Looks like maybe Sprint and Cogent are experiencing communications difficulties in the DC (and probably other) areas. Theories include a potential depeering. ... JG -- Joe Greco - sol.net Network Services - Milwaukee, WI - http://www.sol.net "We call it the 'one bite at the apple' rule. Give me one chance [and] then I won't contact you again." - Direct Marketing Ass'n position on e-mail spam(CNN) With 24 million small businesses in the US alone, that's way too many apples.
On 10/30/08, Patrick W. Gilmore <patrick@ianai.net> wrote:
On Oct 30, 2008, at 6:08 PM, Joe Greco wrote:
Looks like maybe Sprint and Cogent are experiencing communications
difficulties in the DC (and probably other) areas. Theories include a potential depeering.
Not a theory.
Indeed. It appears, using Sprint's looking glass, that they're completely partitioned from Cogent. YMMV. -brandon -- Brandon Galbraith Voice: 630.400.6992 Email: brandon.galbraith@gmail.com
http://www.earthtimes.org/articles/show/sprint-nextel-severs-its-internet-co... Brandon Galbraith wrote:
On 10/30/08, Patrick W. Gilmore <patrick@ianai.net> wrote:
On Oct 30, 2008, at 6:08 PM, Joe Greco wrote:
Looks like maybe Sprint and Cogent are experiencing communications
difficulties in the DC (and probably other) areas. Theories include a potential depeering.
Not a theory.
Indeed. It appears, using Sprint's looking glass, that they're completely partitioned from Cogent. YMMV.
-brandon
-- Paul R Fleming Lead Network Administrator Dimenoc Inc Cell - (407)-267-0227 Office - (407)-756-1126 ext 3001
On 10/30/08, Paul Fleming <paul.f@hostdime.com> wrote:
http://www.earthtimes.org/articles/show/sprint-nextel-severs-its-internet-co...
The most interesting part of the press release to me is: In the over 1300 on-net locations worldwide where Cogent provides service, Cogent is offering every Sprint-Nextel wireline customer that is unable to connect to Cogent's customers a free 100 megabit per second connection to the Internet for as long as Sprint continues to keep this partitioning of the Internet in place. Unfortunately, there is no way that Cogent can do the same for the wireless customers of Sprint-Nextel. -brandon
The most interesting part of the press release to me is:
In the over 1300 on-net locations worldwide where Cogent provides service, Cogent is offering every Sprint-Nextel wireline customer that is unable to connect to Cogent's customers a free 100 megabit per second connection to the Internet for as long as Sprint continues to keep this partitioning of the Internet in place. Unfortunately, there is no way that Cogent can do the same for the wireless customers of Sprint-Nextel.
This wasn't the first time Cogent offered something similar. They did the same thing when Level3 depeered them. Randy
On Oct 30, 2008, at 6:08 PM, Joe Greco wrote:
Looks like maybe Sprint and Cogent are experiencing communications difficulties in the DC (and probably other) areas. Theories include a potential depeering.
I am seeing issues Cogent -> Sprint at Tyco Road, Tysons Corner VA. arin_whois 206.159.101.241 Sprint SPRINT-W (NET-206-159-0-0-1) 206.159.0.0 - 206.159.255.255 Sprint com FON-34665525765801 (NET-206-159-101-0-1) 206.159.101.0 - 206.159.101.255 ping 206.159.101.241 PING 206.159.101.241 (206.159.101.241) from 63.105.122.7 : 56(84) bytes of data. From 63.105.122.1: Destination Host Unreachable From 63.105.122.1: Destination Host Unreachable show ip bgp 206.159.101.241 % Network not in table It was there as recently as Noon EDT : grep 206.159.101.0 bgp.full* bgp.full.Oct_30_00:07:00_EST_2008:*> 206.159.101.0 38.101.161.116 62050 0 174 1239 6157 i bgp.full.Oct_30_06:07:00_EST_2008:*> 206.159.101.0 38.101.161.116 62050 0 174 1239 6157 i bgp.full.Oct_30_12:07:00_EST_2008:*> 206.159.101.0 38.101.161.116 62050 0 174 1239 6157 i Regards Marshall
... JG -- Joe Greco - sol.net Network Services - Milwaukee, WI - http://www.sol.net "We call it the 'one bite at the apple' rule. Give me one chance [and] then I won't contact you again." - Direct Marketing Ass'n position on e- mail spam(CNN) With 24 million small businesses in the US alone, that's way too many apples.
