfalk@cp.net> "A name indicates what we seek. Special Agent In Charge (Abuse Issues) An address indicates where it is. Critical Path, Inc. A route indicates how we get there." -- Jon Postel (1943-1998)
On Thu, 12 Nov 1998, J.D. Falk wrote: | Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 12:13:45 -0800 | From: "J.D. Falk" <jdfalk@cp.net> | To: Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org>, nanog@merit.edu | Subject: Re: was i asleep when the gtld servers had the worse problem today? | | On 11/12/98, Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> wrote: | | > Thanks to the flood of complaints about the technical accuracy of the | > article, it has been updated: | | The response I got from Janet Kornblum also mentioned that | she's trying to find out exactly what happened...hopefully | that'll be possible. | is it just me, or are people confused by the references to f.root-servers.net (Paul Vixie's machine) and f.gtld-servers.net which was also reported to have problems? I only read "F server" in this article, but there are two of those, and only f.root-servers.net is operated by volunteers, f.gtld-servers.net is (AFAIK) operated by NSI... | -- | J.D. Falk <jdfalk@cp.net> "A name indicates what we seek. | Special Agent In Charge (Abuse Issues) An address indicates where it is. | Critical Path, Inc. A route indicates how we get there." | -- Jon Postel (1943-1998) | Mathias Koerber | Tel: +65 / 471 9820 | mathias@staff.singnet.com.sg SingNet NOC | Fax: +65 / 475 3273 | mathias@koerber.org Q'town Tel. Exch. | PGP: Keyid: 768/25E082BD, finger mathias@singnet.com.sg 2 Stirling Rd | 1A 8B FC D4 93 F1 9A FC BD 98 A3 1A 0E 73 01 65 S'pore 148943 | Disclaimer: I speak only for myself * Eifersucht ist eine Leidenschaft, die mit Eifer sucht, was Leiden schafft *
On 11/12/98, Mathias Koerber <mathias@staff.singnet.com.sg> wrote:
is it just me, or are people confused by the references to f.root-servers.net (Paul Vixie's machine) and f.gtld-servers.net
which was also reported to have problems? I only read "F server" in this article, but there are two of those, and only f.root-servers.net is operated by volunteers, f.gtld-servers.net is (AFAIK) operated by NSI...
Is it just me, or does it appear that this type of confusion could have easily been avoided, and NSI decided to not even attempt to avoid it? I'm usually the last person to run around spouting conspiracy theories about Network Solutions, but this is getting silly. -- J.D. Falk <jdfalk@cp.net> "A name indicates what we seek. Special Agent In Charge (Abuse Issues) An address indicates where it is. Critical Path, Inc. A route indicates how we get there." -- Jon Postel (1943-1998)
On 11/12/98, "J.D. Falk" <jdfalk@cp.net> wrote:
I'm usually the last person to run around spouting conspiracy theories about Network Solutions, but this is getting silly.
It appears to be necessary to point out that, as always, I'm only speaking on my own behalf. Not even my goldfish, Sammy, who has been dead for over fifteen years, is interested in taking a public stance on this one. Go figure. -- J.D. Falk <jdfalk@cp.net> "A name indicates what we seek. Special Agent In Charge (Abuse Issues) An address indicates where it is. Critical Path, Inc. A route indicates how we get there." -- Jon Postel (1943-1998)
At 18:33 11/12/98 -0800, you wrote:
which was also reported to have problems? I only read "F server" in this article, but there are two of those, and only f.root-servers.net is operated by volunteers, f.gtld-servers.net is (AFAIK) operated by NSI...
Is it just me, or does it appear that this type of confusion could have easily been avoided, and NSI decided to not even attempt to avoid it?
I'm usually the last person to run around spouting conspiracy theories about Network Solutions, but this is getting silly.
Every time one of these kinds of snafus happens and NSI denies it was their fault, it reminds me of that scene from "Animal House" where the crowd tramples the ROTC cadet who's shouting "All is well!"... Spammers should be investigated by Ken Starr! Dean Robb PC-EASY computer services (757) 495-EASY [3279]
Every time one of these kinds of snafus happens and NSI denies it was their fault, it reminds me of that scene from "Animal House" where the crowd tramples the ROTC cadet who's shouting "All is well!"...
thanks for the technical analysis of the incident. randy
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