Cablevision's company line on IPv6 to the home
I just got off the phone with a level 1 tech support guy about an issue with my parents Cablevision/Optimum Online service and decided to ask the fellow if there's any official company news about IPv6 being in the works. His comments were that there is a test coming up (he was referring to World IPv6 Day), though he admitted that Cablevision is choosing not to participate in the "test" because they want to wait to see that IPv6 actually works without problems before they turn it on. He said it with a tone that seemed to express that the World IPv6 Day "test" is an irresponsible diversion. I politely and without any noticeable condescension (I believe) told him "that's what I expected" and bid him adieu. It's neat how they're going to skip that irresponsible testing phase and just turn it on one day and it's going to work perfectly. And I wonder how they'll know when IPv6 is done. Maybe is has one of those things that frozen turkeys have, that pops out when it's done. I've got my HE tunnels up and running on a Mikrotik hardware on the little networks I manage. I can't wait for IPv6 Day. So someone on the list please let Cablevision/Optonline know when you've finished IPv6. I'm sure they'd appreciate it. Greg
Since IPv6 is like a frozen turkey.... Just make sure they remember to take the giblets out... Based on personal... ummmm... "experience"... that will drastically change when something (if ever) gets done! ;) Scott On 5/28/11 4:21 PM, Greg Ihnen wrote:
I just got off the phone with a level 1 tech support guy about an issue with my parents Cablevision/Optimum Online service and decided to ask the fellow if there's any official company news about IPv6 being in the works. His comments were that there is a test coming up (he was referring to World IPv6 Day), though he admitted that Cablevision is choosing not to participate in the "test" because they want to wait to see that IPv6 actually works without problems before they turn it on. He said it with a tone that seemed to express that the World IPv6 Day "test" is an irresponsible diversion. I politely and without any noticeable condescension (I believe) told him "that's what I expected" and bid him adieu.
It's neat how they're going to skip that irresponsible testing phase and just turn it on one day and it's going to work perfectly.
And I wonder how they'll know when IPv6 is done. Maybe is has one of those things that frozen turkeys have, that pops out when it's done.
I've got my HE tunnels up and running on a Mikrotik hardware on the little networks I manage. I can't wait for IPv6 Day.
So someone on the list please let Cablevision/Optonline know when you've finished IPv6. I'm sure they'd appreciate it.
Greg
Cablevision (AS6128) does have globally routable IPv6 space (2001:48a0::/32), but I'm not sure what they are doing with it just yet. I'm sure a Level 1 tech support individual is not the company spokesman on IPv6, or anything else. -Phil On 5/28/11 4:21 PM, "Greg Ihnen" <os10rules@gmail.com> wrote:
I just got off the phone with a level 1 tech support guy about an issue with my parents Cablevision/Optimum Online service and decided to ask the fellow if there's any official company news about IPv6 being in the works. His comments were that there is a test coming up (he was referring to World IPv6 Day), though he admitted that Cablevision is choosing not to participate in the "test" because they want to wait to see that IPv6 actually works without problems before they turn it on. He said it with a tone that seemed to express that the World IPv6 Day "test" is an irresponsible diversion. I politely and without any noticeable condescension (I believe) told him "that's what I expected" and bid him adieu.
It's neat how they're going to skip that irresponsible testing phase and just turn it on one day and it's going to work perfectly.
And I wonder how they'll know when IPv6 is done. Maybe is has one of those things that frozen turkeys have, that pops out when it's done.
I've got my HE tunnels up and running on a Mikrotik hardware on the little networks I manage. I can't wait for IPv6 Day.
So someone on the list please let Cablevision/Optonline know when you've finished IPv6. I'm sure they'd appreciate it.
Greg
On Sat, May 28, 2011 at 4:21 PM, Greg Ihnen <os10rules@gmail.com> wrote:
I just got off the phone with a level 1 tech support guy about an issue with my parents Cablevision/Optimum Online service and decided to ask the fellow if there's any official company news about IPv6 being in the works. His comments were that there is a test coming up (he was referring to World IPv6 Day), though he admitted that Cablevision is choosing not to participate in the "test" because they want to wait to see that IPv6 actually works without problems before they turn it on. He said it with a tone that seemed to express that the World IPv6 Day "test" is an irresponsible diversion. I politely and without any noticeable condescension (I believe) told him "that's what I expected" and bid him adieu.