Looks like maybe Sprint and Cogent are experiencing communications difficulties in the DC (and probably other) areas. Theories include a potential depeering.
I am seeing issues Cogent -> Sprint at Tyco Road, Tysons Corner VA. .......... ....... ..
show ip bgp 206.159.101.241 % Network not in table
It was there as recently as Noon EDT :
grep 206.159.101.0 bgp.full* bgp.full.Oct_30_00:07:00_EST_2008:*> 206.159.101.0 38.101.161.116 62050 0 174 1239 6157 i bgp.full.Oct_30_06:07:00_EST_2008:*> 206.159.101.0 38.101.161.116 62050 0 174 1239 6157 i bgp.full.Oct_30_12:07:00_EST_2008:*> 206.159.101.0 38.101.161.116 62050 0 174 1239 6157 i
All my traffic to Sprint is not being trasported over Cogent backbone here in Central Europe. Regards Michal
I wonder if judicious use of 6to4 and Teredo would allow an IPv6 (single homed) user to access now missing parts of the Internet. Me thinks, yes. Deepak Joe Greco wrote:
Looks like maybe Sprint and Cogent are experiencing communications difficulties in the DC (and probably other) areas. Theories include a potential depeering.
... JG
On Oct 30, 2008, at 6:55 PM, Deepak Jain wrote:
I wonder if judicious use of 6to4 and Teredo would allow an IPv6 (single homed) user to access now missing parts of the Internet. Me thinks, yes.
So would some "CGN" (Carrier Grade Nat anyone) too. Last I knew Cogent wasn't doing any IPv6.. has that changed? - Jared
On 10/30/08, Jared Mauch <jared@puck.nether.net> wrote:
On Oct 30, 2008, at 6:55 PM, Deepak Jain wrote:
I wonder if judicious use of 6to4 and Teredo would allow an IPv6 (single
homed) user to access now missing parts of the Internet. Me thinks, yes.
So would some "CGN" (Carrier Grade Nat anyone) too.
Last I knew Cogent wasn't doing any IPv6.. has that changed?
- Jared
Not that I know of. We tried to get IPv6 transit from Cogent several months ago (we already have IPv4 transit), and were told it's not available yet. -brandon -- Brandon Galbraith Voice: 630.400.6992 Email: brandon.galbraith@gmail.com
Brandon Galbraith wrote:
Not that I know of. We tried to get IPv6 transit from Cogent several months ago (we already have IPv4 transit), and were told it's not available yet.
What a shame. It's extremely miserable, but Sprint has a 6to4 at least. No clue what they have beyond that. It's been a big motivator for us peering native IPv6 so we can push our customers away from that death trap. Yeah, we can tunnel, but most tunnel peers seem low band. Jack
On Thu, 30 Oct 2008, Brandon Galbraith wrote:
On 10/30/08, Jared Mauch <jared@puck.nether.net> wrote:
On Oct 30, 2008, at 6:55 PM, Deepak Jain wrote:
I wonder if judicious use of 6to4 and Teredo would allow an IPv6 (single
homed) user to access now missing parts of the Internet. Me thinks, yes.
So would some "CGN" (Carrier Grade Nat anyone) too.
Last I knew Cogent wasn't doing any IPv6.. has that changed?
- Jared
Not that I know of. We tried to get IPv6 transit from Cogent several months ago (we already have IPv4 transit), and were told it's not available yet.
Did they provide you with a roadmap ? :-) ./Carlos
-brandon
-- Brandon Galbraith Voice: 630.400.6992 Email: brandon.galbraith@gmail.com
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