On 11/09/2011 11:40 AM, Jeroen Massar wrote:

On 2011-11-09 17:32 , Brzozowski, John wrote:

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Update from http://www.comcast6.net IPv6 Pilot Market Deployment Begins Wednesday, November 9, 2011

Comcast has started our first pilot market deployment of IPv6... Congrats! One step closer to full deployment!

Greets, Jeroen

Sort of interesting that you are only handing out a single address and not a prefix - which seems contradictory to all recommended practices. Will this be a continued effort for ISP's to charge for extra routable addresses? My $.02 -- Stephen Clark *NetWolves* Sr. Software Engineer III Phone: 813-579-3200 Fax: 813-882-0209 Email: steve.clark@netwolves.com http://www.netwolves.com

This is excellent news, John and I encourage you and the folks at Comcast to keep up the good work. I wait with baited breath for the day I can move my business class connection to IPv6. Owen On Nov 9, 2011, at 8:54 AM, Brzozowski, John wrote:

This is not all we are pursuing, it is part of our incremental enablement and deployment. We have a non-trivial population of users that are directly connected versus using a home router. If you notice we also mention that we will soon be sharing information about customer home gateway plans.

Stay tuned.

John ========================================= John Jason Brzozowski Comcast Cable e) mailto:john_brzozowski@cable.comcast.com o) 609-377-6594 m) 484-962-0060 w) http://www.comcast6.net =========================================

On 11/9/11 11:47 AM, "Steve Clark" <sclark@netwolves.com> wrote:

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On 11/09/2011 11:40 AM, Jeroen Massar wrote:

On 2011-11-09 17:32 , Brzozowski, John wrote:

Update from http://www.comcast6.net IPv6 Pilot Market Deployment Begins Wednesday, November 9, 2011

Comcast has started our first pilot market deployment of IPv6...

Congrats! One step closer to full deployment!

Greets, Jeroen

Sort of interesting that you are only handing out a single address and not a prefix - which seems contradictory to all recommended practices.

Will this be a continued effort for ISP's to charge for extra routable addresses?

My $.02

-- Stephen Clark NetWolves Sr. Software Engineer III Phone: 813-579-3200 Fax: 813-882-0209 Email: steve.clark@netwolves.com http://www.netwolves.com

:) ========================================= John Jason Brzozowski Comcast Cable e) mailto:john_brzozowski@cable.comcast.com o) 609-377-6594 m) 484-962-0060 w) http://www.comcast6.net ========================================= On 11/9/11 11:49 AM, "Cameron Byrne" <cb.list6@gmail.com> wrote:

On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 8:40 AM, Jeroen Massar <jeroen@unfix.org> wrote:

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On 2011-11-09 17:32 , Brzozowski, John wrote:

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Update from http://www.comcast6.net IPv6 Pilot Market Deployment Begins Wednesday, November 9, 2011

Comcast has started our first pilot market deployment of IPv6...

Congrats! One step closer to full deployment!

+1

Glad to hear some good news about IPv6 deployment. Now, lets talk about deployment in Seattle :)

On 11/9/11 11:54 AM, "Blake T. Pfankuch" <blake@pfankuch.me> wrote:

This appears directed at the Home market. Any word on the Business Class market even as a /128?

Business Class is coming later. It won't hurt to contact the Business Class sales number and ask about IPv6 (and tell them to escalate it) - it all helps get us internal support and buy in. It is definitely on our radar though. - Jason

On 11/9/2011 08:58, Livingood, Jason wrote:

On 11/9/11 11:54 AM, "Blake T. Pfankuch"<blake@pfankuch.me> wrote:

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This appears directed at the Home market. Any word on the Business Class market even as a /128? Business Class is coming later. It won't hurt to contact the Business Class sales number and ask about IPv6 (and tell them to escalate it) - it all helps get us internal support and buy in. It is definitely on our radar though.

- Jason

Yeh. I've been waiting since before the trial started for biz class IPv6. I even read some article on one of the Comcast sites (IIRC) that one of their business class customers was doing NDS. I guess it was a one-off. :)

My understanding is that Comcast only does IPv6 on business customers that are on their "backbone" network, not those on their docsis network. If you have BGP or fiber with 7922 you should be able to get IPv6. - Jared On Jun 1, 2012, at 9:51 AM, Jimmy Sadri wrote:

Wow... I just wanted some info on deployment scheduling and possilbe timelines for getting Ipv6 and I get all that. Gotta say they could really do better in the customer service dept. I wonder if you guys have any more info on this or can at least point me in the right direction... like I said I already tried Comcast Business Support with the above results... so I guess if you can help find out this before World Ipv6 day so that I could participate that would be ideal... I wonder if anyone else has tried getting this info on the list with better results?