It's neat how they're going to skip that irresponsible testing phase and just turn it on one day and it's going to work perfectly.
Because when I want to know details of future major architectural changes to a network, I usually ask a level 1 tech support guy since he's the one most likely to know, right? He'll know it's being rolled out when they create a script for him to follow. One that'll likely say something like "For IPv6 problems, immediately escalate to someone we've actually training in IPv6." Bob
On May 30, 2011, at 8:56 PM, Bob Snyder wrote:
On Sat, May 28, 2011 at 4:21 PM, Greg Ihnen <os10rules@gmail.com> wrote:
I just got off the phone with a level 1 tech support guy about an issue with my parents Cablevision/Optimum Online service and decided to ask the fellow if there's any official company news about IPv6 being in the works. His comments were that there is a test coming up (he was referring to World IPv6 Day), though he admitted that Cablevision is choosing not to participate in the "test" because they want to wait to see that IPv6 actually works without problems before they turn it on. He said it with a tone that seemed to express that the World IPv6 Day "test" is an irresponsible diversion. I politely and without any noticeable condescension (I believe) told him "that's what I expected" and bid him adieu.
It's neat how they're going to skip that irresponsible testing phase and just turn it on one day and it's going to work perfectly.
Because when I want to know details of future major architectural changes to a network, I usually ask a level 1 tech support guy since he's the one most likely to know, right?
Should I answer that? No, that was sarcasm. Nice touch. See my post where I address the fact that I wanted to know what the company's official public position is, as you said, the "script". In that post I mention I qualified the fact that the fellow was level 1 for obvious reasons. I wasn't trying to say he had technical insight. The official script does possibly say something about the company's desire/willingness/urgency/felt need to deploy IPv6. Does hearing that there's fast and furious work going on in the NOC to bring IPv6 capability mean it will be rolled out to the customer in short order? I'd say the answer to that is "who knows". It's not an apples to apples comparison with Cablevision's territory but down in my neck of the woods where I live the guys who work the telco's switch in town have been telling me for years that the "banda ancha" (broadband) gear is all installed as is the fiber back to the capitol and they're just waiting for the bureaucratic "OK" to turn it on. They've cut grooves in the town's "perimetral" (perimeter) road and ran fiber in the road ringing the town. That was almost two years ago. Sure seems like broadband could be just around the corner right? And the years drag on, no broadband. Sometimes the company's official public stance (from like... um... the level 1 guys) is highly indicative of what's coming. I'm surprised that all ISPs aren't trying to glom onto IPv6 the way so many companies now feel the need to claim to be "green" just because you don't want to be the last one in your market place not claiming to be "green". Then again, maybe you're just trolling. For trolling I like a Rapala lure (negative buoyancy) or live bait with a weight. Here in the jungle they take an empty jug, tie a line on it and put a big hook on the end with some kind of meat or fish and throw them out in the river and them float down river with the current, mostly for the big catfish. It's the lazy man's trolling. Greg
He'll know it's being rolled out when they create a script for him to follow. One that'll likely say something like "For IPv6 problems, immediately escalate to someone we've actually training in IPv6."
Bob
On Sat, May 28, 2011 at 4:21 PM, Greg Ihnen <os10rules@gmail.com> wrote:
I just got off the phone with a level 1 tech support guy about an issue with my parents Cablevision/Optimum Online service and decided to ask the fellow if there's any official company news about IPv6 being in the works. His comments
comments from techsupport aside.. the cablevision folks did have 2-3 folks at ARIN in ... SanJuan (I think?) who were very interested and dedicated to pushing v6 to their consumer population. I think they (as well as every other consumer provider) have a lot of challenges in the last-mile architecture/etc, but they do seem dedicated to solving things for users. I think the gentlemen I ended up chatting with from CV was commenting on PPML as well at the time... I'm sure a quick perusal of that list would get you his POC info for queries... which are more likely to get useful answers than nanog posts will. -chris
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