Re: New Class C's just lit on on AT&T, Email Marketing
It was mentioned that this might be offtopic for this list, however I did want to get a feel for the attitudes of network operators, in light of the recent discussions regarding the Russian Operators.. and blocking routing et al.. At what point does it become an issue to the point where operators demand that others are responsible for the activiities coming from their networks? Wanted to start a thread on this issue.. It was mentioned that not routing operators who are puported to be owned/operated/supported by criminal activities, in conjunction with the Russian IP's, and the controversy on the Hurricane Electric actions.. I think this is on topic.. However, if others think it isn't I will not post to this subject here further... I do know that there is a lot of chatter on this list, so I fully understand if it needs to be kept for strictly technical problems, rather than discussions. -- Michael -- On November 3, 2009, you wrote:
Hi,
This really is not on topic for NANOG at all (unless you want to hear people whine about calling it a 'class c' instead of the /23 it is, etc etc) but it probably *is* on topic for the mailop list. I would suggest setting followups to this message accordingly with nanog not included.
On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 11:32 AM, Michael Peddemors
<michael@linuxmagic.com> wrote:
A new block under AT&T, listed as being owned by:
The Karcher Group Inc. ATTIS-9951800 (NET-99-51-80-0-1) 99.51.80.0 - 99.51.81.255
Just started an email marketing campaign to addresses stripped from the web..
We wouldn't run out of IP's if this didn't keep happening..
So called CAN-SPAM compliant of course..
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On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 11:54 AM, Michael Peddemors <michael@linuxmagic.com> wrote:
It was mentioned that this might be offtopic for this list, however I did want to get a feel for the attitudes of network operators, in light of the recent discussions regarding the Russian Operators.. and blocking routing et al..
At what point does it become an issue to the point where operators demand that others are responsible for the activiities coming from their networks?
I think this is fairly much off topic, but.. I'd say this: 1) did you send in proper complaints to att/Sbc for the activity you allege comes from this ip block? 2) did you get back an auto-ack? 3) did this activity start prior to today? (looking at the headers in the original post) If so, then I'm sure ATT will do the right thing in the next little while... they can't turn off (for a variety of reasons) a customer that seems may have been 'ok' for 7 months time (judging by the reg-date for the block in question) with only a single complaint/event. Complaining about this on nanog-l certainly won't get any of your concerns about this SBCIS customer addressed though. -Chris (note I don't see in my personal spamtraps content from this address range)
On Tue, Nov 03, 2009 at 12:34:37PM -0500, Christopher Morrow wrote:
3) did this activity start prior to today? (looking at the headers in the original post)
e-mail spam from 99.51.80.0/23 starting 04/15/2009, and from 99.51.84.0/24 starting 09/21/2009. -- Henry Yen Aegis Information Systems, Inc. Senior Systems Programmer Hicksville, New York
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