new guest room SSID for NANOG
All, The hotel is in the process of deploying an SSID throughout the guest room network that terminates to the NANOG external router, rather than the hotel's gateway. The SSID is NANOG-guest. They stated it will take a couple of hours to be fully operational in the guest room space. As always, please let me know if you have any questions. Cheers, Noah -- Noah K. Weis Verilan, Inc. m: +1-503-902-2491
On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 5:43 PM, Noah Weis <nweis@verilan.com> wrote:
All,
The hotel is in the process of deploying an SSID throughout the guest room network that terminates to the NANOG external router, rather than the hotel's gateway.
The SSID is NANOG-guest.
They stated it will take a couple of hours to be fully operational in the guest room space.
Thanks!
On Oct 10, 2011, at 3:16 PM, Christopher Morrow wrote:
On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 5:43 PM, Noah Weis <nweis@verilan.com> wrote:
All,
The hotel is in the process of deploying an SSID throughout the guest room network that terminates to the NANOG external router, rather than the hotel's gateway.
The SSID is NANOG-guest.
They stated it will take a couple of hours to be fully operational in the guest room space.
Thanks!
Yay!! IPv6 in my room! WOOT! Owen
Noah - Very nice... I also notice it's IPv6 enabled. :-) Thanks! /John On Oct 10, 2011, at 5:43 PM, Noah Weis wrote:
All,
The hotel is in the process of deploying an SSID throughout the guest room network that terminates to the NANOG external router, rather than the hotel's gateway.
The SSID is NANOG-guest.
They stated it will take a couple of hours to be fully operational in the guest room space.
As always, please let me know if you have any questions.
Cheers,
Noah
--
Noah K. Weis Verilan, Inc. m: +1-503-902-2491
Very nice. I wonder if this is an option we could try to use in future meetings. It makes sense, really, since we already have decent connectivity for the conference areas, and we wouldn't be destroying the hotel's outside connection (only their WiFi ;-) ) -Randy ----- Original Message -----
Noah -
Very nice... I also notice it's IPv6 enabled. :-)
Thanks! /John
On Oct 10, 2011, at 5:43 PM, Noah Weis wrote:
All,
The hotel is in the process of deploying an SSID throughout the guest room network that terminates to the NANOG external router, rather than the hotel's gateway.
The SSID is NANOG-guest.
They stated it will take a couple of hours to be fully operational in the guest room space.
As always, please let me know if you have any questions.
Cheers,
Noah
--
Noah K. Weis Verilan, Inc. m: +1-503-902-2491
On Oct 10, 2011, at 8:12 PM, Randy Carpenter wrote:
Very nice. I wonder if this is an option we could try to use in future meetings. It makes sense, really, since we already have decent connectivity for the conference areas, and we wouldn't be destroying the hotel's outside connection (only their WiFi ;-) )
With enough leverage in the contracting process, you may be able to get them to agree to allow such (particularly since it can be next to impossible to get a configuration clueful person involved early in the process...) Whether they can actually deliver (i.e. do they have any control over their own wireless network, any onsite staff that actually knows networking, etc.) plus the potential liability that results from changing that configuration is entirely another matter. Nearly every hotel you contract with for the first time results in a different scenario, but I agree it is worth keeping in mind for the hotels that have competent on-site access since diverting the hotel room traffic for conference attendees improves performance for everyone. /John
On 10/10/11 17:12 , Randy Carpenter wrote:
Very nice. I wonder if this is an option we could try to use in future meetings. It makes sense, really, since we already have decent connectivity for the conference areas, and we wouldn't be destroying the hotel's outside connection (only their WiFi ;-) )
having negotiated or attempted to negotiate this as part of a number of hotel contracts, I'd note that while nice to have this is not always possible, so while I'd put it on the list, if it becomes a deal-breaker it would substantially reduce the number of available venues or result in payment of significant considerations to the hotel for the lost revenue from non-nanog guests to the hotel, for whom internet is generally an upsell unless included in their rate.
-Randy
----- Original Message -----
Noah -
Very nice... I also notice it's IPv6 enabled. :-)
Thanks! /John
On Oct 10, 2011, at 5:43 PM, Noah Weis wrote:
All,
The hotel is in the process of deploying an SSID throughout the guest room network that terminates to the NANOG external router, rather than the hotel's gateway.
The SSID is NANOG-guest.
They stated it will take a couple of hours to be fully operational in the guest room space.
As always, please let me know if you have any questions.
Cheers,
Noah
--
Noah K. Weis Verilan, Inc. m: +1-503-902-2491
On Oct 10, 2011, at 9:44 PM, Joel jaeggli wrote:
On 10/10/11 17:12 , Randy Carpenter wrote:
Very nice. I wonder if this is an option we could try to use in future meetings. It makes sense, really, since we already have decent connectivity for the conference areas, and we wouldn't be destroying the hotel's outside connection (only their WiFi ;-) )
having negotiated or attempted to negotiate this as part of a number of hotel contracts, I'd note that while nice to have this is not always possible, so while I'd put it on the list, if it becomes a deal-breaker it would substantially reduce the number of available venues or result in payment of significant considerations to the hotel for the lost revenue from non-nanog guests to the hotel, for whom internet is generally an upsell unless included in their rate.
Should be pretty easy to convince the hotel that upselling NANOGers internet isn't going to result in revenue unless their network somehow miraculously handles the load. Instead, they can look forward to ~500 people wanting that charge reversed on checkout due to the hotel's inability to provide sufficient capacity. Owen
-Randy
----- Original Message -----
Noah -
Very nice... I also notice it's IPv6 enabled. :-)
Thanks! /John
On Oct 10, 2011, at 5:43 PM, Noah Weis wrote:
All,
The hotel is in the process of deploying an SSID throughout the guest room network that terminates to the NANOG external router, rather than the hotel's gateway.
The SSID is NANOG-guest.
They stated it will take a couple of hours to be fully operational in the guest room space.
As always, please let me know if you have any questions.
Cheers,
Noah
--
Noah K. Weis Verilan, Inc. m: +1-503-902-2491
On 10/11/11 8:19 AM, Owen DeLong wrote:
Should be pretty easy to convince the hotel that upselling NANOGers internet isn't going to result in revenue unless their network somehow miraculously handles the load.
Instead, they can look forward to ~500 people wanting that charge reversed on checkout due to the hotel's inability to provide sufficient capacity.
As has been said in other parts of this thread NANOG typically negotiates to have in room internet removed from the attendees bill. Also +1 regarding what Joel and John have said regarding the business complexities surrounding making the conference network available in-room or otherwise manipulating the existing network infrastructure of the hotel. Its worth a try but sometimes it is just not practical to do this.
great idea. next, it would be nice to be able to get a dhcp address from it randy
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Randy Bush -
Randy Carpenter