Howdy, With so much work shut down, I'm curious how backhoe season is shaping up this year? How do the circuit and fiber outage numbers look? Regards, Bill Herrin -- William Herrin bill@herrin.us https://bill.herrin.us/
No change from my perspective, have had a few in the last few days, business as usual. Erich Kaiser On Thu, Mar 26, 2020 at 12:58 PM William Herrin <bill@herrin.us> wrote:
Howdy,
With so much work shut down, I'm curious how backhoe season is shaping up this year? How do the circuit and fiber outage numbers look?
Regards, Bill Herrin
-- William Herrin bill@herrin.us https://bill.herrin.us/
The house power was taken out, while we’re all WFH, thanks to Detroit Edison and their backhoes KNOW YOUR ENEMY 😊 From: NANOG <nanog-bounces@nanog.org> On Behalf Of Kaiser, Erich Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2020 2:00 PM To: William Herrin <bill@herrin.us> Cc: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: Backhoe season? No change from my perspective, have had a few in the last few days, business as usual. Erich Kaiser On Thu, Mar 26, 2020 at 12:58 PM William Herrin <bill@herrin.us<mailto:bill@herrin.us>> wrote: Howdy, With so much work shut down, I'm curious how backhoe season is shaping up this year? How do the circuit and fiber outage numbers look? Regards, Bill Herrin -- William Herrin bill@herrin.us<mailto:bill@herrin.us> https://bill.herrin.us/
I heard, and am seeing that construction type jobs don't seem to be affected much with the virus shutdown. I mean I see guys building homes and working on roads all around me... furthermore, we've heard of a couple fiber cuts that have brought portions of our network down a couple times in the last week or so. -Aaron -----Original Message----- From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-bounces@nanog.org] On Behalf Of William Herrin Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2020 12:57 PM To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Backhoe season? Howdy, With so much work shut down, I'm curious how backhoe season is shaping up this year? How do the circuit and fiber outage numbers look? Regards, Bill Herrin -- William Herrin bill@herrin.us https://bill.herrin.us/
On 26/03/2020 20:02, Aaron Gould wrote: Numerous gov'ts and municipalities, which had planned constructions jobs but postponed them to the summer due to heavy traffic volume, have started to implement all those construction jobs, which includes backhoes. -Hank
I heard, and am seeing that construction type jobs don't seem to be affected much with the virus shutdown. I mean I see guys building homes and working on roads all around me... furthermore, we've heard of a couple fiber cuts that have brought portions of our network down a couple times in the last week or so.
-Aaron
-----Original Message----- From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-bounces@nanog.org] On Behalf Of William Herrin Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2020 12:57 PM To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Backhoe season?
Howdy,
With so much work shut down, I'm curious how backhoe season is shaping up this year? How do the circuit and fiber outage numbers look?
Regards, Bill Herrin
On Mar 27, 2020, at 2:32 AM, Hank Nussbacher <hank@efes.iucc.ac.il> wrote:
On 26/03/2020 20:02, Aaron Gould wrote:
Numerous gov'ts and municipalities, which had planned constructions jobs but postponed them to the summer due to heavy traffic volume, have started to implement all those construction jobs, which includes backhoes.
Around here this is what is deemed essential: - snip - All gas, electric, telcom, fiber, and MDOT projects are considered "critical infrastructure" and essential under Governor Whitmer's Executive Order 2020-21. ONLY those doing work essential to the needs of our state and our infrastructure should be placing tickets. - snip - This means that my fiber construction is ongoing. Plus those crews shouldn’t get closer than 6’ from each other in most cases. - Jared
On 31/Mar/20 13:56, Jared Mauch wrote:
Around here this is what is deemed essential:
- snip -
All gas, electric, telcom, fiber, and MDOT projects are considered "critical infrastructure" and essential under Governor Whitmer's Executive Order 2020-21. ONLY those doing work essential to the needs of our state and our infrastructure should be placing tickets.
- snip -
This means that my fiber construction is ongoing. Plus those crews shouldn’t get closer than 6’ from each other in most cases.
Oh dear. Gubbermints can't tell the difference between "construction" and "maintenance". While all these are "essential services", the organizations, themselves, need to determine what that means for them and their employees from a health & safety perspective. Falling back on, "Well, the gubbermint didn't tell us that we should only fix breaks and not build new projects, so we don't see anything wrong" is reckless. Ah well. Mark.
Every country or state may be different. I am in Denmark/Europe and we consider cable digging as low risk work in regards to the virus. It is outdoor and the workers are in groups of two people keeping distance to other coworkers. Our FTTH buildout is not slowed much at all. We do avoid going inside homes which means the installation is not finished. But we can run cable ducts up to the building, blow fiber into said duct and do the fiber splicing at the cabinet end. We also make new backbone and ready new areas for FTTH. All of this means we also see the usual amount of damage done to our stuff from other parties. In this case we will do home visits to get someone online again. Internet is considered critical infrastructure, so we must do so. Regards Baldur tor. 26. mar. 2020 18.59 skrev William Herrin <bill@herrin.us>:
Howdy,
With so much work shut down, I'm curious how backhoe season is shaping up this year? How do the circuit and fiber outage numbers look?
Regards, Bill Herrin
-- William Herrin bill@herrin.us https://bill.herrin.us/
On Thu, Mar 26, 2020, at 18:56, William Herrin wrote:
Howdy,
With so much work shut down, I'm curious how backhoe season is shaping up this year? How do the circuit and fiber outage numbers look?
It seems that in France there are alternatives to backhoes (fr: pelleteuse, jargon: pelleteuz) : https://mobile.twitter.com/acontios_net/status/1242911425938493447 (tldr: scissors seem to work well enough in street sheltres)
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