What are you doing about Six Strikes?
This just in from Lauren Weinstein. This is, of course, today. Have people actually deployed changes to support this? Cheers, -- jra ----- Forwarded Message -----
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ISP six-strikes starts tomorrow, and the expected results are ...
http://j.mp/W47lA7 (Torrent Freak)
"The much-discussed U.S. six strikes anti-piracy scheme is expected to go live on Monday. The start date hasn't been announced officially by the CCI but a source close to the scheme confirmed the plans."
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Expected results:
1) Legit users are harassed due to IP address mix-ups, etc. Remember you must pay to file an appeal.
2) Proxy services see a massive up-tick in use.
3) Public Wi-Fi access points in small stores, etc. are decimated.
4) Relatively visible Torrent-based systems are even more rapidly replaced with completely underground and well-hidden systems.
5) In relatively short order, the MPAA et al. will be back with their Congressional supporters again demanding that the Internet be remade to protect their obsolete 20th century profit center models, no matter what the costs.
--Lauren-- Lauren Weinstein (lauren@vortex.com): http://www.vortex.com/lauren
-- Jay R. Ashworth Baylink jra@baylink.com Designer The Things I Think RFC 2100 Ashworth & Associates http://baylink.pitas.com 2000 Land Rover DII St Petersburg FL USA #natog +1 727 647 1274
Jay Ashworth writes:
This just in from Lauren Weinstein. This is, of course, today.
Have people actually deployed changes to support this?
Six Strikes is not a law; it's a private agreement. http://www.scribd.com/doc/91987640/CCI-MOU -- Seth David Schoen <schoen@loyalty.org> | No haiku patents http://www.loyalty.org/~schoen/ | means I've no incentive to FD9A6AA28193A9F03D4BF4ADC11B36DC9C7DD150 | -- Don Marti
Who said it's a law? On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 11:37 AM, Seth David Schoen <schoen@loyalty.org> wrote:
Jay Ashworth writes:
This just in from Lauren Weinstein. This is, of course, today.
Have people actually deployed changes to support this?
Six Strikes is not a law; it's a private agreement.
http://www.scribd.com/doc/91987640/CCI-MOU
-- Seth David Schoen <schoen@loyalty.org> | No haiku patents http://www.loyalty.org/~schoen/ | means I've no incentive to FD9A6AA28193A9F03D4BF4ADC11B36DC9C7DD150 | -- Don Marti
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The federal agents who get the list of offenders every week?? :P On 2/25/13 10:05 AM, "Joly MacFie" <joly@punkcast.com> wrote:
Who said it's a law?
On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 11:37 AM, Seth David Schoen <schoen@loyalty.org> wrote:
Jay Ashworth writes:
This just in from Lauren Weinstein. This is, of course, today.
Have people actually deployed changes to support this?
Six Strikes is not a law; it's a private agreement.
http://www.scribd.com/doc/91987640/CCI-MOU
-- Seth David Schoen <schoen@loyalty.org> | No haiku patents http://www.loyalty.org/~schoen/ | means I've no incentive to FD9A6AA28193A9F03D4BF4ADC11B36DC9C7DD150 | -- Don Marti
-- --------------------------------------------------------------- Joly MacFie 218 565 9365 Skype:punkcast WWWhatsup NYC - http://wwwhatsup.com http://pinstand.com - http://punkcast.com VP (Admin) - ISOC-NY - http://isoc-ny.org -------------------------------------------------------------- -
On 2/25/13 10:23 AM, "Jay Ashworth" <jra@baylink.com> wrote:
Expected results:
1) Legit users are harassed due to IP address mix-ups, etc. Remember you must pay to file an appeal.
Other than a few IP mix ups years ago, is this still really an issue? It seems ISPs have pretty reliable IP lease histories for many years to support LEA requests and other needs... - Jason
Yo Jason! On Mon, 25 Feb 2013 20:07:43 +0000 "Livingood, Jason" <Jason_Livingood@cable.comcast.com> wrote:
1) Legit users are harassed due to IP address mix-ups, etc. Remember you must pay to file an appeal.
Other than a few IP mix ups years ago, is this still really an issue?
It has been for me. My SWIP records are up to date but the copyright trolls can't be bothered with the facts of my IPs. RGDS GARY --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Bend, OR 97701 gem@rellim.com Tel:+1(541)382-8588
On Mon, 25 Feb 2013 20:07:43 +0000, "Livingood, Jason" said:
Other than a few IP mix ups years ago, is this still really an issue? It seems ISPs have pretty reliable IP lease histories for many years to support LEA requests and other needs...
The fact that the ISP has a good record of what customer had what IP address doesn't do much good if the agency hired to do the dirty work calls the ISP and gives it the wrong IP or timestamp in the the report...
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From: "Valdis Kletnieks" <Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu>
On Mon, 25 Feb 2013 20:07:43 +0000, "Livingood, Jason" said:
Other than a few IP mix ups years ago, is this still really an issue? It seems ISPs have pretty reliable IP lease histories for many years to support LEA requests and other needs...
The fact that the ISP has a good record of what customer had what IP address doesn't do much good if the agency hired to do the dirty work calls the ISP and gives it the wrong IP or timestamp in the the report...
And since the labels and their contractors are arguably Happy Enough if they reduce "pirating" by *scaring* everyone rather than actually hitting the targets, they have little incentive to care, unless one is provided to them, um, externally. Cheers, -- jra -- Jay R. Ashworth Baylink jra@baylink.com Designer The Things I Think RFC 2100 Ashworth & Associates http://baylink.pitas.com 2000 Land Rover DII St Petersburg FL USA #natog +1 727 647 1274
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Gary E. Miller
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Jay Ashworth
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Joly MacFie
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Livingood, Jason
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Seth David Schoen
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Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu
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Warren Bailey