http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-17576745 It's sad when you just can't tell with things like this.. -- Leigh ______________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned by the Symantec Email Security.cloud service. For more information please visit http://www.symanteccloud.com ______________________________________________________________________
I hate April 1 on the Web. You are right you never can tell. I would be appalled if someone as respectable as the BBC stoops to downright dumb pranks. However, it is England. They have some of the most strict laws in the "Free" world. I hate the Interweb on April 1. lol -----Original Message----- From: Leigh Porter <leigh.porter@ukbroadband.com> Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2012 10:45:51 +0000 To: "nanog@nanog.org" <nanog@nanog.org> Subject: April fools joke?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-17576745
It's sad when you just can't tell with things like this..
-- Leigh
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April 1st or not its the gist of that story is probably already true whether you know it or not. On Sun, Apr 1, 2012 at 10:30 AM, Justin Wilson <lists@mtin.net> wrote:
I hate April 1 on the Web. You are right you never can tell. I would be appalled if someone as respectable as the BBC stoops to downright dumb pranks.
However, it is England. They have some of the most strict laws in the "Free" world.
I hate the Interweb on April 1. lol
-----Original Message----- From: Leigh Porter <leigh.porter@ukbroadband.com> Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2012 10:45:51 +0000 To: "nanog@nanog.org" <nanog@nanog.org> Subject: April fools joke?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-17576745
It's sad when you just can't tell with things like this..
-- Leigh
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On Sunday, 1 April 2012, chris wrote:
April 1st or not its the gist of that story is probably already true whether you know it or not.
On Sun, Apr 1, 2012 at 10:30 AM, Justin Wilson <lists@mtin.net<javascript:;>> wrote:
I hate April 1 on the Web. You are right you never can tell. I would be appalled if someone as respectable as the BBC stoops to downright dumb pranks.
However, it is England. They have some of the most strict laws in the "Free" world.
I hate the Interweb on April 1. lol
-----Original Message----- From: Leigh Porter <leigh.porter@ukbroadband.com <javascript:;>> Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2012 10:45:51 +0000 To: "nanog@nanog.org <javascript:;>" <nanog@nanog.org <javascript:;>> Subject: April fools joke?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-17576745
It's sad when you just can't tell with things like this..
-- Leigh
Re visit of the stuff that was thrown out about 3 years when raised by Labour govmt and berated by the present govemt when they were in opposition Home Office and others want it but most businesses don't and the civil liberties guys are quite against it - requirement on any online or comms provider to keep logs for ages! Martin -- -- Martin Hepworth Oxford, UK
On 1 Apr 2012, at 15:30, Justin Wilson wrote:
I hate April 1 on the Web. You are right you never can tell. I would be appalled if someone as respectable as the BBC stoops to downright dumb pranks.
It is true. It's called the Communications Capabilities Development Programme (CCDP) and is comprehensively discussed at the OpenRightsGroup* wiki: http://wiki.openrightsgroup.org/wiki/Communications_Capabilities_Development... ...and somewhat less comprehensively at: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communications_Capabilities_Development_Program... See also ZDNet from February, in case you think it's still an April 1st joke: http://www.zdnet.co.uk/news/security-threats/2012/02/20/isps-kept-in-dark-ab... - alec -- * disclosure: I help out with ORG in an unpaid capacity
On Sun, Apr 1, 2012 at 3:54 PM, Alec Muffett <alec.muffett@gmail.com> wrote:
On 1 Apr 2012, at 15:30, Justin Wilson wrote:
I hate April 1 on the Web. You are right you never can tell. I would be appalled if someone as respectable as the BBC stoops to downright dumb pranks.
It is true.
It's called the Communications Capabilities Development Programme (CCDP)
More details (from a fairly level-headed viewpoint) have been published at http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/04/02/ccdp_government_snooping_plans/. It looks like for more details we'll have to wait for the Queen's Speech on the 9th of May (and the following white / command papers and other guff) when it looks like she'll announce it with all the other legislation her government will try to pass over the next year. Alex
From: Leigh Porter Sent: Sunday, April 01, 2012 3:46 AM To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: April fools joke?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-17576745
It's sad when you just can't tell with things like this..
