Re: Coverage of the .to internet outage
--- jra@baylink.com wrote: From: "Jay R. Ashworth" <jra@baylink.com> This piece: https://www.npr.org/2022/01/18/1073863310/an-undersea-cable-fault-could-cut-... drills down to this piece with slightly more detail: https://www.reuters.com/markets/funds/undersea-cable-fault-could-cut-off-ton... I'm told their national carrier is trying to bring in a ground station as well, though not whom it will connect to. -------------------------------------------------------------- It's hard to imagine they don't have a lot of Kacific Terminals or other satellite connectivity there. That's what most of the South Pacific uses and all used before the cables were laid. Maybe the journalists missed that like they miss things when talking about our stuff? scott
If you're a small pacific island nation state with a limited budget, and a working submarine cable, maintaining a SCPC geostationary satellite service that might be $20,000 a month (on 36-60 month term) in transponder kHz may seem like a very large ongoing expense. Ideally it would be possible to keep a backup circuit operating in a very narrow section of kHz during normal times. Along with the contractual ability to significantly expand it on demand, but more capacity on the same satellite/same polarity without physical reconfiguration of the remote end earth station may not always be possible. On Wed, 19 Jan 2022 at 15:50, Scott Weeks <surfer@mauigateway.com> wrote:
--- jra@baylink.com wrote: From: "Jay R. Ashworth" <jra@baylink.com>
This piece:
https://www.npr.org/2022/01/18/1073863310/an-undersea-cable-fault-could-cut-...
drills down to this piece with slightly more detail:
https://www.reuters.com/markets/funds/undersea-cable-fault-could-cut-off-ton...
I'm told their national carrier is trying to bring in a ground station as well, though not whom it will connect to. --------------------------------------------------------------
It's hard to imagine they don't have a lot of Kacific Terminals or other satellite connectivity there.
That's what most of the South Pacific uses and all used before the cables were laid. Maybe the journalists missed that like they miss things when talking about our stuff?
scott
On Thu, Jan 20, 2022 at 10:21 AM Eric Kuhnke <eric.kuhnke@gmail.com> wrote:
If you're a small pacific island nation state with a limited budget, and a working submarine cable, maintaining a SCPC geostationary satellite service that might be $20,000 a month (on 36-60 month term) in transponder kHz may seem like a very large ongoing expense.
Redundancy seems like it could be covered by increasing the cost of a .to domain. DNS for .to domains seems to be working just fine, but whois lookups for .to domains fail with a timeout. -A
It appears that Aaron C. de Bruyn via NANOG <aaron@heyaaron.com> said:
If you're a small pacific island nation state with a limited budget, and a working submarine cable, maintaining a SCPC geostationary satellite service that might be $20,000 a month (on 36-60 month term) in transponder kHz may seem like a very large ongoing expense.
Redundancy seems like it could be covered by increasing the cost of a .to domain.
I think you vastly overestimate how much money there is in domain registrations if your name is not Verisign or Godaddy.
DNS for .to domains seems to be working just fine, but whois lookups for .to domains fail with a timeout.
Well, sure, the DNS has mirrors all over the place: $ host -t ns to. to name server frankfurt.tonic.to. to name server singapore.tonic.to. to name server colo.tonic.to. to name server tonic.to. to name server sydney.tonic.to. to name server newyork.tonic.to. to name server helsinki.tonic.to. Dunno why WHOIS would fail since traceroutes say the WHOIS server is in California. R's, John
From: "Jay R. Ashworth" <jra@baylink.com> This piece: https://www.npr.org/2022/01/18/1073863310/an-undersea-cable-fault-could-cut-... drills down to this piece with slightly more detail: https://www.reuters.com/markets/funds/undersea-cable-fault-could-cut-off-ton... I'm told their national carrier is trying to bring in a ground station as well, though not whom it will connect to. -------------------------------------------------------------- On Wed, 19 Jan 2022 at 15:50, Scott Weeks <surfer@mauigateway.com> wrote: It's hard to imagine they don't have a lot of Kacific Terminals or other satellite connectivity there. That's what most of the South Pacific uses and all used before the cables were laid. Maybe the journalists missed that like they miss things when talking about our stuff? ----------------------------------------------------------- On 1/20/2022 8:18 AM, Eric Kuhnke wrote:
If you're a small pacific island nation state with a limited budget, and a working submarine cable, maintaining a SCPC geostationary satellite service that might be $20,000 a month (on 36-60 month term) in transponder kHz may seem like a very large ongoing expense.
Ideally it would be possible to keep a backup circuit operating in a very narrow section of kHz during normal times. Along with the contractual ability to significantly expand it on demand, but more capacity on the same satellite/same polarity without physical reconfiguration of the remote end earth station may not always be possible. ---------------------------------------------------
Digicel just got them back online via sat: https://www.zdnet.com/article/digicel-reconnects-tongan-users-via-satellite-... Digicel reconnects Tongan users via satellite to rest of the world "Telco handing out free SIMs to let people reconnect." "Digicel said on Wednesday night it successfully re-established international communication with its Tongan network thanks to a satellite link." "A preliminary technical fault investigation has established that there are two separate undersea cable breaks. The first between TCL cable landing station Sopu, Tongatapu, and FINTEL cable landing station in Suva, Fiji," Digicel said. "The international cable break is approximately 37km offshore from Tonga. The second cable break is on the domestic cable which is near the area of the recent volcanic activity." scott
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