Jimmy, Trust me, I work for Comcast and run the IPv6 program. This has been the case for nearly 7 years. We can take some of the items below off list. We have launched IPv6 for residential broadband at this time. Commercial DOCSIS support is later this year. We can do two things. Get you a residential trial kit so you can have IPv6 for W6L and make sure I have your information for when we start trials for commercial DOCSIS support for IPv6. John ========================================= John Jason Brzozowski Comcast Cable m) +1-609-377-6594 e) mailto:john_brzozowski@cable.comcast.com o) +1-484-962-0060 w) http://www.comcast6.net ========================================= -----Original Message----- From: Jimmy Sadri <jimmys@myesn.com> Date: Friday, June 1, 2012 9:51 AM To: Jason Livingood <Jason_Livingood@cable.comcast.com>, "'Blake T. Pfankuch'" <blake@pfankuch.me>, John Jason Brzozowski <john_brzozowski@cable.comcast.com>, NANOG <nanog@nanog.org> Subject: RE: Comcast IPv6 Update

Jason, I remembered this post and decided to check on the status of this for World Ipv6 day coming up in on the 5th of this month and so I called Comcast bussiness support... what a nightmare... the first guy told me that I already have static IP address so why do I need Ipv6 addresses? Then he told me that I can still "surf the Internet" with Ipv4 addresses and I don't need Ipv6 addresses. I asked to speak to someone who knows more about the Ipv6 rollout he then told me that there is nothing to know. I tried to get him to "escalate it" as you suggested below but he refused telling me that a request for Ipv6 addresses is not a valid technical reason to escalate. He did offer to let me speak to his supervisor. His supervisor wasn't much better. I explained to him how I have been following things on comcast6.net and with Ipv6 day coming up I thought maybe there had been somekind of forward progress on deployment and could he at least point me in the right direction for someone to talk to about it. He then told me that there is no such person and that if there was such a person that Comcast's Ipv6 rollout plans and locations are proprietary information not to revealed to customers like me. I referenced NANOG and the below post and was told first that how do I know that person is actually a Comcast employee? I guess besides the addresses from you guys @cable.comcast.com I don't know for sure that you guys are actually Comcast employees I just asume that you are who you say you are. For the record I don't doubt that you guys work for Comcast but then the supervisor tells me that even IF the people I referenced DO work for Comcast that they are in violation of company policy for speaking in a public forum and claiming to work for Comcast...

Wow... I just wanted some info on deployment scheduling and possilbe timelines for getting Ipv6 and I get all that. Gotta say they could really do better in the customer service dept. I wonder if you guys have any more info on this or can at least point me in the right direction... like I said I already tried Comcast Business Support with the above results... so I guess if you can help find out this before World Ipv6 day so that I could participate that would be ideal... I wonder if anyone else has tried getting this info on the list with better results?

- Jimmy

-----Original Message----- From: Livingood, Jason [mailto:Jason_Livingood@cable.comcast.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2011 8:58 AM To: Blake T. Pfankuch; Brzozowski, John; NANOG Subject: Re: Comcast IPv6 Update

On 11/9/11 11:54 AM, "Blake T. Pfankuch" <blake@pfankuch.me> wrote:

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This appears directed at the Home market. Any word on the Business Class market even as a /128?

Business Class is coming later. It won't hurt to contact the Business Class sales number and ask about IPv6 (and tell them to escalate it) - it all helps get us internal support and buy in. It is definitely on our radar though.

- Jason

On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 2:06 PM, Seth Mattinen <sethm@rollernet.us> wrote:

Forgive me if this is a stupid question since I've never been a cable guy, but what's physical difference between residential and commercial coax?

Not much, as far as I can tell. I'm a commercial ("Business Class" in Comcast's terminology) coax customer; the CPE is just plugged into the cable outlet in my apartment. Comcast requires you to use the CPE they supply if you want a static IP up through a /28 on commercial coax, which is kind of a shame. (Also, a /28 seems to be the largest block they will give you over commercial coax.) Their CPE announces your address space into Comcast's network with RIPv2, and presumably they don't wish to share the RIP credentials with small customers. In the past, the admin ("mso") passwords were the same on all of their commercial coax CPE so you could tinker if desired, but that is no longer the case. Some people have speculated that there are different QAMs (frequencies) for commercial vs residential customers, but I have not seen any indication that that is the case. Finally, there is no 250 GB cap on commercial coax service, for now. (Not that that's a physical difference.) -Rusty

On 6/1/2012 12:21, Jared Mauch wrote:

On Fri, Jun 01, 2012 at 11:06:24AM -0700, Seth Mattinen wrote:

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On 6/1/12 7:04 AM, Brzozowski, John wrote:

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Jimmy,

Trust me, I work for Comcast and run the IPv6 program. This has been the case for nearly 7 years. We can take some of the items below off list.

We have launched IPv6 for residential broadband at this time. Commercial DOCSIS support is later this year.

We can do two things. Get you a residential trial kit so you can have IPv6 for W6L and make sure I have your information for when we start trials for commercial DOCSIS support for IPv6.

Forgive me if this is a stupid question since I've never been a cable guy, but what's physical difference between residential and commercial coax? Usually these are terminated on a different CMTS and may use different frequencies allocated.

From a business side, there is a higher SLA afforded to the users, including phone notification of planned outages, etc that would happen.

- Jared

Ah I didn't know they even used separate CMTS for the biz customers.