-- Leigh
I was hoping for something good, like maybe an extension of RFC 1149 implementing ECN (aka SQUAWK) in avian carriers. I'm disappointed.
It's sad when you just can't tell with things like this..
I was hoping for something good, like maybe an extension of RFC 1149 implementing ECN (aka SQUAWK) in avian carriers. I'm disappointed.
ECN doesn't help if the Hunting Season bit is set. --- () ascii ribbon campaign against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org
"Keith Medcalf" wrote: {prior attributions lost}
It's sad when you just can't tell with things like this..
I was hoping for something good, like maybe an extension of RFC 1149 implementing ECN (aka SQUAWK) in avian carriers. I'm disappointed.
ECN doesn't help if the Hunting Season bit is set.
That's a situation where you *want* Bugs in the project. "Wabbit Season!"
On 2 April 2012 06:56, Robert Bonomi <bonomi@mail.r-bonomi.com> wrote:
"Keith Medcalf" wrote: {prior attributions lost}
It's sad when you just can't tell with things like this..
I was hoping for something good, like maybe an extension of RFC 1149 implementing ECN (aka SQUAWK) in avian carriers. I'm disappointed.
ECN doesn't help if the Hunting Season bit is set.
That's a situation where you *want* Bugs in the project.
"Wabbit Season!"
Joke is on then. I make all my terrorist talking in Counter-Strike. Since the game packets are not logued, nothing is logued. And we use a special language so a possible spy would not understand us. 1. "OMFG! It's a deagle train! Camp for your life!" 2. "W00T kill #7 Total deagle-train!" 3. "Why don't you use that M4 you have?" 2. "Because I'm deagle-training n00b!" Logging emails: - 100% false positives: log data from everyone not evil - 100% missed messages: don't log data from evil people The very definition of useless. Probably another "feel good", "look how we combat the evuuul" politics. -- -- ℱin del ℳensaje.
On 2 April 2012 13:40, Tei <oscar.vives@gmail.com> wrote:
On 2 April 2012 06:56, Robert Bonomi <bonomi@mail.r-bonomi.com> wrote:
"Keith Medcalf" wrote: {prior attributions lost}
It's sad when you just can't tell with things like this..
I was hoping for something good, like maybe an extension of RFC 1149 implementing ECN (aka SQUAWK) in avian carriers. I'm disappointed.
ECN doesn't help if the Hunting Season bit is set.
That's a situation where you *want* Bugs in the project.
"Wabbit Season!"
Joke is on then.
I make all my terrorist talking in Counter-Strike. Since the game packets are not logued, nothing is logued. And we use a special language so a possible spy would not understand us.
1. "OMFG! It's a deagle train! Camp for your life!"
Oops. sorry, seems will use deep packet inspection for games. I suppose the trigger for wen the terrorist say "we have setup the bomb" will trigger a few hundreds of times per minute. :-/ -- -- ℱin del ℳensaje.
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From: "Tei" <oscar.vives@gmail.com>
Oops. sorry, seems will use deep packet inspection for games.
I suppose the trigger for wen the terrorist say "we have setup the bomb" will trigger a few hundreds of times per minute. :-/
"Somebody set up us the bomb." (Though in general use, "set us up" is more commonly heard.) Cheers, -- jra -- Jay R. Ashworth Baylink jra@baylink.com Designer The Things I Think RFC 2100 Ashworth & Associates http://baylink.pitas.com 2000 Land Rover DII St Petersburg FL USA http://photo.imageinc.us +1 727 647 1274
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Alec Muffett
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Alex Brooks
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chris
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George Bonser
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Jay Ashworth
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Justin Wilson
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Keith Medcalf
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Leigh Porter
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Martin Hepworth
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Robert Bonomi
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Tei