David Barak wrote:

This is not correct - on network TV in utah, and on the "family-friendly" cableco feed, you can see the various prophylactic manufacturers' ads.

Remember, this is about "minors". I'm no expert on the Utah code, but a simple search showed: (1) It's illegal to offer contraceptive services to minors. (2) It's illegal to counsel minors about such services. (3) If they even ask, you're required to report them, and it's a criminal offense to fail to report them. So, Utah law _already_ means no links to Planned Parenthood et alia. Note well, everything about sex between "unmarried persons" (of any age) is illegal "fornication". So those contraceptive ads had better have strict showing of married persons.... (Probably not well enforced.) In addition, the abortion section is egregiously unconstitutional, and they know it. So, they actually include sections on reversion when it's found unconstitutional -- but only by the US Supreme Court, in an attempt to keep trying for the years waiting on appeals. (See the rest of Title 76 chapter 7 "Offenses against the Family".) And for those of you who actually read the new law, you'll notice that it prohibits "pornography" on-line. Anything, at any age. Blatantly unconstitutional (legally, only obscenity and actual child molestation can be prohibited -- and child means "prepubescent"). Note that the chapters on Offenses Against "Family" (7), "Decency" (9), and "Morals" (10) are more than 3 times as long as "Property" (6, which has all the usual stuff that most people think of as crime).

Many of the statements I've seen here are very "doom and gloom" about Utah - honestly, folks, it's not THAT bad.

Maybe not to the general public, but how do you get past all the bedroom peepers? Did you know your legislators were doing all this? And did you think about how this affects the Internet? Steven J. Sobol wrote:

On Wed, 23 Mar 2005 Michael.Dillon@radianz.com wrote:

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Finally, someone who recognizes what this bill is all about. It merely asks ISPs to provide parents with a filtering tool that cannot be overridden by their children because the process of filtering takes place entirely outside the home.

Are you absolutely sure that that's all the bill will actually do?

Obviously, Dillon didn't read Bellovin's pointers to the actual law. <rant> Folks, the Internet as we know it would not have existed had not certain persons (such as me) volunteered at their local political campaigns and made regular contact with their local politicians and political parties. Get off your behinds, and work on politics. That means going to a lot of meetings, and making phone calls, and writing letters. Not just on presidential election years, but all the time! It's important! (And besides, it's a good start on a social life for you desk jockeys.) "The price of liberty is eternal vigilance." or vice versa. "Conviction is worthless unless it is converted into conduct." http://www.freedomkeys.com/vigil.htm </rant> And make sure your companies are funding CDT.org, EFF.org, and EPIC.org! -- William Allen Simpson Key fingerprint = 17 40 5E 67 15 6F 31 26 DD 0D B9 9B 6A 15 2C 32